Boris Johnson!

Isn’t saying you’re not running the traditional way of declaring you’re running?

Imo May is the best bet for interim PM

After excoriating The Convict yesterday at the Liaison Committee, Sir Bernard Jenkin has ruled himself out of the leadership contest. He was good on R4 WATO today. the Select Committees seem to be the last and most effective means of holding govt to some form of account. Yesterday was a road crash in slow motion.

Imo May is the best bet for interim PM

She’s very duty-driven. I don’t agree with her policies, but never doubted her probity. What a delicious ending that would be.

I agree that it should be her, for the same reasons… but it won’t be. It needs to be someone the Brexit at all cost MPs will support to avoid battles over what they do in office while the leadership selection process plays out.

Isn’t saying you’re not running the traditional way of declaring you’re running?

Gove must be smart enough to know he wouldn’t win – as stated above he’s very talented but polling booth Kryptonite. Raab might fancy his chances but doesn’t have the charisma or momentum to win.

Yeah, both might still have a pop at it, but it’ll probably be quicker to list the Tory MPs who aren’t considering it at the mo.

Yes, Gove might be a good shout for an interim PM, in purely pragmatic terms.

At the time May took over, I did not doubt she was a terrible PM, even more so that Brown. This latest episode has truly re-defined that word for me.

Oddly, I think that she would be a generally decent person to act as a temporary PM until a new one can be found and I say that without irony (given that she is a Conservative).

I don’t think Raab has been after it for a while now. When Johnson was AWOL due to Covid you could see the weight on him… he didn’t look like he enjoyed it or was comfortable with it.

May would be ideal, given the pool available… but you’re not thinking like the 2019 intake of Conservative MPs.

Raab just doesn’t want to have to run the risk of anyone looking too closely and nding the bodies he’s hidden in the walls, Fred West style

Yes, I rather like BoJo to stay

I’m with chewkw on this – to maximise damage to the Tory party.

My world view is against sanctions which affect fuel and world grain

You’re also happy for Putin to trample over `Ukraine.

but you’re not thinking like the 2019 intake of Conservative MPs.

The whole lot will be looking at constituencies more concerned with the cost of a litre of fuel or a tin of beans than much else.
Whoever is picked needs to figure out how to fix that in a way that doesn’t involve laying off lots of people who, in 2019, actually voted blue so suddenly have value.
Even the Brexit loons are more concerned about their pensions and house prices than Brussels.

To coin a phrase “its the economy stupid” only unlike Brexit today its a lot less abstract than 2016&19

May would be ideal, given the pool available… but you’re not thinking like the 2019 intake of Conservative MPs.

I see the obvious intention there … slowly slowly catchy monkey. EU here we come again … round two! LOL!

In a twisted way, Johnson is one of the most honest politicians around.

That speech was him being honest.

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) July 7, 2022

Don’t worry, Lizz Truss is running for PM!

God I hate Twitter.

I’m not celebrating either. Although I wish I believed that it just represented a game of musical chairs.

However far from it representing no change I believe that it will almost certainly represent significant change.

IMO the biggest obstacle which has currently stopped the Tories adopting austerity, a policy very much at the heart of Tory philosophy, has been Johnson. It simply didn’t suit his affable loved-by-the-people personality.

I think Sunak made that clear in his resignation letter. Whether it’s Sunak or somebody else who takes over from Johnson they will in all likelihood be right hard ****.

Johnson has constantly battled the right of the Tory Party, whether it was over taxation/ spending or lockdown restrictions and “covid socialism” as they called it, but never with the left of the party.

Whoever takes over from Johnson it is extremely unlikely that they will be more left-wing than him and extremely probably that they will be significantly more right-wing..

No one knows for sure what the outcome will be but as someone who is considerably to the left of the Tories, and based on probability, I’m not celebrating.

Because whilst making Pincher deputy chief whip was very clearly wrong on so many levels it did not have a significant affect on the lives of ordinary working people. The austerity which we have every reason to believe is likely to come post-johnson will very much so.

Absolutely this. I’ll be sorry to see him go for mainly these reasons, as well as the entertainment factor. Scary to think who might replace him, although the idea of another Labour government is frankly terrifying.

I see the obvious intention there … slowly slowly catchy monkey. EU here we come again … round two! LOL!

itll take a while to repair the damge of Brexit

Johnson destroying himself is a good first step

Ive orderd my beers!

So I’m confused.

Has he officially resigned from being PM and leader of the Conservatives, one of these or none and all he has done is say that he will resign when a successor has been selected? If he’s no longer PM he should be moving out and an interim PM should take over the duties required.

I fear he’s going to try and find a way to style it all out and carry on as if nothing has changed all summer or even possibly find a way to nobble the selection process so that he’s there right up until the next election and leave them no choice but to run with him!

I won’t be celebrating until he’s no longer in residence at No10 and is completely sidelined.

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A very normal day on a very normal island… pic.twitter.com/jQpNJIZqEC

— Best for Britain (@BestForBritain) July 7, 2022

I’ll get behind Penny Mordaunt – as slap downs go this was classic! 🙂

No idea how she votes or what she stands for though. But at least the hair-do will be better than Boris’s!

Ive orderd my beers!

Fitting isn’t it that brewdog are getting a bounce off what was in the first instance a sexual harassment and or assault?

Not just the denizens of Westminster that are hypocrites.

I expect the removal van has been booked.

😀

I just love it when the tories implode.

If he’s no longer PM he should be moving out and an interim PM should take over the duties required.

Traditionally the PM remains in place until the new leader and hence PM is selected.
This worked okay for the tories in the past since it was only a case of asking the MPs and hence it could be done and dusted pretty quickly.
However the rules were changed so first round was the MPs chosing two candidates which the general party then vote on which takes a lot longer (unless as per May the other candidate withdraws and so it doesnt go to the general party).
As with many British political ideas its built around the idea of a good and honest mp who will gracefully wait out the period.

Why are so many other mp’s willing to throw their hats into the ring for pm?

The main requirement for someone standing for that post is a massive ego. Plenty of them have one. Johnson only wanted the job to satisfy his, he was never actually interested in carrying out the duties of PM.

I’m not convinced that the next pm will be able to push more austerity, with the cost of living issues now that level of tolerance is gone and the ex-red wall mps would be bricking it should that happen. Tax rises i can see coming, or at least a substantial change in how tax works

Yep I get that Jamb but they’ve got to squeeze in a bit of feel-good factor before the next election because so much damage has been done to the brand. Usually pay rises are a bit higher towards the end of a period of office, that could happen sooner. With teachers, barristers, NHS workers, the RMT all squaring up plus inflation it would mean an implosion of the party to inflict austerity right now. I sincerely hope I’m right.

A couple of days ago someone on Twitter was discussing a rumour that Boris
a) had a hairdresser (!)
b) who was Canadian and
c) pregnant with a baby Boris back in Canada
Although as far as I could see, no evidence whatsoever was put forward for this, so quite frankly it could just be someone experimenting with how fast fictional rumours travel, workshopping a variety of stories…

To change the subject, May volunteers every year at the Maidenhead 10 on Good Friday, so to that extent at least she does have a genuine public service ethos. When Boris was Henley MP he opened the odd thing near where my OH works, but afaik you would never see him inconveniencing himself to stand on a corner in a hiviz tabard in the cold for hours on end.

It looks like there are plenty of Labour or opposition supporters getting very concerned with the resignation of Conservative BoJo as PM.

Are they really “concerned” or simply try to rub it in? LOL!

Why are so many other mp’s willing to throw their hats into the ring for pm?

Because the chances of getting a job after Westminster are pretty low unless you’re one of the senior members of cabinet at some point.
Ex pm is pretty much a guaranteed lucrative private sector role afterwards if you want it.

Also if Boris could do it it really must be as easy as it was for Jim thacker

Why are so many other mp’s willing to throw their hats into the ring for pm?

Good question that. I can only guess that Power is a very desirable thing to have.

May volunteers every year at the Maidenhead 10 on Good Friday, so to that extent at least she does have a genuine public service ethos

You mean she has a check list?

You mean she has a check list?

So did stalin, I can see several of the candidates to replace bj will too.

I’m not convinced that the next pm will be able to push more austerity, with the cost of living issues now that level of tolerance is gone and the ex-red wall mps would be bricking it should that happen. Tax rises i can see coming, or at least a substantial change in how tax works

Thing is that’s not what the Tory membership want, the opposite in fact, and any new leader needs to appeal to them !

Can we have another sweepstakes? How long he’ll stay an MP. I suspect he’ll sack it off soon, within a year.

Thing is that’s not what the Tory membership want,

What they want, more than anything, is to be in office. Everything else is secondary to a greater or lesser extent because even the most pig thick party member knows you get nothing in opposition

The people that get to decide who the next leader and PM is, are the paid up conservative party members, not the electorate.

The conservative party only has 200,000 members (vs labour 430,000).

Now imagine people who are so tory they pay to be a member of the party. These are the people choosing.

Of course they will have in mind they have to win the next election, but these people are not very representative and will choose someone in their image and who will pander to their wants.

as slap downs go this was classic!

Is that her defending the “VIP lane” for Covid Contracts set up specifically for contacts of Tory politicians, the details of which they tried to keep secret… still she finished with some empty puff about Britain, so she understands the tools of her trade.

You gotta love him

One last grift

EXCL: Boris Johnson and wife Carrie are planning big wedding bash at Chequers within weeks – with sources saying it's part of reason he wants to stay as caretaker. https://t.co/oUSLeGs4Ed

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) July 7, 2022

This will be the third time in five years that we will have a Prime Minister elected by a tiny proportion of the electorate.

Is that her defending the “VIP lane” for Covid Contracts set up specifically for contacts of Tory politicians, the details of which they tried to keep secret

That of tory mps and senior civil servants yup.
The same lane which was found to have significantly worse results than the normal open bidding process.
So only a great slap down if you take the oxford union approach to debates where facts are optional.

This will be the third time in five years that we will have a Prime Minister elected by a tiny proportion of the electorate.

Or, if you want to be honest about it, in the entire history of British democracy.

If the Tories are doing a leadership election in summer, but Boris is insisting on remaining PM until autumn, will that be the first time that the PM is different to the leader of an outright majority party?

Wonder what the next resident of 10 Downing Street will make of the gold wallpaper…