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  • Taff
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    My brother in law bought a Giant bike a while back for a couple of hundred quid and he had 28-42 tooth chain rings up front and he wanted to put some bigger rings on it. Because they were fixed I bought some new FSA cranks from CRC, square taper. Now I've gone to put them on and no matter how tight I tighten the cranks they won't sit far enough back on the taper. Im' going to try and find some old botom brackets for a comparison but I'm pretty sure that square tapers are one size only. Has any one come across this before.

    real_ben10
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    Usually different axle lengths for different chainsets on square taper.

    Taff
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    But the size if the taper shouldn't vary though should it. The other option is to get a shorter b/b as it was quite long anyway but trying to work out what's wrong with the current one

    PeterPoddy
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    Yes!!!!!

    Just had EXATCTLY this problem!!

    Refit the original cranks fully, and measure the distance the outer ring is from a fixed point on the frame with an accurate method. I used a steel rule

    Fit the new cranks again and measure the same thing.

    Double the difference (remember it's a bit both sides) and order a BB that is that much shorter in the axle, or a bit less

    A cheap BB is only about £8 on CRC and you don't have an option really….,

    neilsonwheels
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    I had a similar problem with a Saracen years ago. Right from day one I could not get it to drop into the granny ring properly. It was a right faf. Swapped the chain set over to Deore and it shifted perfectly. There was a big difference between the two chain sets.

    PeterPoddy
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    It's true. Chainsets have different chainlines. Well cheap SqT ones do anyway!

    My bike came with a Suntour crank. To get the FSA one I bought to fit with the rings in the same place I had to go from a 122mm axle to a 113mm. That's 4.5mm difference a side. And that's enough to make the front mech unable to shift to the big ring

    Reluctant
    Free Member

    Cheapo chainset was likely running on a 122 or even 125mm bb. Your FSA is probably gonna want a 113mm. Square taper bbs vary,roughly from 103mm to 130mm – needs to be right.

    alexonabike
    Full Member

    There are two standards of taper – JIS and ISO. make sure you have the right taper for the bb/cranks.

    Taff
    Free Member

    hmmmf, I knew the bb length would come into play. These cranks were suntours and gone to FSA. Will have a measure tomorrow and get a new b/b. The drivetrain is going to be better than the bike itself!

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