But Orange’s are pretty hefty aren’t they? No fun on the climbs surely?
That’s a bit of a myth because the frame looks beasty.
My 2012 five pro weighs pretty much exactly the same as my mate trek fuel ex 9.something… At around 11.5kg so no heavy weight. It climbs better than my cube hardtail too.
It has a few extras that save a bit of weight (hope stainless BB, Hope tech M4s, Fox factory RLC forks, Fox factory rp23 shock, hope headset, maxle rear, easton haven carbon bars, Thomson x4 stem, Gobi xm with magnesium rail) but also has a reverb which adds a bit. The rest is standard five pro so not the lightest spec but still as light as the trek.