Any Panaracer Pasela users here?

Looking to get some wider road tyres for road/bimbling about single speed.
Ideally would get something like the compass Stampede Pass, but can’t really justify the cost so looking at panaracer paselas – just wondering on the difference between the tour guard and the PT versions.
Can’t work out what the difference is and if folding vs wire bead will make that much difference?

yep, have a fair few miles logged on both 26 and 700c versions in various guises. Got 700x35s on the commuter/tourer/gravel bike thing standing in for Compass Barlow Pass over the winter (should probably swap back now), and some 26×1.75s on the town bike, all folding PT (formally TG I think?) versions.

difference between the tour guard and the PT

should all be spelled out on their website including weights if you search, be careful as at one point the TG got renamed to PT I think? which makes searching it a bit more awkward, I think theres also a ‘plus’ version (of the TG?) which is a lot more like a marathon plus in terms of casing and protection.

I think they’ve actually done themselves a disservice to use the ‘Pasela’ name for so many different casing types as it can really skew your perception of the tyre if you get the wrong type.

Ideally would get something like the compass Stampede Pass, but can’t really justify the cost so looking at panaracer paselas

They’re good tyres, but a Compass substitute they are not, even in their lightest non PT/TG’d version. The lightest casing is on a par with the standard compass casing, but with a much thicker tread so still doesn’t feel as supple, wears better though…

The Compass extralight casing is another league again in terms of comfort.

Yes, they do have some confusing names.
The Panaracer Pasela TG (Tourguard) has now become the Panaracer Pasela PT (Protite). Though some websites still list it as Pasela TG.

It seems the regular Pasela (non TG/PT) is no longer available.
The Panaracer Tourguard is not actually named as a Pasela tyre. It is a lot heavier, more like the Schwalbe Marathon. Or the Tourguard Plus is an even heavier version.

I like Pasela PT anyway. Light enough for me, and last ages, with no punctures. I also like the Ribmo PT, which are kind of similar, but a different profile, less tread, maybe better for smooth roads.

Thanks both – yep, i was thoroughly confused by the panaracer website as it doesn’t reflect what people are selling.

So even if i can find the lightest folding version of the pasela they’re still not going to be a patch on compass tyres.

Any other recommendations for a tan wall tyre?

So even if i can find the lightest folding version of the pasela they’re still not going to be a patch on compass tyres.

correct, very little is in my opinion, they are exceedingly good and the only compelling reason not to use them (for their intended use obviously no good in mud etc.) is if you need more puncture protection (not that they puncture often anyway) or don’t want to spend the money.

Any other recommendations for a tan wall tyre?

Challenge do some very good tan wall tyres, but similar prices to Compass, not tried any personally but based on talking to other users and the published info they should be exceedingly good, I was going to try some at some point.

Don’t get me wrong, Paselas are good*, they’re just not Compass good.

*they also are a bit more pressure sensitive I think, they get draggy if you run them too soft, even at pressures that the Compass would still be good at, and they get a bit ‘crashy/bangy’ if you run them too hard, the sweetspot range is tighter if that makes sense? Compass are a lot more forgiving at both ends of the scale and I think that makes them a bit more versatile as well. Paselas are a bit grippier offroad on the dirt though and last a lot longer as the tread is a lot thicker.

Tanwall std Barlow Passes (or the TLR 35c Bon Jon Pass) are £40 each compared to the £50 black only extralights.