David Icke at Wembley last Saturday

JHJ, why do you think the members of the purple circle are being so blatant about showing off their membership these days? It’s almost as if being so obvious, that people miss it. Why not just stay secret? Are they foreshadowing something that is about to be revealed?

And it’s everywhere isn’t it. The H of Commons symbolism is so in your face it’s incredible. Amazing stuff.

doubtless bore and confuse the uninitiated.

Wow half right you are upping your average with that post.

Your failure to comprehend is not my failure to provide information.

Your arrogance does you no service – its almost religious in its zeal and certainty. Not one person on this thread has been convinced you have provided evidence let alone won the argument. …it like you cannot comprehend the data . you are so ignorant you dont even realise you are ignorant and think you are correct. I pity you tbh

I don’t think you do Mike…do some of you even get out on your bikes?

Well your stalking is still a bit half arsed. I’m guessing this is another one of your clever jokes there Chris. As for posting a fair bit other side of the world and the timings are coinciding with me finished it project off and sitting in airports. Bike has to wait until Sunday next week.

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I don’t think you do Mike…do some of you even get out on your bikes?

Well your stalking is still a bit half arsed. I’m guessing this is another one of your clever jokes there Chris. As for posting a fair bit other side of the world and the timings are coinciding with me finished it project off and sitting in airports. Bike has to wait until Sunday next week.
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Stalking?? Eh….please don’t flatter yourself sunshine..

thats fine then, I’ll go back to my club sandwich and beer then. Not really sure what your running joke is but at least it’s a change from JH’s repetitive BS and referring it all back to the pyramid.

Cougar – Moderator

You haven’t “given anyone any bricks”, you’ve had someone on the Internet tell you what a brick looks like once, and in your head you’ve now got a mental image of a three foot high pineapple. You then claim to have the architect’s design for the house, but won’t show anyone because it’s obvious.

Hurrah for this post!

Blimey, you lot have been busy.

Can’t help but feel that this is the kind of groupthink that those who erroneously thought the earth was flat would’ve displayed when the clever dudes who had amassed sufficient reference points to declare the earth was round first presented their theory.

My apologies for challenging what you’ve been led to believe, but I haven’t been the one telling fibs…

Seem to recall not so long ago there was a guy on here (not me) who said that some time before the Jimmy Savile story broke, he had presented similar ‘conspiracy theories’ surrounding ‘Sir’ Savile and received similar ridicule.

You may have noticed though, I’m a persistent bugger.

Whether or not I can be assed to amass sufficient information to shake your world view is very much going to depend on you, as individuals.

Whether or not I can be assed to amass sufficient information to shake your world view is very much going to depend on you, as individuals.

People keep asking for information to support your little stories.

And you’ve consistently failed to “be assed” to provide anything at all.

So I’m going to put my money on you shaking precisely zero world views. Ever.

You may have noticed though, I’m a persistent bugger.

So’s herpese and shingles; and both are just as irritating.

My apologies for challenging what you’ve been led to believe, but I haven’t been the one telling fibs…

Maybe not in your pocket universe, and how do you know what I’ve been led to believe?
I’m a born sceptic, brought up to enquire, question, and to be open to new, proven evidence challenging pre-conceived ideas about anything that’s been thought to be true, without swallowing a load of garbage churned out by the basement conspiracists.

So’s herpese and shingles; and both are just as irritating.

What is the basis of your irritation?

Do you know why it is that this makes you tickle sooo bad?

You may have noticed though, I’m a persistent bugger.

Not at all – in fact I’ve noticed the complete opposite, ie, when you are asked to explain a point which you appear to be making you very often drop the point, never explain it, and never repeat it.

As an example two days ago I asked you to explain this comment which you had made :

Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame)

You never explained the significance of having an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline fame, and you never repeated the comment, you just quickly dropped it when you realised that you couldn’t explain what point you were trying to make.

I wouldn’t call that being persistent, I would call it being inconsistent.

What is the basis of your irritation?

Why don’t you ask everyone else on this thread? Do your own research.

Do you know why it is that this makes you tickle sooo bad?

Eh? Is English not your first language? I think the word you’re looking for is itch.
Again, do your own research; ask everyone else on here, or just have a quick shufti at posts by Cougar, et al.
I’m off to have a shower and stick a pizza in the oven, and catch up on some telly.
Have fun. 😛

“My apologies for challenging what you’ve been led to believe, “
Problem is you haven’t actually challenged anything . You present old news as if it is some secret you have discovered then try to randomly thread disparate facts into an overarching narrative with no actual use of logic or reason then refuse to show your working.
Why would mi5 seek to black mail MPs with pedophilia for example. If the mp needed to be controlled why not secure the election of a biddable candidate or remove the problem MP by broaching his sexual preference publicly . How fortunate for MI5 that the MPs they need to contoll are pedophiles a statistically small group. Do mi5 identify paedos and manipulate their lives and the democratic process to make them want to be MPs then get them elected so that they can then blackmail them and control Parliament?
Sorce for your mi5 badge seems odd that a secret dept that was not officially acknowledged to exist and had no name just known by it’s old door number had an official badge.?

As an example two days ago I asked you to explain this comment which you had made :

Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame)

You never explained the significance of having an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline fame, and you never repeated the comment, you just quickly dropped it when you realised that you couldn’t explain what point you were trying to make.

I wouldn’t call that being persistent, I would call it being inconsistent.

Strangely, many of my questions remain unanswered, perhaps you are electing yourself as the spokesperson for the groupthink?

Or are you acting as an individual?

Either way, let’s lighten this up a bit;

I know, lets play tennis; that was a pretty aggressive serve, but I got ya…

There are allegations that Esther Rantzen is herself involved, having been named as participating in abuse, some say Childline is a front organization to ensure victims of any high ranking/well known figures are not seen by professionals outside the ‘purple circle’.

Personally, I’m not convinced by these allegations by any stretch of the imagination at this point, but I keep it in mind should further information arise.

OK, here’s my volley:

Why did the last pope resign?

Because he was 87 which is very old. Age is particualy a problem when trying to lead an internecine feuding mob with dark secrets . His replacement hardly fits with a lizard paedo conspiracy does he ? Or was he on Jim Will Fix It too?

Lizards!! ***king Lizards!!

Are you nuts?

I appreciate this is a David Icke thread, but maybe we have a major misunderstanding prevailing here.

I never said a damn thing about lizards, that is bonkers!!

Personally, I’m not convinced by these allegations

So when confronted by the obvious stupidity of this comment :

Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame)[/b]

You respond (after initially trying to completely ignore it) with :

“Personally, I’m not convinced by these allegations”

And you want to be seen as a “persistent bugger” ?

You are weak and inconsistent.

So when confronted by the obvious stupidity of this comment :

Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame)

You respond (after initially trying to completely ignore it) with :

“Personally, I’m not convinced by these allegations”

And you want to be seen as a “persistent bugger” ?

You are weak and inconsistent.

You have not answered the question presented, do you want me to draw attention to the flaws that obviously highlights, or do you want to be a big brave boy and have a go at meeting your own standards?

I never said a damn thing about lizards, that is bonkers!!

How narrow minded of you, are you scared of the truth ? Open your mind and do the research.

Tell you what sweetie, be a doll and have a look into it yourself would you, I’m a bit tied up with the very real and extensive phenomenon of child abusers in positions of power if you hadn’t noticed.

Thanks xxx

😛

Now, if you could live up to the expectations you have of others and answer the question I asked, you might regain my respect.

Gosh, you really are spectacularly immature.

Or possibly a very mature ten year old.

You have not answered the question presented,

Yeah, we’re following your example.

Fire away Cougar, if you have a question, I’ll do my best to answer it…

ernie is on the naughty step

Tell us what you were getting at with MKUltra, with reference to my earlier post.

Tell us why you believe the pope resigned.

Tell us about how “child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite” as you’ve been asked about repeatedly.

No skirting the issue, no “do your research,” no “it’s too complicated,” no posing further unrelated questions. Tell us directly or I’m closing the thread.

You can do that, yes?

Chapeau Ernie

Have you not got it jivehoneyjive? We, here on this forum, are the controlling elite. You have been hoodwinked into contributing so we can learn about you. You will be receiving a visit shortly. Oh hang on, I almost believed myself then.

That’s a lot of questions; you must think I’m some kind of Genie…

I have mentioned some of this information before, but since I have everyone’s attention, I’ll give it a go

Tell us directly or I’m closing the thread.

(cough) powertrip (cough)

Anyhooooo, jokes aside.

MK-ULTRA Has been linked to several cases of severe child abuse in the U.S. most notably, the Franklin Scandal, which involved several prominent people, sourcing kids from Boystown, a community set up by a Catholic Priest to care for children. Some of the victims allege to have been taken into the Whitehouse, as well as to Bohemian Grove.

There is a huge amount of information to trawl through to try and find out just where the truth is, but the most telling points for me are that one of the victims, Paul Bonacci, was awarded $1,000,000 in damages. Nonetheless, no prosecutions were pursued in relation to abuse.

please take the time to watch this; a documentary which was produced by Yorkshire television in collaboration with Discovery Channel:

Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.

At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who ordered all copies destroyed.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available.

Of course, if you’re too lazy to spend an hour which may leave you in a state of disbelief and shock, you could just google:

Paul Bonacci Larry King Lawsuit

This case brings together the CIA (MK-ULTRA), the Church and High Level Politicians

Of course, that is in the U.S. not the UK, but the strange thing is, there is a remarkable number of similar cases all over the world.

Most notable among these is Casa Pia in Portugal, as the abusers were successfully prosecuted:

As I’ve said though, this is an international phenomenon, both throughout mainland Europe, the U.S., Australia and Canada.

Mentioning Canada, we come to former Reverend Kevin Annett, who makes a good case for exposing industrial scale abuse:

I have to admit, given some of Rev Annett’s more recent claims, I’m skeptical, but going by the testimonies in the video above, coupled with stories too extensive to include in this reply, I’m prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

He alleges that the reason Pope Ratzinger quit is due to not only covering up, but also direct involvement in sadistic child abuse.

Coming back to the U.K. we all know momentum is growing ever since Tom Watson’s speech in 2012:

2 inappropriate inquiry chairs so far suggest the current government may not be quite so eager to investigate as their PR would have you believe.

I do have a huge amount of information regarding the U.K. situation and have no doubt in my mind there has been (and very possibly still is) a very wide ranging nationwide network involving a number of prominent names.

For legal reasons, I can’t divulge all my information at the moment, but I have been working with a number of parties, from victims, to careworkers, to MPs, to get to the bottom of matters.

Hopefully that goes some way to answering all the questions… obviously, you have to put the time in and judge for yourself.

For legal reasons, I can’t divulge all my information at the moment, but I have been working with a number of parties, from victims, to careworkers, to MPs, to get to the bottom of matters.

Wow I take it all back. Be careful though, those careworkers and MPs might be in on it.

For legal reasons, I can’t divulge all my information at the moment, but I have been working with a number of parties, from victims, to careworkers, to MPs, to get to the bottom of matters.

Wow, folks! We are truly in the presence of greatness!
Got to be one of the most outstanding investigative reporters of our time, I think we’ve really underestimated JHJ!

Aye, that always happens

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Do you know why it is that this makes you tickle sooo bad?

Are we talking about the conspiracy theories or the herpes?

Are we talking about the conspiracy theories or the herpes?

You may scoff but where do you think that herpes originates from ?

Yes that’s right – reptiles. Herpes in rife among reptiles and having sex and breeding with them was always going to carry obvious risks.

Now I’m not going to tell you any more because I’ve probably already told you more than I should but do your own research and google “Iguanid Herpesvirus”. Better still try googling “Jimmy Savile + Iguanid Herpesvirus”. He was riddled with it. Probably.

I just looked at the first point,

MK-ULTRA Has been linked to several cases of severe child abuse in the U.S. most notably, the Franklin Scandal,

I’d not heard of this, so I googled it. Typing “franklin scandal” into Google auto-suggests “franklin scandal hoax” and “franklin scandal debunked” as alternative searches. This is what Wikipedia has to say,

After investigation, a grand jury in Douglas County (of which Omaha, Nebraska is the largest city and county seat) determined the abuse allegations were baseless, describing them as a “carefully crafted hoax” and indicted two of the accusers on perjury charges.[4] The grand jury also suggested that the abuse stories originated from a vindictive employee terminated by Boys Town, the famed refuge for troubled youths.[4] Later, a federal grand jury concluded that the abuse allegations were unfounded and indicted 21-year-old Alisha Owen, an alleged victim, on eight counts of perjury. The same grand jury also indicted multiple officers of the credit union, including King, for crimes related to the embezzlement of funds from the credit union.[4][5] Alisha Owen served 4-1/2 years in prison

So, that’s bollocks for a start.

The next one I looked at was your Conspiracy of Silence. Wikipedia again, their first line is,

The Conspiracy of Silence is a documentary TV film that was broadcast three times on PBS in the United States in 1995 and 1996.

… which would seem inconsistent with your implication that it was pulled and the assertion that it was destroyed. I can find any number of sites claiming it was pulled, but as far as I can gather (and I can’t be certain), this is an urban myth.

This case brings together the CIA (MK-ULTRA), the Church and High Level Politicians

Assuming for a moment that the Franklin stuff is true, I’m not seeing any links anywhere to either MKUltra or the Church. Did you just make that up?

He alleges that the reason Pope Ratzinger quit is due to not only covering up, but also direct involvement in sadistic child abuse.

Hardly evidence is it, one person’s allegations. Plenty of people allege things all the time – just look in a mirror – doesn’t mean they’re true. Doesn’t mean they aren’t either of course.

Further digging,

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/popebenedict.asp

The source of these rumors was uncorroborated material posted to the web site of International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS), which as far as we have been able to ascertain is not actually an international tribunal at all but simply a blog maintained maintained by a single person (Kevin D. Annett).
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/popebenedict.asp#i5fb2IKMS0uKHU3u.99

What else have we got? Ah,

Coming back to the U.K. we all know momentum is growing ever since Tom Watson’s speech in 2012:

Well, I hold Tom Watson in high regard, so there may actually be some truth in this (assuming that you haven’t completely misrepresented what’s been said). I’m not about to watch an hour-long parliament feed when I’m at work though.

well they would say that cougar, thats how a cover up works (or something like that) once conspiracy is declared any evidence to disprove it is just proof it exists to some people.

Well, I hold Tom Watson in high regard, so there may actually be some truth in this (assuming that you haven’t completely misrepresented what’s been said). I’m not about to watch an hour-long parliament feed when I’m at work though.

You have immediately debunked yourself there I’m afraid… check the video and try again.

Let’s take a look at this point:

The next one I looked at was your Conspiracy of Silence. Wikipedia again, their first line is,

The Conspiracy of Silence is a documentary TV film that was broadcast three times on PBS in the United States in 1995 and 1996.

… which would seem inconsistent with your implication that it was pulled and the assertion that it was destroyed. I can find any number of sites claiming it was pulled, but as far as I can gather (and I can’t be certain), this is an urban myth.

Reading the wikipedia entry, the one screened on PBS is an entirely different documentary, into domestic violence:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conspiracy_of_Silence

So suddenly, your immediate knee jerk reaction to it being bollocks is in question; many parties have suggested there is a cover up, the likelihood of which is only intensified by the censoring of the documentary.

Disinfomation is an essential part of cover up, especially when we have the internet to give us access to a wealth of information…

As an example of that, do you honestly believe there is no evidence of Genocide in Canada? It’s certainly not widely publicized and of course brushed under the carpet by the Church and Government, but that doesn’t remove the facts.

Kevin Annett is certainly not acting alone: you only have to watch the video to see he is widely engaged with a large community of victims of horrendous abuse, but you didn’t watch the video, did you? You leapt to conclusions.

As to where the CIA and the Church fit into the Franklin Scandal, a number of victims were involved in the MK-ULTRA experiments, including witnessing abuse and murder. Boystown, who was supplying children, was set up by the Catholic Church.

Of course, The Catholic church is also linked to Casa Pia and the Canadian residential schools, not to mention a vast catalogue of abuse the world over.

Disinfomation is an essential part of cover up, especially when we have the internet to give us access to a wealth of information…

there you have it Ladies and Gentlemen, the conspiracy theorists’ “get out of goal free card…”

You have immediately debunked yourself there I’m afraid

What, by being at work?

Reading the wikipedia entry, the one screened on PBS is an entirely different documentary

Fair enough. Point still stands though, as far as I can gather from the ten minutes research I had time for this morning, it appears to be widely debunked.

you didn’t watch the video, did you?

No, of course I didn’t, because I have neither the time nor the inclination right now to sit through four hours of video footage.

What, by being at work?

It’s a minute long video… but you didn’t take the time to look, because you’d already made your mind up.

it appears to be widely debunked.

By whom?

Do you know who is responsible for debunking it?

This is basically a David and Goliath scenario; as can be seen by the fact that they had the power to pull the documentary, given the people involved, do you believe there wouldn’t be plenty of resources ploughed into discrediting the testimony of victims?

Can I just check, is this the Franklin Scandal hoax MK-Ultra, the CIA and the Church were linked to, or is there some other Franklin Scandal? You see I’m a bit confused by you using a case where the supposed victim has been shown to be lying as proof of a conspiracy by anybody.

Or are you claiming that the successful prosecution for perjury was part of the conspiracy?

It’s a minute long video

So it is. I misread the running time, mia culpa.

By whom?

Do you know who is responsible for debunking it?

given the people involved, do you believe there wouldn’t be plenty of resources ploughed into discrediting the testimony of victims?

You mean, there might be a conspiracy?

It’s possible I suppose, but then, many things are.