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  • kimbers
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    jambalaya – Member
    £ figure Kmbers

    Very hard to determine, recent figures. Secrecy and all that
    Was 50 million a year in 2011 and 2010
    They are considered a ‘Priority Customer’ by our government and I can only imagine what we’ve sold them since the war on ISIS really got going

    Erdogan is very popular at home.
    He pleases the working class with his religious conservatism and the middle class take it begrudgingly because the economy is doing well and income for rich and poor has dramatically increased under Erdogan, lots of new infrastructure to

    ernie_lynch
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    I wasn’t correcting you fin25, coups tend not to be very nice, by definition they have suppress opposition. I have no idea what the intentions of those behind this latest coup is, I guess we will soon find out.

    jambalaya
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    1980 is a long time ago.

    Seem’s like yesterday to me 😉

    @fin yes Sky speaking about how military is very much against Turkey becoming a more Islamist country which they felt Erdogan was trying to do

    northshoreniall
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    Sat in thessaloniki currently feeling very glad we booked direct flights rather than same as previous via Istanbul!

    wrecker
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    Early reports of Erdogan having been arrested.

    pondo
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    Sat in thessaloniki currently feeling very glad we booked direct flights rather than same as previous via Istanbul!

    All the best, amigo.

    ernie_lynch
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    kimbers – Member

    2nd largest army in NATO after the USA

    One of the ways you appease a military with a long history of staging coup d’etats is to give them everything they want. It’s a dangerous strategy though.

    Another strategy is to make them very weak by denying them special status and cutting their budgets, which is a strategy employed in recent times by Argentine civilian governments.

    kimbers
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    I’ll bet Liam Fox had them near the top of the list for his first trade visit
    At least he’s still got his Sri Lankan contacts though

    Klunk
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    how did no one get wind of such a huge operation ! Note to next turkish president make sure your spies are upto the job !

    Klunk
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    oops

    Newspaper Hurriyet

    UPDATE: Erdo?an is expected to make a statement

    seems to be back up in a very limited form.

    nope back to service unavailable 😯

    wrecker
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    jambalaya
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    Erdogen has fled the country in his private jet apparently

    rmacattack
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    flightradar24, lots of air traffic circling around istanbul

    jambalaya
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    @kimbers it must be more than £50m a year, we do that with Israel. Saudi is $4bn I believe

    Klunk
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    that news paper site is up and down like a yoyo but the front page came up for a few moments and in the most popular items to the right 2nd item was “Six major problems ahead of Turkey in 2016”, coup d’etat wasnt on the list 😯

    jambalaya
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    Klunk 🙂

    Ramc I don’t see too much circling and all airports are shut. Imwouod think with F16’s airborne commercial traffic would get the F out of there. Have many friends due fo fly home from Antalya tomorrow

    Edit: just watching two flights landing at Antalya. Nothing at Istanbul Landing at Istanbull too, nothing taking off

    teamhurtmore
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    So who is leading this – kemalists or fundamentalists?

    Lazgoat
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    Crappers, we’re meant to transit through Istanbul Ataturk next week! I really, really hope this doesn’t end in bloodshed.

    Rockape63
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    Yeah, I’ve got friends in Calcan currently. 🙁

    ernie_lynch
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    I don’t think there’s many fundamentalists in the Turkish army.

    Lazgoat
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    Jeez, didn’t know Facebook Live could do this! https://www.facebook.com/livemap/

    wrecker
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    Erdogan in airplane, refused landing at #Istanbul, now trying to seek asylum in Germany, US defense officials say,

    Nothing like a bit of confidence!

    ernie_lynch
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    Erdogan signed this 2 days ago.

    http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/turkey/240620161

    The law was passed late on Thursday and will make it significantly more difficult for alleged rights abuses to be properly investigated. Furthermore the permission of the military and political leadership of Turkey will be needed before any soldier can face prosecution.

    Critics have said this undermines civilian oversight over the military.

    jambalaya
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    Jeez, didn’t know Facebook Live could do this

    @lazy there are plenty of things we don’t know facebook can do 😐

    Klunk
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    this could turn very nasty, lots of people coming out on the streets going by that facebook live page!

    jambalaya
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    @ernie general view is that the Army is more secular and democratic than Erdogen

    ninfan
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    Nothing like a bit of confidence!

    I did have to laugh at the very confident statements that he was 100% definitely still in control of the country… being delivered over FaceTime

    oldnpastit
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    And they said history had finished with the end of the cold war….

    Lazgoat
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    Watching FB Live is crazy! Reports of an explosion in Ankarra now.

    hora
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    Bye Dictator

    jambalaya
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    Looting has begun allegedly, chaos.

    EU minister has said Turkish soldiers should disobey orders. So there you have it, EU intervenes and job done 😀

    kimbers
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    Erdogan has told his supporters to come on the streets and resist.

    He is popular, could be very bloody

    mikey74
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    EU minister has said Turkish soldiers should disobey orders. So there you have it, EU intervenes and job done

    Wow! That’s low, even for you. Nice time to try and make political gain 🙄

    ernie_lynch
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    jambalaya – Member

    @ernie general view is that the Army is more secular and democratic than Erdogen

    I’m not sure why you’re telling me that – have I claimed that Erdogan is a great secular democrat?

    We will have to wait and see how committed to democracy the new junta is though, if they succeed of course.

    wrecker
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    Bill oddies everywhere apparently. Rozzers outgunned. Footage of Heli gunships have opening up. Navy clearing the ports. Not looking great for Erdo.

    “A change in power there would have global ramifications.”

    Fox news on point as usual 🙂

    seosamh77
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    mental , just seen a boy on my facebook talking about jets flying by his windows, asking what the hells happning, that was an hour or so ago, so i guess some communications may be down now. why i popped on here and turned the news on. hope this doesn’t amount to too much, talk of bombs and gunfire though on the news.

    kimbers
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    This is the movement thought b to be behind the coup

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/09/turkish-police-fethullah-gulen-network

    Moderate anti corruption cleric. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethullah_Gülen

    hora
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    No he WAS popular post-before he stayed on in power and became less moderate. Welcome to state TV and EU idiot thinking. Anyone with brains will know how controlled state media was.

    Sadly now it might be bloody still

    seosamh77
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    It’s alright, he’s found a bottle of drambuie! 😆

    grahamt1980
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    This isn’t going to end well. Reports of demonstrations and mosques asking for people to protest on the streets.
    Only going to take one nervous person with a gun and it’s going to go south in a hurry

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