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  • Bladder issues and cycling
  • tpbiker
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    Since about Christmas I’ve been pissing more than more. Experiencing the type of issues that indicate prostate issues, however I’m 43 so that’s unlikely. There is no blood or pain so I assume unlikely to be anything serious.

    What I do notice is that I literally can’t feel my dick after 60-90 min on the turbo. And after a 90 min turbo session yesterday it’s as bad as ever today.

    Anyone else experienced something similar.

    frankconway
    Free Member

    GP.

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    If ever there was a cat aids diagnosis, this is it.

    43 does not rule out prostate.

    tpbiker
    Free Member

    Will be going to the gp but wanted to know if this was something anyone else had experienced.

    Sandwich
    Full Member

    GP and ask for a PSA blood test and a urine dip test. 43 is young but they like that at Urology as it makes a change from the normal wrinkly types that they see.

    It could also be down to poor saddle position, 2 years ago Sandwich Jnr bruised himself quite badly after 150 miles of riding on soft tissues.

    BadlyWiredDog
    Full Member

    What I do notice is that I literally can’t feel my dick after 60-90 min on the turbo. And after a 90 min turbo session yesterday it’s as bad as ever today.

    Plenty of people have suffered numbness from sitting a saddle, particularly on turbos. It could be a badly adjusted saddle. The wrong saddle without a relief channel in the centre. And static trainers are particularly bad because you mostly sit in the same position – rocker plates help with this.

    But go see the doctor. If nothing else, prostatitis, which is the most likely cause, is just really uncomfortable and irritating based on past experience. But I’d look at changing the saddle too, maybe to one with a relief channel running down the middle.

    ogden
    Free Member

    We call that “Dead penis syndrome” in my house 😂, I couldn’t go on the turbo for more than ten minutes without my chap tingling(not in a good way). I ended up changing my saddle but still had to mess around with the saddle position when I’m on the turbo.

    Again GP would be the best bet for the other issues.

    househusband
    Full Member

    Are you thirsty more than previously, lost any weight – pins and needles anywhere..?

    (Above would suggest diabetes but in any case, yeah, GP.)

    tpbiker
    Free Member

    Not more thirsty, really no other symptoms other than feeling i to pee far more regularly.

    I have a gp appointment booked on wed as last week I thought it was becoming a bit of a worry, however the issue has seemed to improve towards the end of the week. Then I go on the turbo and hey presto it’s as bad as ever today. Hence why I reckon there may be a link.

    crikey
    Free Member

    “Dr, I can’t feel my willy after sitting in the same position for 90 minutes!”

    “Go home and stop sitting in the same position for 90 minutes.”

    This is not rocket science, it’s common sense. You need to change your position every 5 minutes or so, using the drops much more, standing, moving about.

    RamseyNeil
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    Looks like you could be in for the dreaded finger up the jaxi at the doctors . Enlarged prostate here , although I am 20 years your senior . Had the option of drugs with many potential side effects or dietry supplements and giving up dairy products which has worked for me . Apart from wanting to go to the toilet often and having a real urgency to go there and then I also had very poor flow and was finding it difficult to hit the toilet as my stream was more like a shotgun than a sniper rifle . Hope it’s just the turbo that’s causing your problem although getting that level of numbness is unusual IME .

    Swirly
    Free Member

    I had the index up the rear to check for something at 40. Better safe than sorry.

    My step-grandfather died as he was too proud to have an ‘intimate’ examination.

    Probably nothing serious of course and plenty of good advice as always already given.

    fossy
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    Potential infection, so GP to make sure.

    linusr
    Full Member

    “Dr, I can’t feel my willy after sitting in the same position for 90 minutes!”

    “Go home and stop sitting in the same position for 90 minutes.”

    This is not rocket science, it’s common sense. You need to change your position every 5 minutes or so, using the drops much more, standing, moving about.

    ^^^ This. Unless you are trying to break the hour record, do the above.

    Poopscoop
    Full Member

    I think you can’t rely on the blood test for prostrate unless you leave off riding for a minimum of 2 weeks. Ditto anal sex if that’s relevant.

    markgraylish
    Free Member

    Point nose of saddle down a little?

    TiRed
    Full Member

    If you’re peeing 20 times a day, it’s a UTI. Been there had the neuropathy from nitrofurontin. Didn’t get the numbness. And never have, even after 12 hrs in a TT position.

    UTIs are rare in men. Prostate and numbness issues are not rare. See a urologist.

    chevychase
    Full Member

    100% change your saddle.

    Sit on your sit bones. Absolutely no numbness allowed, ever.

    Can do 10-12 hour rides and the worst I ever get is sore skin over my sit bones. Friend had same as you – change of saddle.

    In the meantime, also go your GP to ensure you’ve not done permanent damage.

    eskay
    Full Member

    My wife is a urology nurse and people can have prostate issues at your age, get it checked out.

    I use an adamo saddle on the turbo (slightly down at the front) and it is the most comfortable saddle I have ever ridden on a fixed trainer. Having said that, I still need to get out of the saddle every 10 mins or so, it is good practice to start doing that.

    IvanMTB
    Free Member

    GP and ask for a PSA blood test and a urine dip test.

    Just remember to get off the bike for about 7 days. Otherwise your result might be false by 4 fold.

    Just been told by lab that is doing such tests that it is often missed factor.

    Cheers!
    I.

    avdave2
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    Problem with the turbo is it’s very easy to stay in the same position for long periods, something you don’t do when you are actually riding. Exactly the same bike and set up can give problems on the turbo while being perfectly ok for hours on end on the road

    ayjaydoubleyou
    Full Member

    Pedal harder, will reduce the pressure on the nether regions.

    But really, get it checked out, no point suffering in silence until you are the “right age”; and get a new saddle or change the saddle angle.

    tpbiker
    Free Member

    Popping to docs tomorrow. I’ve read a psa test only needs a 48 hr break from cycling but we’ll see what they say.

    I’m slightly more concerned what happens if I get a high result however. Sounds like a biopsy maybe required, and that can require up to 4 weeks off the bike…which would scupper this year’s majorca holiday. Appreciate getting ahead of myself here but dont fancy getting needles up my ass if there isn’t a requirement to do so!

    2 new saddles purchased last night, both with large cut outs.

    globalti
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    Problem with the turbo is it’s very easy to stay in the same position for long periods, something you don’t do when you are actually riding. Exactly the same bike and set up can give problems on the turbo while being perfectly ok for hours on end on the road

    Absolutely this. Out on the road you move around, stand on the pedals, bounce over bumps whereas on the turbo you don’t move at all.

    I have also been seeing the GP, worried about my prostate because I’ve been getting odd symptoms in my groin. My PSA level has risen from 0.3 over the last 15 years to 0.5 and then last month, 0.9. My regular GP just gave me a photocopied NHS leaflet about it and told me to go away and think about it. I thought about it and went back, determined to get to the bottom of my discomfort. However I saw the senior GP at the practice and he told me that 1 – Your PSA level increases naturally as you age and your prostate enlarges. 2 – A PSA test within a couple of days of ejeculation can increase the level. His last words were: “You really don’t need to worry about prostate cancer with readings that low. It has to reach 4.5 before we begin to worry.”

    Then the senior GP started asking more questions about lifestyle. I happened to mention that I was spending more and more time in the car as traffic worsened and that recently, just as I was experiencing the odd tingle in my groin, I also experienced a strong feeling of pins and needles in the soles of both feet. His face lit up and he pulled up a diagram of the nerve supplies to the lower body and showed me that the nerves for the groin join the spine at the same place as the nerves for the legs. Shotly after that a physiotherapist told me that my symptoms were absolutely classic for nerve pressure at the sacro-iliac joint (where the spine is attached to the pelvis).

    So I’ve stopped worrying about my prostate and put the slow stream down to increasing age.

    tpbiker
    Free Member

    Well definitely I’m pissing less today than yesterday…Will see what doc says but going to stay off the bike for a week and see if there is any contonued improvement. I’m convinced that there’s a connection between numbness on turbo and toilet issues.

    fanatic278
    Free Member

    Pro Stealth saddle sorted my peeing issues (urgency and blood). I also saw GP and urologist, which quickly resulted in a camera inserted into my bladder. Will save that story for another day.

    iainc
    Full Member

    You really don’t need to worry about prostate cancer with readings that low. It has to reach 4.5 before we begin to worry.”

    bollox I’m afraid 🙁

    Mine was under 4 when first tested, 6 months later a bit over but still under 5 at which stage i was diagnosed, aged 48, with prostate cancer. More and more cases of folk under 50, which used to be the golden number.

    fairly rapid prostatectomy and all clear 5 years later. I swopped to ISM saddles just before the Op and have them on all the bikes – very comfy, no numbness ever with them.

    globalti
    Free Member

    Were there any symptoms at all?

    zilog6128
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    Problem with the turbo is it’s very easy to stay in the same position for long periods, something you don’t do when you are actually riding.

    This. I try to get out of the saddle often for 30s or so (sprints/hills etc in Zwift) but it’s something I need to consciously do.

    iainc
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    in my case not really, getting up to the loo once per night from mid 40’s, that was all..

    some of the story here :

    https://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/prost-8-riders-aim-high-for-prostate-cancer-uk/

    tpbiker
    Free Member

    getting up to the loo once per night from mid 40’s

    I’ve been getting up to go for a pee every night for years..rarely more than once however. I’m told it’s fairly normal.

    Pro Stealth saddle sorted my peeing issues

    Encouraging to hear your issues were caused by the bike. I have just bought a stealth. Although spending 80 quid on a saddle for a turbo was abit depressing.

    failedengineer
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    @Ramsey Neil – which dietary supplements? I’ve been taking Tamulosin for an enlarged prostate for about 4 years (I’m 64) and suffer side effects. I’m quite keen to avoid the surgery, though, because of the experiences of a couple of friends. Cutting out cheese, though …..

    RamseyNeil
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    I’m sure that there is all sorts of bad info on the WWW about this but I read a booklet from a chap called Ben Ong and a lot of what he said made sense so I cut out dairy which wasn’t difficult for me to do then looked into supplements containing Beta Sitoserol . Prostagenix works for me , it’s not cheap but it’s not as expensive as some and seems to have more of the good stuff in it . IANAD .

    Sandwich
    Full Member

    UTIs are rare in men.

    They can be an indication that there is something wrong with the prostate. I had regular UTI’s and an incidence of kidney infection (that was a bundle of laughs) before my BPA diagnosis.

    I spent 2005 to 20010 with frequent need to pee and poor control as a result of my overlarge prostate. It wasn’t much fun and a little discomfort from a blood test and possible finger test comes highly recommended by me.

    2 days with no sex and bike riding before the test is sufficient for a good reading.

    Good luck and hopefully it’s just(!) prostatitis.

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