Car drivers – what is your problem?

Show me then. I never intentionally lie or embellish the truth and am confident the two accounts broadly match.

Read the first page and skipped the middle, am a biker so always move over when i spot them coming, am also a van driver so do use my wing mirrors a fair deal, lots of motorists don’t they use the rear view so often are just ignorant, as to the tossers who pull out to try and stop you, my best advice? Carry a hammer strapped to the tank, give them a couple of taps as you go by, they’ll soon learn.

🙄 another Arnie on his motorbike

Yep that is great advice. There are some Grade A Cocks on here sometimes.

Inbred456 – Member

So its up to me to make sure i’m not being undertaken by a motor bike at speed down the middle of the road. Hmmm you may be right, still i’m in a car so i’ll be allright. If only we could all be as good as you TJ. Motor bikes are incredibly hard to see on the near side when they are weaving through traffic. Mirror signal manouver is not fast enough when a bike is coming through. Maybe we should change the law and just give motorbikes right of way regardless.
I am absolutely staggered that you would actually post such a thing. How is it not fast enough? Or is it that you do a cursory non-attentive glance in the general direction of your inside mirror and then join thousands of other car drivers in the “I…. I… I just didn’t see him” mantra?

I’m not defending idiots on a speed trip, wheelies from traffic light to traffic light, but there’s nothing wrong with sensible filtering. Using your car to assert your opinion that there is just identifies you as an A-grade bell-end. I bet you froth at the mouth and drive halfway across the two lanes the minute you see a “2 lanes to 1 in 800 yards” sign as well.

The only filtering I have seen has been mental filtering at speed on a motorway and I swear I could see a little guardian angel flying behind the motorcyclists concerned.

you want crazy filtering….

here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShacMAn_HK8

Been riding motorbikes for 7 years now. And i used to get really serious road rage with Car driver due to the filtering episodes and the SMIDSY’s but now the attitude of everyone is out to knock you off and try to block your progress. I just let them get on with it. If someone blocks me while filtering, i will wait till i can eventually get passed and not even acknowledge its bothered me.

One thing i can’t stand, tail gating. Really what is the point? Why tailgate me when there’s a big line of cars ahead. Once the speed limit increases they are left for dead.

And the reason Ghostrider has never been successfully unmasked is because Ghostrider gets smeared under the wheels of an artic every week.

What is a SMIDSY?

you want crazy filtering….

here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShacMAn_HK8

That has nothing on this

Edit: You have to watch it all

SMIDSY – Sorry mate i didn’t see you. Roughly translated to. Sorry pal i wasn’t looking because i was to preoccupied in my own little world to be arsed about you.

Most car drivers are cocks, they’re the same cocks who’ll turn left and have you off you’re push-bike, not that i ride that much on the road, but when i do, i guarantee there will have to be a wing kicking incident at least once during an average week of commuting..

Van truck & UK HGV driverson the other hand are generally more bike aware, i say UK because round here we get a lot of deaths from Continental HGV vehicle incidents.. (The M20 is where the Channel Tunnel kicks out and I swear everyone in South East Kent knows of someone killed by a continental truck, I reckon they almost kill as many as cancer, I swear to God.

As to you motorists preventing bike filtering i do fail to see your problem with it.

you want crazy filtering….

here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShacMAn_HK8

That has nothing on this

Edit: You have to watch it all
Pffft. Amateurs. Howdya like these olives?

my last road rage incident was due to me pottering past a line of traffic to the front of a que at some lights. Pulled away and the cock in the car thrashed the shit out of his people carrier to stay along side me, it was only a 20mph limit so I couldnt really just leave him behind so I slowed to go behind. So he slowed too, so I gave it a quick blip and moved in front of him. By this point we had pretty much reached the next lights and this bloke was shouting all kinds of abuse at me so I stopped and stepped up to his window. Apparently I should “**** well wait like everyone else has to” and even better he was going to “**** run me over”. At this to my eternal shame I reached in his window took his keys and threw them away. It all ended with a bit of a scuffle and the driver of the car behind pulling the bloke away and telling him he was driving like a cock. The worrying thing was the blokle must have been in his 50’s and I really dont think he could see where his keys were lying on the footpath.

Most people dont seem to mind filtering but as the OP said some pull over and some get really quite angry. My rule of thumb is to keep below 20mph if going past stationary traffic and not to let the differential go above 20mph.

The Flying Ox – Member

And the reason Ghostrider has never been successfully unmasked is because Ghostrider gets smeared under the wheels of an artic every week.

Well that’s certainly well informed. Neither a secret identity, nor dead.

More fool you if you think your so called *facts* will get in the way of my blind, uneducated rantings.

Filtering would appear to be some sort of euphemism for a motorcyclist risking loads by trying to ride significantly quicker between the traffic on the road he/she is riding on.

All it takes is SWDNSY (someone who did not see you) changing lane and BANG!

The only filtering I have seen has been mental filtering at speed on a motorway

Do you not do much driving, or just do it with your eyes shut?

Most car drivers are cocks, … i guarantee there will have to be a wing kicking incident at least once during an average week

You know, you’re not doing much to support your case.

Ho hum – Member

Filtering would appear to be some sort of euphemism for a motorcyclist risking loads by trying to ride significantly quicker between the traffic on the road he/she is riding on.

No filtering is a legitimate and legal procedure in stationary or slow moving traffic. You can fail your motorcycle test for not doing it

Cougar – Member
Do you not do much driving, or just do it with your eyes shut?

I drive plenty chap.

I was just commenting on my experience.

No need for the cheekiness.

TJ – as I have just replied to Cougar I am just commenting on my experience. For some reason I don’t see many bikers on the roads I am on (that’s because they filter so quickly past me 😉 kidding)

No need for the cheekiness.

I don’t mean to be cheeky; just, well, it’s got to be one or the other, or you have a particularly atypical demographic of riders around you. Or you’re telling porkies, I suppose, but I assumed not.

Did you find that original thread yet TJ? Ready to prove me wrong in your wild accusations yet?

The Flying Ox – Member

More fool you if you think your so called *facts* will get in the way of my blind, uneducated rantings.

Well played 🙂

Cougar – Member
Well, it’s got to be one or the other, or you have a particularly atypical demographic of riders around you. Or you’re telling porkies, I suppose, but I assumed not.

The only time I have seen motorcyclists filtering has been on the M8 in and out of Edinburgh at rush hour during the winter when the traffic is doing 50/60mph and filterers are doing at least 20mph+ more than that.

They may have a deathwish or think themselves superhuman, but I must admit to being startled by their riding (and I check my mirrors regularly).

Atypical, maybe, maybe not?

Cougar – Member

You know, you’re not doing much to support your case.

What you saying? I don’t have a case? Car drivers are not cocks?

Don’t ever take up riding a powered bike chum, you’ll not live long.

Been riding bikes for more years than I care to remember, best advice I offer anyone, ride em like you’re invisible, because for the most part you are, cock car drivers use peripheral vision so much and it doesn’t recognised bike shapes as a threat to their paint work or the sanctity of their little castle on wheels.

So wether you’re filtering or just riding along you need to expect them to pull out, turn left and cut you off exit a roundabout and take you with them having overtaken you on it.

I recently gave up the bike, one close call too many, it’s too busy and the drivers are too unaware and definitely not bike aware and as to riding a road bike, you couldn’t pay me even if i had ceased with the hetracil.

Just went to the last page I’d read there.. TJ, ta for that helpful and positive comment about me needing to improve my observation skills. I’m not infallible but the fact that I checked all corners, looked at the traffic all round me and was flashed out by someone who made me a space meant I felt fairly secure. For the record I also had a White transit van behind me but I pulled forward enough to have a clear view all round including my shoulder check.
Btw, I’m trained to IAM standards as well as being driver 2 blue light trained so I don’t think my observation skills are so bad that they need improved that much. Sorry if I didn’t jot down a full driving plan and DRA tho..
Typical though, someone on here making a judgement about someone else on the basis of a couple of posts. Sheesh.

Dammit.. Too late to add that I was indicating for ages prior to moving, that’s why I was flashed out..

Mr Ox. I have nothing against sensible filtering. I always give bikes the right of way anyway regardless. Maybe I was stirring the pot by saying ill be allright cos im in a big metal tank, but that is the point. I just wish they would slow down a bit when weaving through traffic. Everyone of my mates bar one who has had an accident on a bike, thankfully nobody that badly hurt was being reckless ie speeding and lost control of the bike, no cars involved.

althepal… You probably realise this but you shouldn’t be assuming anything just because someone flashes you out.

Inbred456 – Member

Everyone of my mates bar one who has had an accident on a bike, thankfully nobody that badly hurt was being reckless ie speeding and lost control of the bike, no cars involved.

Aye, bikers like to think that they’re most at risk from cars but the accident figures show they’re most at risk from themselves.

NW.. Appreciate it was a while ago in the thread but yes, I cycled into the city centre every day a few years ago. Didnt risk filtering very much after someone turned left and knocked me off my bike despite the fact I was slightly in front Of them. They weren’t indicating btw..For the record. I’m not in the habit of blocking anyone, cars, bikes or motorbikes. Why would you think that?
I’ve also had my wingmirror knocked by another car, they stopped and offered to pay for the damage. I thought this was a discussion about bikers tho and how they act on the road.. That’s why I was giving examples of motorbikers behaviour that I’ve experienced. Think we all know theres idiots with bikes, cars and or motorbikes

Nw, was just to give you an idea of how long I’d been indicating.. NOT that I thought it was safe to move because someone else told me to..

Had in incident yesterday with a knob head driver (I was also driving) driving along the outside lane (m25). out of no where this Saab 93 pulls across me making me jump on the brakes. So I gave him a flash, he then swerves towards the central reservation (on purpose) flicking up all the lose debris (he knows what he was doing I could see him smile) end result of 1 new windscreen needed! Missive chip/crack. He then missed the run in to the m3 and had to cut several people up tomget his turning causingsome to swerve wildly.

(needs more capital for a rant I know)

althepal – you still failed to see a motorcycle. Therefore your observation was not up to scratch. the motorcycle was performing a legitimate manoeuvre and you failed to see him nearly pulling into his path.

You also appear not to know that this is a legal and legitimate manoeuvres.

Teh answer as I am sure you are aware as an advanced driver is reflective practice and learn trhe lessons – next time you look for that bike. Thats how we all get better

So you didn’t find it then TJ?

Thank you TJ. Don’t know what I’d do without you sometimes. No, really.
(you just don’t give up do you?)
How do you know the motorbike didn’t swerve out from behind the White van, how do you know what speed he was doing or the weather conditions? Without being there I don’t really see how you can make such a definitive judgement? I get the fact that it should be mirror, signal, manoeuvre too thanks, no need to keep repeating it.
And speaking of repetition, I read it the first time when you said it’s not illegal, since then I haven’t mentioned the legality of it. Although it does seem stupid and extremely dangerous undertaking/filtering folk at speed on the motorway between lanes 2 and 3.

And please, really- please, don’t tell me that the things listed above don’t matter, I’m just trying to point out (again) that you weren’t there so I fail to see how you can be so sure of your judgement?
Anyways, nightshifts done, goodnight and stay safe out there everyone.

althepal – did you see the bike? No. In that case your observation was not sufficient.

its simple logic.

The bike cannot appear from nowhere.