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odd that the guy would come to a total halt like that and just let wiggo ride off
( 😉 )
Looks like a fun road to ride on.
I think his heart must've sunk a bit. Brad is barely going any slower than the cars.
I thought he was going to come past a bit quick.
He was indeed "brisk (with a capital F)"!
Why would you film that?
there's being caught by your minute man and then there's .... 😉
Why would you film that?
Because you know there's no way in hell youre gonna hold off a world and Olympic TT champion, and think it'll be interesting? 😕
About the most interesting amateur Go Pro footage I've seen on here!
Puts you right off ever wanting to do a TT
Caught by your minute man inside of five minutes. On any other day you'd hang up your wheels in shame.
Second fastest on the day was 'only two minutes slower' than Sir Bradley. Imagine being able to make that claim.
Then again imagine being Alex Dowset and being able to say you're 28 seconds faster.
38 seconds faster Dowsett`s record is 17.20 .I have ridden that course it is so quick kept it in top 55/11 nearly all the way .
the footage is great! the minute man was interviewed all over at the end of last week, the footage compliments it nicely,
seemingly Wiggins took his foot of the gas with about 1.8km to go, based on approximate split times,
However, I still think there is something not right, as it isn't making sense to me, and I think the key is the section from the bridge to the finish, where as has already been mentioned, he seemed to ride unfeasibly slowly.So we're talking about this segment:
http://app.strava.com/segments/689040
He was apparently timed at 15:27 to the bridge, which is with 1.8km to go, i.e. it's at 14.3km. So he did 55.53kph to that point, vs the comp record pace of 55.73kph.
For that segment, he did 2:31, vs other people at the same event:
Neil Holden 2:32
Adam Robinson 2:34
Duncan Sleigh 2:37
Andrew Disley 2:37It makes no sense that people he was almost 3 minutes faster than would suddenly be as fast as him for that segment unless he stopped trying. If he was nearly 3 mins up on the above people to the bridge, then if he had continued at the same effort, it seems likely he'd have done around 2:10 for that last segment, giving him 17:37. That would be a lot easier to reconcile with the time comparisons I previously posted. So I think he was 0.2kph down on the ave speed he needed to match the comp record at the bridge, could see his average going down rather than up as he battled into the headwind at the end, and stopped trying.
Similar thing happened to me once when I got passed by Chris Boardman off 5 minutes in a 25, the speed differential was depressing.
I used to ride that course a lot and it’s not the most pleasant place to ride, but it is very quick especially if you get a slot when the ferries are unloading. Judging purely from that video the cars and lorries were giving the riders a lot more respect than I seem to remember, helped I'm sure by Wiggo having an outrider.
Excellent video, it really does highlight the speed differential. The rider clearly needs some new wheels or something, it must the equipment you know 😐
That sums up TT'ing for me totally. This should be used in training courses for vehicle users and cyclists alike.
Articulated Trucks doing 60+mph
Cars doing 70+mph
Coaches doing 70+mph
All on a Dual Carriageway with the vehicles in the righthand lane trying desperately to both overtake and keep clear of the cyclists.
One whole lot of "fun"
Not.
I still do not understand why folks do this.
I still do not understand why folks do this.
Because we like to be 'in the arena'.
I still do not understand why folks do this.
IMO TT's on Duel carriageways are safer than TT's on twisty single track A roads. get a bright rear light, and the cars have good visibility of you from along way away. they're only doing 10 / 15 mph more than cars on singletrack A roads, but there are no blind crests, blind corners, etc, and there's plenty of room to overtake.
This is what it looked like from a rear camera:
4:15 is the overtake
I'm sure testers would find it difficult to understand why MTBers will drive for hours in order to bounce round a badly made cycle path 🙂I still do not understand why folks do this.
Running a TT on a dual carriageway makes sense; good visibility, no parked cars, two lanes makes it easier to overtake so you don't get a queue of traffic stuck behind. Plus the drag of overtaking vehicles makes for faster times.
IMO TT's on Duel carriageways are safer than TT's on twisty single track A roads
+1
The only exception to this is that the danger on some DC courses comes from there being fast exit slip roads on the left. The danger then is from drivers miss judging their exit; overtaking your and then cutting immedaitely in front to make the exit. But many of the courses where that hazzard existed were dropped from the schedule.
[i]the footage is great![/i]
If it had been edited to show the last 20 seconds (like iolo is just about to agree). If anyone can watch the whole thing..! 😯 (well, I'll post up some of my commute vids for your entertainment!)
That video would be so much better if it was 15 seconds (the bit when the fast guy goes past) instead of the 7minutes 9 seconds shown.
Edit: as above (slow typing)
the bit when the fast guy goes past
You mean [b]Sir Bradley Wiggins[/b]?
How did they know it was him? Was there anything distinctive about his appearance? 🙂You mean Sir Bradley Wiggins?
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Was there anything distinctive about his appearance?
What you mean other than being fast as f&&k? 😀
There's always one bloke turns up at the local TT with all the gear and the aero wheels and all that. Never any good, it's just the kit that makes them fast.
What you mean other than being fast as f&&k?
Nah, that's Cav
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There's always one bloke turns up at the local TT with all the gear and the aero wheels and all that.
Just one? More like the most people. But so what.
There's always one bloke turns up at the local TT with all the gear and the aero wheels and all that.
I used to do TTs in the mid 90s. The local club's hilly 10 and 25. I didn't own a road bike so used my GT LTS with Specialized Turbo S tyres. Not far from where the above vids were shot. But on the hilly East Yorkshire Wolds, obviously!
+1 for the editing comments. I would also add: they're not quality cameras, just the cheapos I reckon. Awful rotary shutter effects. GoPro or Sony would have been more watchable.
GoPro or Sony would have been more watchable.
GoPro not very aero 😉
[url= http://www.velouk.net/2015/05/17/result-city-rc-hull-10/ ]The full results if anyone's interested[/url]
A member of my old CC was 71st at 24.01
I see there are a load at 55 mins, were these DNS or DNF?
Why would you film that?
If you look around you can find on board footage like that from most TT courses, at least ones they use in open events. And they do get watched too by folk preparing to race on those courses. Can be useful to scope out any features on the course (junctions, roundabouts, etc.) Not often do you see a rainbow jersey though!
Is that wiggo sporting some baggy Lycra on his shorts ^ up there ^ or is it some aero fairing?
his left leg 😀
I agree with you about holding a TT on a Dual Carriageway, you think it's safer and by some degree it's safer than a twisting A road.
You can't really compare it with a 3 hour drive by MTB'ers to ride a gravel shute though, since thats a specific course not on a road and the only traffic will be other riders.
Still find TT's in general confusing to me.
It's his other leg.
Still find TT's in general confusing to me.
Me too. Quite addictive though!
The appeal is pretty basic really; it's about being faster than someone else or, faster than you have previously been. We have in an built desire to progress and become better.
There is an interesting article on doping in the amateur ranks of cycling on the BBC's website which taps into these ideas and explains the appeal of TT racing quite well I think (albeit in a tangental way):
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/32662773 ]Linky[/url]
It gave me that 'Strava' feeling long before Strava was invented!
Still find TT's in general confusing to me.
Getting on a bike and riding as "fast as ...." is confusing?
Why would you film that?
Why would you comment on this thread?
Still find TT's in general confusing to me.
It's simply about speed. How fast can I go?
Most fast testers have serious OCD. I mean [u]SERIOUS[/u] OCD
Chris Boardman missed the birth of his first son, because he had to recce the national TT course. he wasn't racing it, just checking it out. It takes over...
offtopic, but what happened to the aero 3:1 rule?
Surely those areas under the tt are over that?
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Maybe it's a difference between British cycling And uci rules.
That event would be under CTT rules, which are different again.
Bolide looks the same that was used in TdF, etc though.
I wonder if they're trying to suggest that some of that is the top tube profile.
You'd think it would have to be measured in the direction of travel though.
When I do a search about it, all I find is people talking about that brake fairing.
Similar, if not identical, to the one he rode in the Worlds, so presumably UCI legal
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Same frame in use by Sky at the Giro at the moment
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Has the little UCI approved sticker on the seat tube 🙂
Does all seem a bit random though, they seem a lot more relaxed about what they approve these days.
Interesting to note the lower position at the recent 10 than that pic from the worlds - guess it was a shorter TT.
Looks like he's had his torso surgically shortened!nemesis - MemberInteresting to note the lower position at the recent 10 than that pic from the worlds - guess it was a shorter TT.
Could be. All a power / aero / sustainability trade off so stands to reason it's going to be different between a 18 min and hour long effort, what with marginal gains and all that. Not seen him TT in anything other than a bambino for a while either.
The aero bars are significantly lower. Hurts my back just looking at it!Interesting to note the lower position at the recent 10 than that pic from the worlds
the worlds was a longer, hillier course so he probably sacificied a shade less aero for a shade more power
it (or whatever he did) worked cos he now has a stripy jumper 🙂
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Why would you film that?
This isn't a serious question, is it?
Probably a once in a lifetime chance to race in close proximity (albiet briefly) to a legend like Wiggo, wouldn't anybody want it on film for posterity?
As it happens I know Andy Birdsall, I've ridden with him a couple of times with a local road club, Tickhill Velo, nice chap and good for him on his 5 mins of fame.
[quote=nemesis ]Interesting to note the lower position at the recent 10 than that pic from the worlds - guess it was a shorter TT.
Well spotted - looks like less spacers between the tri-bars and base bar to me. I'd have thought he'd be riding this in his hour record position, which is what he's presumably spending all his time training in at the moment. More to do with the lack of hills than duration in that case - and possibly because he's had a longer block of training specifically for riding in TT position now than he had before the worlds.