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    martinhutch
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    That cash giveaway is a clear federal election crime. I’m continually surprised at how toothless the authorities are in these situations.

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    Del
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    One theory is that there isn’t really any downside for musk and those like him. Nation states have largely been unwilling to sanction these guys in any meaningful way, playing up to the right gets those who are in that mindset frothing and it’s easy to bring more of them in. More engagement, more clicks, more ad revenue. The tech bros have long lived by the ‘move fast and break things’ mantra and now they’re applying it to the fabric of society.

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    thols2
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    cant quite work out what is in it for him?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2024/10/donald-trump-is-elon-musks-trojan-horse/680309/

    In Elon Musk’s vision of human history, Donald Trump is the singularity. If Musk can propel Trump back to the White House, it will mark the moment that his own superintelligence merges with the most powerful apparatus on the planet, the American government—not to mention the business opportunity of the century.

    Many other titans of Silicon Valley have tethered themselves to Trump. But Musk is the one poised to live out the ultimate techno-authoritarian fantasy. With his influence, he stands to capture the state, not just to enrich himself. His entanglement with Trump will be an Ayn Rand novel sprung to life, because Trump has explicitly invited Musk into the government to play the role of the master engineer, who redesigns the American state—and therefore American life—in his own image.

    Poopscoop
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    ^^ Pretty chilling assessment there.

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    mattyfez
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    ^ Very scary….

    Also cant quite work out what is in it for him?

    Gotta be some huge tax breaks in it for him too…

    thols2
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    Gotta be some huge tax breaks in it for him too…

    And government contracts, plus relief from the import tariffs that seem to be Trump’s answer to every problem.

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    MSP
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    Billionaires are a separate superpower now, working against the benefit of wider society. They will probably create a greater negative influence on the lives of working people in the west than either China or Russia.

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    gravedigger
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    Some good stuff on the latest Thunderfoot Musk video – like the link to DOGE :

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    dyna-ti
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    Trump is fickle and really not to be trusted even by his confidants.

    In fact most of them over the years have ended up in criminal or civil court crying how they were misled.

    mattyfez
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    In fact most of them over the years have ended up in criminal or civil court crying how they were misled.

    What’s that saying about dancing with the devil?!  😉

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    argee
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    I don’t think Musk cares about money that much, he knows what he has and he’s after power these days, Trump for all his faults is an easy read compared to Musk, and all he wants these days is to be president again, but then probably spend more time on the golf course than the white house, leaving others to make decisions, just be thankful Musk can’t run for president!

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    greyspoke
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    What’s that saying about dancing with the devil?!

    Use a long handled spoon

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    funkmasterp
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    I don’t think Musk cares about money that much

    Probably pretty easy when you’ve got all of it to be fair. Him getting power would not be good. He’s an egotistical man child and all round despicable human being. Even his own kids don’t like him.

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    Poopscoop
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    Even his own kids don’t like him.

    One of many things I dont get about him. Id be dedicating every spare moment I have to improve relations with my children. What else really matters, they are our only real legacy in life.

    For all his money, he’ll be in a hospital one day as the end of his time nears, contemplating his achievements and regrets, the same as we all will. All the money and influence in the world wouldn’t make up for leaving this world knowing my own children couldn’t stand me.

    All that money and an obvious talent to inspire innovation and he’s chosen the path he has. I just find it hard to comprehend.

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    funkmasterp
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    It is really easy to comprehend Poop. The man’s a total ****.

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    Northwind
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    mattyfez
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    What’s that saying about dancing with the devil?!

    “Going with the flow, it’s all a game to me?”

    Mat
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    I’ve just read that Elon Musk has just made a large automotive acquisition, I can’t find it on any news pages I know to be reputable (I don’t want to propagate links to the stuff I’ve read). Is it real and just super hot off the press or are there games being played with ‘fake news’?

    Looking at it more, it’s an albanian news website I think, and the associated photo looks like it’s probably fake.

    Caher
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    Musk senior is on Newsnight tonight.

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    funkmasterp
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    Musk senior? How? Elon is a malfunctioning cyborg created from a vague description of Tom Cruise or John Barrowman. Surely you mean his creator.

    sirromj
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    He’s just a nice person trying to make sure we can escape to other planets in the event of an extinction level event. lolololol

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    CountZero
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    One of many things I dont get about him. Id be dedicating every spare moment I have to improve relations with my children. What else really matters, they are our only real legacy in life.

    He doesn’t care, his legacy is all of the tech that he’s been building, which will forever be associated with him – compared to that, children really don’t matter. He’s got an ego the size of a Jovian moon, like Diaper Don, and all that’s important is themselves and what they can accrue in money and power. That’s what being a narcissist is all about.

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    thepodge
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    What’s betting that NASA is incredibly inefficient & all their problems can be solved by transferring the government contracts to Space X?

    Same with all vehicle related purchasing, if I was Ford or GMC or whoever & I had a contract to supply to local or national law enforcement etc I’d not be banking on that getting renewed because Tesla are suddenly going to be a far “better” choice.

    Poopscoop
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    ^^ He’s just an average hard working, self mafe man looking out for the little guy.

    He’s an obvious choice to get rid of he elites holding the country back. Stands to reason

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    CountZero
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    What’s betting that NASA is incredibly inefficient & all their problems can be solved by transferring the government contracts to Space X?

    There was already talk that Dementia Don would be defunding NASA along with the EPA, FBI and many of the civil service agencies as soon as he gets the power to do so. And as for JFK Jr in charge of health, as a committed vax denier the funeral business could be looking to expand its operations.

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    Daffy
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    There was already talk that Dementia Don would be defunding NASA along

    Never. Going. To. Happen.  There are way too many NASA centres in States all over the US for them to even think about getting it through congress, even with a majority in both houses.  So many of their own senators and congressmen wouldn’t allow it.  Those NASA centres are hubs of technical innovation.  Aviation and tech startups all begin on the same grounds.

    People at NASA are every bit as clever as those at SpaceX, they just have a lot more plates spinning and arguably less time and effort to put into each one.  And no matter what Musk states, he’s got to remember DARPA (P-Falcon) and NASA (CRS) foresight allowed for the creation and expansion of SpaceX.

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    BoardinBob
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    The year is 2237

    The Musk-Yutani deep space mining ship, Nostromo, awakes the crew from their cryo sleep after the ship receives a distress call from a nearby planet

    vinnyeh
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    Never. Going. To. Happen.  There are way too many NASA centres  cost-plus pork contracts supplying jobs in States all over the US for state senators to even think about getting it through congress, even with a majority in both houses.

    FTFY

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