Ninfan London’s recent murder rate ie 2017 was way lower than new York s , recent as in total 2018 is lower than new York’s only if you cherry pick February and March do you get marginally heigher ie by 1 and 4 deaths respectively , even then you are talking homicide not murder rate and NYC don’t count infantacide or manslaughter by gross negligence in their figures and London does . If you look at trends london is flattish New York is coming down .

For Deviant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44029055

Im not sure who looks more sad, our foreign secretary Borris Johnson who’s reduced to pleading with Trump on Fox & Friends not to trash the Iran nuclear deal.

Or Trump who only gets his information on world events from the trashiest of TV shows

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44026548

I think its as someone said – cops see too many scumbags and the results of their actions – makes for a black view and scumbag intolerance

I’ve got a close mate who’s a senior copper and he’s gone the other way, I think the damage Theresa May has inflicted on the police service has driven him into the arms of Corbyn! (It’s also coat him his marriage and plenty of grey hairs)

I think its as someone said

<Waves> ‘‘Twas I.

makes for a black view and scumbag intolerance

Worse than that, they can start to think that scumbags are disproportionately common. Especially in the geographical areas that they frequent. Often as a result being guilty of tarring whole areas/races/social classes with the same broad brush, and it’s not right, or defensible. Eh, Deviant?

He’s managing some quite long words tonight. Maybe he really is bigly a genius?

Er . . . no.

I am likely to get banned if I use the words that are in mind about him now.

Just unbelievable

The bloated orange tugnugget must really want his very own war, i doubt sensible discussion with the european backers of the deal will make a difference over the next 30 days as Netanyahu is stroking trumps dick under the table

When you’re looking for calm, objective and rational analysis of Iran, surely your first port of call would be Netanyahu.

It’d be perfectly ok to ignore what everyone else has to say on the subject, and just take what he says at face value

it certainly looks like that’s what’s happened.

oh well….

it certainly looks like that’s what’s happened.

probably in conjunction with huge wedge of cash under the table from the house of saud

can’t be trusted

Unpick everything Obama did, undo anything good, destablaise as that is where you make money…

The sooner he becomes unpalatable to the Republicans the better

Nothing to see here, move along…

So what would you do to stop your wife thinking you were shagging a porn star?

I’m now wondering why Alaska looks like a flaccid penis pointing at the Aussies.

Can someone explain to me any senario, no matter how wild, where Iran could use a nuclear weapon against another state (any state) and still be in existance a week later? MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) is still just as valid today as it was during the heyday of the Cold War.  (which never actually became a war precisely because of MAD!)

Owning a Nuclear weapon only grants you a seat at the big boys discussion table, that’s all (see N/Korea for reference…..)

it’s trying to keep the genie in the bottle, if Iran has them, Turkey and the Saudis will want them and the Israelis will want more just to make sure…. if Turkey and the Sauds have them Egypt will want to join the club and Israel gets very nervous indeed. Then we have to keep track of who’s got what where and whether it’s safe or not.

Rouhani: I have ordered Atomic Energy Organisation of Iran to be ready to start the enrichment of uranium at industrial levels. We will wait a few weeks and speak with our allies and those committed to JCPOA. All depends on our national interests.

Well who would have thought it would go this way?

it gets stranger by the minute, EU saying they are going to stand by the agreement and the US threatening anyone who deals with Iran….

I imagine that Israel will be moving on Hezbollah in Syria & Lebanon in days, wonder what the Russians will make of it?

At least Kim now knows that Trump could year up any nuclear deal on a whim

Also makes Johnsons fox & friends plea look, even more desperate

Without wishing to draw attention to specifics, some of the posts on this thread over the weekend have been downright depressing.

Im still trying to get my head around what is going on with America’s foreign, economic and environmental policy. To blame a buffoonish president is too simplistic, nothing happens by accident.

Since John Bolton took office, foreign policy has become more hawkish than at anytime I can recall.

Im still trying to get my head around what is going on with America’s foreign, economic and environmental policy. To blame a buffoonish president is too simplistic, nothing happens by accident.

No but it happens by direction, if he isn’t in charge then somebody is pulling the strings to make things unstable. Sooner it ends the better for the world.

John Bolton has been there 6 weeks….

Im still trying to get my head around what is going on with America’s foreign, economic and environmental policy

In an interview with Fox news (who else) when asked why he hadn’t appointed very key state dept posts (there’s still no South Korean Ambassador) Trump said that when it comes to foreign policy, “I’m the only one that matters”

Mcmaster often complained (former head of NSC) that while there was on the face of it, “a process” regarding decision making, it appeared that there were two parallel tracks, the inter agency process and the decisions Trumps makes, it was often not clear Trump was making decision with reference to that process.

You go through the list of appointments; Bolton, DeVoss, Pruitt et al and it’s clear that this administration is quite extraordinary in the context of Republican governments that have gone before. We get mired in debates about Trump’s nocturnal tweets, it’s clear that the Republican Party itself is at the mercy of fringe politics.

Whether its donors pulling the strings or whether the Tea Party movement has exerted influence beyond its grassroots membership is open to debate.

Whether its donors pulling the strings or whether the Tea Party movement has exerted influence beyond its grassroots membership is open to debate.

Neither have control over Trump….

Good listens from the US
https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510310/npr-politics-podcast

https://fivethirtyeight.com/tag/politics-podcast/

Thing is PMJ1974 the “never Trump” elements of the republican party will never work in the administration, the left are repulseR by the foreign policy decisions, and even the Bannonite Far right disdain them for being insufficiently extreme, which leaves republican hawkish nut bars unpalatable to everyone. The only saving grace is that while Trump demands loyalty, he rarely rewards it, so at least Bolton will be out of a job soon.

Trump really is one load his mother should of swallowed

Firm Tied to Russian Oligarch Made Payments to Michael Cohen https://nyti.ms/2KODExU

Just follow the money….

Yep but no collusion…

It’s pretty damming wouldnt like to explain myself out of that one.

One payment maybe but theres a few more to answer for , telephone bill refund maybe 🙂

Now if Trump had just paid up out of his own money we wouldn’t be looking at this.

He’s a total tightwad….

Don’t forget truth doesn’t matter to his base thou..

Did he really use a magic marker to sign that declaration??

It’s pretty damming wouldnt like to explain myself out of that one.

https://www.theonion.com/my-god-i-ve-discovered-the-missing-link-in-the-russia-1823923525

I know Im in danger of sounding like a breitbart evil jewish soros conspiracy nutter, it does seem that Netanyahu has figured out how to play Trump better than anyone else!

Either that or Trumps weird Obama inferiority complex really is driving everything he does

Trump has an answer to negative news reports about him, ie ‘fake news’; take away the credentials of any news network responsible, making it impossible for their reporters to travel as part of his entourage!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-muses-about-yanking-news-media-credentials-in-response-to-negative-coverage/2018/05/09/746c2918-52a6-11e8-a551-5b648abe29ef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.089fe8b7d359

Honestly, he’s no different to Putin, both are autocratic with exceedingly thin skins.

And now Iran has attacked Israel from Syria

This is going to escalate

Welll Iran atacked Isreal according to Isreal, looks like just another excuse for Isreal to strike at Iran while the iron is hot, under the pretense of retaliation..

but hey ho, death is just the symptom of the petulant orange bafoons desperate need for attention.

To be pedantic the Golan Heights is recognised as Israeli occupied Syrian land taken from Syria

@ninfan

Not really interested in the collusion, I think thats a side issue, I’m  interested in the fact these people seem to have money thrown at them in massive wads.

Must be good to be them and I’d like to join the club 🙂

Meanwhile Trump is basking in the glory of participating in a carefully planned PR/negotiating exercise by the North Koreans. I wonder at what point he’ll realise he is being played to perfection.

Will they really give up their nukes after watching what happened to Gaddafi and now Iran?

The decision on Iran has so many interesting parallels with the Bush decision to walk away from the North Korea nuclear deal, which led to the situation we’re in now – the same issue a decade or more later, only with a much more developed nuclear capacity, forcing the US back to the negotiating table.

Good to hear that the Saudis are now talking about getting their own nuclear capability. 🙁