Any drummers on STW?

Having been inspired by watching El Estepario Siberiano videos on youtube, I fancy getting myself a drum kit and giving it a go.

As I live in an apartment I will need an e-drum kit, I kind of have my eye on a roland td-27kv2 which is quite expensive (or mid tier I think in drum kit terms, but quite expensive for a beginner) however I think I would get a good chunk of my money back if I didn’t take to drumming and sold it on.

But I am undecided whether the better option would be to get something cheaper, and then upgrade if I ever get past the capabilities of a cheaper kit. I understand that some of the cheaper kits are quite load anyway so that may be a problem.

Just hoping someone with some knowledge of edrum kits might have some worthwhile advice to give, and maybe a recommendation for a drumming app or online course.

Not played e kits but I’m a pretty experienced drummer. Sadly have a pearl masters custom sat in my cupboard waiting for the day I own a detached house in the middle of nowhere (yeah, lol)

From my research, Roland are the ones to go for, purely in resale value if nothing else. Once you get to the td-17kvx2 and above, you get the proper hi-hat, I think this will make a big difference as to how realistic the feel is. The lower models you’re just hitting a rubber disc with a little, separated foot controller.

For less spendy, I gear a lot of good things about the Alesis kits, can’t remember the range names but they do proper mesh head kits at around the 4-600 quid area, a fair bit cheaper

Im sure El Estepario is actually an alien though  no way should a human be capable of that…

There’s been a few threads on this.

e.g.

STW Drummers assemble! – beginner kit advice

Drummers of Singletrack

From experience, cheap kits are ****, avoid.

@johndrummer to the forum please

Isn’t the answer always Roland and Drumeo?

Always wanted to try but really should sort out my guitar playing first, then the bass,….  There are a few drummers here, hopefully they will pipe up.  Nothing wrong with spending money on kit if you have it, we know it works for bikes better than a bso so why not for drums too

Well, you’ve said it all in your OP. Pretty spot on.

I think smart move to look up the range to a full mesh Roland, it’s a bit like starting on a proper MTB versus a BSO.

and yes, they are NOT silent. Mesh is better for sure. So you might need some budget for a platform to put the kick on if you’ve got neighbours below. I can’t recommend products, I made mine out of thick foam and mdf to keep her downstairs happy.

TD17kvx would be where I’d point you, 27 seems a bit indulgent, but if you can, do!

Finally, you’ll never be el estaprio, he’s super-human. But you will be decent! I took up drumming thanks to my lovely wife getting fed up with me dreaming out loud of being a drummer far too much. She got me a basic kit for my 30th birthday. I knew I would be, and turns out I am pretty decent! Took a few lessons, formed a band, we’ve done loads of gigs having fun doing covers. Taken a back seat now due to kids but if you wanna do it, you can! Is my message.

Couple more points having re-read the OP:

I think I would get a good chunk of my money back if I didn’t take to drumming and sold it on.

excellent man-maths there, I muchly approve.

maybe a recommendation for a drumming app or online course.

drumeo would be the obvious go to online. But I can’t overstate enough the benefit of an in person teacher. Will feedback on your technique as well as giving you a weekly target to make sure you actually stay dedicated!

Finally, you’ll never be el estaprio

You take that back!!!

I have the 27k kit with digital high hat and snare. I got there through the upgrade path from a 17k kit. Apart from the digital snare and high hat I’ve bought most of my upgraded kit via eBay. If I did it all again I’d go straight in with a full 27k kit as it would be cheaper.

btw el estspario is now a Drumeo teacher. I just finished hi 30day independence course.

I started with a secondhand alesis mesh kit which was fine for a few years. I now have a second hand Roland TD9 which is good. Have upgraded to the standalone hi hat, Better base drum and snare and it’s been great. Honestly might be worth grabbing one of the cheaper mesh kits just to get on board with it all and then sell it on and upgrade if it’s something you want to carry on with. You see loads of £1500-2000 kits on market place that people have bought on a whim.

I just sold my td-3 kit, bought 5 years ago and I’ve done too little to learn and justify the space it took up. Sold for the same as I bought (including practice speaker and headphones).

Maybe a retirement project if I ever make it there.

My youngest plays on an Alesis mesh kit – we’ve upgraded the snare to a Roland one (mainly for the size – functionally there’s not a huge difference), added a second floor tom and a Tama double pedal. Also we recently changed the plastic cymbals and hi hat to a cheapy set of low volume metal ones (with a proper hi hat stand) – they’re an absolute game changer.

Agree with getting a teacher – you’ll make progress much quicker and learn better technique.

I have a nitro mesh kit I bought, used once and is now for sale if interested

Also a drummer with a Roland td-17kv here. Bought it second hand around 7 years ago and used almost daily. Only now is it starting to have defects. I’ve got it setup with a pc and now I sound like Mario Duplantier (look him up) but with 0.001% the ability.

Definitely to 2nd hand it’ll be worth it. And definitely go for in-person lessons if you can.

Where are you based? May be that one of us are near enough for you to have a dabble?

If you are only starting and not sure if you will stick at it get something like the Alesis Nitro mesh. It will be quite a while before you would need something like a td27. And a bigger market (beginners) to sell on to if you decide to upgrade.

Then order a custom maple kit 😉

My kids have both had lessons (I’ve had a few) and we got put in touch with someone selling a used Roland kit and its been spot on. I don’t play and the youngest has dropped away from it a bit but my eldest is still going and loves it. I’d definitely recommend a real life instructor – I’ve tried following online stuff and having a teacher there to give you in-person tips etc is well worth it. I know a great teacher if anyone is in York…

Do it!

The world needs more drummers. In a world awash with singers and guitarists, drummers are as rare as hens teeth.

If you can drum to a basic standard and have a non psycho personality you’ll be able to find loads of local bands who are all crying out for you to join them.

If you can drum to a basic standard and have a non psycho personality you’ll be able to find loads of local bands who are all crying out for you to join them.

Can confirm

I play, learned on an acoustic kit (grew up in a detached house next door to a pub) and now have both at home although acoustic kit lives in bags ready for gigs. All electric kits I’ve played have been nowhere near as good as an acoustic kit, I’ve never played any really high end e-kits though, but up to £2k it’s still not quite there. I’ve got an Alesis Crimson mesh kit and it’s ok, a bit better than my old super cheap bottom of the range yamaha, but only because I’ve been able to expand it to match my acoustic kit, if I was starting from scratch I’d have been fine with the yamaha one, and was fine for many years.

If you’re in an apartment the biggest noise issue will be from pedals if you’ve got downstairs neighbours they’ll prefer you have the switched type bass drum pedal, but a proper separate pedal and pad is better.

If I was starting now, I’d get a basic Roland kit for resale value, either new or used and upgrade if and when you outgrow it. As others have said, if you get anywhere past a basic standard you’ll need to invest in an acoustic kit to be able to do gigs with the 5 bands you’ll inevitably join. Then the real expense starts.

I just pressed buy on a roland td-27kv2, it will be a couple of weeks before I get it and set it up.

I think I will need some extras as well, the kit itself needs a pedal, hi-hat and snare stand to complete it. So I would like recommendations for something decent but not too expensive

I will need some clubs to play it, which seem to come in different sizes, should I buy a selection and see what I get on with or just buy a standard 2b(?) and take it from there.

Is there anything else I haven’t thought of?

Now anyone want to buy a bike or a kidney?

Awesome, very bling. Not jealous at all, honest guv.

You’ll probably need a stool, or a throne lol as they’re often called, decent set of (wired) headphones too but guessing you’ll have them. Hardware wise can’t recommend anything specific but I can imagine the cheaper stuff from ie Mapex is going to be ok, functional. Have had various budget stands and bits over the years and it’s generally pretty good these days. Sticks I prefer thinner, but that’s personal so perhaps buy a few pairs and see what you like. Enjoy.

2b sticks are huge! I’d go 5a to start with, better to work up to heavier sticks if you like the feel later on, less wear and tear on the drums too.

Nice kit though, very nice. You’d be able to use that even if you did decide to join a band. Maybe not a punk band but would do pretty much anything else

If you’re near Sheffield, I’m selling mine, I never use it. Can’t be bothered posting.

For a drum throne, find one that is quite stiffly padded and stable, you should be sitting higher than you probably think.

Headphones, if you’ve got money get some audio technica something 50 models. I’ve got them and they are brilliant, I had an Amazon voucher which made them £50. Bad headphones will ruin the experience easily.

Great kit though, good luck in your mission. You’ll soon realise just how fun and how hard it is.

Finally, you’ll never be el estaprio

How about Danny Carey?

New DK day.

I will tidy up the cables in a few days when I am happy with everything