[Closed] Amy Whinehouse

I don't listen, the bits I've heard were crap.

R6 is better, still some dross and playlist crap too.

This isn't unusual. When people die they tend to get put on a pedestal somewhat.

Look how much people go on about Buddy Holly, and he was complete and utter pants.

Yeah Radio 6 is pretty good. Don't get to listen to a digi radio a lot.

Who's inherited the rights to her music since? Is it her father Mitch? She's making someone a fortune.

While I'm at it which idiot probably from my generation has done a degree in marketing then decided the right name for a programme about women truckers on tv tonight should be called Mothertruckers?!? I'm worried for the youth.

Then again my work to caffeine to outdoor activities ratio is out this week.

Look how much people go on about Buddy Holly, and he was complete and utter pants.

yeah, right and that Elvis fella too

I don't listen, the bits I've heard were crap.
R6 is better, still some dross and playlist crap too.

Look how much people go on about Buddy Holly, and he was complete and utter pants.

I quite like 6 Music..........however the times I've been on there and they've asked me what I wanted played,they tell you they haven't got it and couldn't I pick something from playlist A,B or C instead? sometimes They'll even suggest 4 or 5 specific tracks you my want to "select". Bit pants really.

CZ I guess it's subjective, what with different folk having like different taste, including complete strangers on the internet and that?

i too listen to 6music a fair bit and concur that there's a lot of shit that gets playlisted that gets very boring very quickly. same with their own ads - i honestly must have heard that jarvis cocker/leonard cohen ad over a hundred times in the last week or two.

I bet the record label is behind the push for the increase in broadcasting of songs from the dead people. Kaching! Kaching! Kaching! 🙄

Buddy Holly and Elvis were Godlike. How very dare you!! Next you will be dissing the King Himself...Sidney

Sidney?

Sidney the Vicious one ?

Daytime Radio went down the shitter when marc 'n' lard parted .a sad day indeed. 😥

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'till it's gone?

Radio 2 shot themselves in the foot for me when they got rid of Radcliff and Maconie.

It really is a sad state of affairs when two 50 somethings are the edgiest thing on your schedule and you bump them for more anodyne copy and paste pop.

6 music is where its at if you like music to be more than background.

[i]Radio 2 shot themselves in the foot for me when they got rid of Radcliff and Maconie.[/i]

shot six music in the head, wish they'd **** off back to 2, they make smashie 'n' nicey look like a class act.

The nation-wide traffic reports get on my nerves with Radio 2. They are going to be irrelevant to almost everybody listening, surely.

shot six music in the head, wish they'd **** off back to 2, they make smashie 'n' nicey look like a class act.

Horses for courses innit?

Sidney?

Sidney the Vicious one ?

Sidney Youngblood

sparkyrhino - Member
Daytime Radio went down the shitter when marc 'n' lard parted .a sad day indeed.

This man speaks the truth.

Sidney Poitier ?

Really ? people not receiving proper respect for their lifetime achievement until after their death ! surely not..........

Really ? people not receiving proper respect for their lifetime achievement until after their death ! surely not..........

Are you holding out for that yourself? ; )

Chris Evans and Steve Wright are OK, but get rid of Ken Bruce.. wtf is that 'popmaster' shite all about?

And kick Jeremy Vine off too, its more like Jeremy Kyle with the idiots he has on for his crap 'discussions'

Edit: +1 for Bring back Mark and Lard, and Mr Angry too!

cheekyboy - Member

Sidney?

Sidney the Vicious one ?

Sidney Youngblood

Sidney Divine surely?

bbc music radio effectively turned turtle and wheezed it's last vapid breath when John Peel died..

Really ? people not receiving proper respect for their lifetime achievement until after their death ! surely not..

Yeah get your point but in her case a lot of the same people who pulled her up on her lifestyle to gain column inches/airtime/views/clicks are those that are now saying she was better than sliced bread. I'm not really surprised, just more and more disinterested in the mainstream. Makes me wonder how many still are. I mean we all only live in the mainstream for a limited window don't we? I think that when I listen to the transformers theme music which is Skrillex on radio 1.

Suppose nobody has the courage of their convictions nowadays, easier just to sway with the tides of the 'public opinion'

[i]Why didn't radio 2 (and most for that matter) show her this much love when she was alive!? Makes me feel a bit nauseous to be honest.[/i]

Cos she was a derivative, tedious, load of old shit?

Suppose nobody has the courage

I think you need to follow your own advice and mainly look out of the mainstream for those who do follow their own convictions.

If you want to stay in the mainstream as you call it you've got to go with the flow if that's not milking the metaphor too much.

Also, mainstream doesn't necessarily mean mediocre. Amy W is not my cup of tea but when I hear Love is a Losing Game the word that springs to my mind is genius much over used though that word is.

Cos she was a derivative, tedious, load of old shit?

What you actually mean here is 'I didn't like her music'

Whats all the radio 2 nonsense? Have you given up and accepted you're middleaged?

Best female singer songwriter for a long time. yes she sang in an established style but name anyone better?

I think you need to follow your own advice and mainly look out of the mainstream for those who do follow their own convictions.

I get your point.

I'm mainly into old italian housey piano tunes/vocal trance and a few other genres so not really mainstream with musical interests and I wouldn't say I like or dislike Amy Winehouse's music. Radio 2's been on in the background for the last few days and it's started to get on my nerves.

Takes me back 5 years to a manufacturing job, being forced to listen to the same bland tunes spin around in a different order every 3or4 hours.

Maybe I've got old and not noticed.

EDIT TBH I'll listen to almost anything.

Maybe I've got old and not noticed.

Not liking radio 2 is a sign of not being old!

I didn't hear much winehouse bashing, from a musical point of view. Outside the tabloids, the main sentiment I heard was along the lines of: "Isn't it a shame to see talent go to waste, let's hope she can pull herself together and do herself justice"

I'm sat listening to Slide Away by everyone's favorite band wondering where them days went.

Best female singer songwriter for a long time. yes she sang in an established style but name anyone better?

Kate Bush
Tori Amos
PJ Harvey
Siouxsie Sioux
Danielle Dax
Devil doll
plus loads more 😀

And the King was Kurt......let's go wrecking

Tazzy - recent? and that list is distinctly arguable

Devil doll is recent PJ harvey is still going Siouxsie is still producing as is tori amos, I think longevity of talent is more important than a piss head young un that managed a couple of mediocre albums before becoming such a mess that she couldn't even manage to perform live.

but hey it's all personal opinion and as you are never wrong, who am I to argue 😆

Radio now is better than it has ever been. Not so long back radio 2 was all glen miller and such like. Now you will hear the biggest variety of music this side of 6. Ken Bruce and pop master are essential listening for 40s males.
Amy Winehouse female Vic reeves pub singer. (apart from tears dry on their own, genius)
Buddy Holly was going nowhere till he died.
Elvis and heartbreak hotel was the very start of modern music. There is nothing before then I would want to listen to.(other people are free to disagree).
With digital radio you are now free to tune out and find something else.
10 years back it was all crapital radio clones. There was no choice.
All hail the BBC, it ain't perfect but tune in 95.8 and hear what radio used to be like.

Personally, I don't really 'do' female singers/vocalists, just maybe the odd track here and there. A bit of Hazel O'Connor or a touch of Elizabeth Fraser now and again. There's all kinds of gubbins on the background radio that is filtered through my subconscious at work though, including the aforementioned Winehouse woman, that I have no way of avoiding all day. I'd rather listen to talk shows or Test Match Special to be honest.
However, Radio 2 seems to have twisted into an unholy mix of the utter utter abomination that it was in the mid-80s, with the similarly obnoxious turd that was Radio 1 around the same time. I despised them both then and the intervening 25 years or so haven't mellowed my view of the current affront that I'm subjected to daily nowadays. As for Steve Wright - is there a bigger S****horpe in the broadcasting world? I suspect not. Bachmman Turner Overdrive indeed....

While i can't knock Amy Winehouse's voice she was extremely derivative after the Frank album, it was nitable that she took a bunch of Ronettes singles to Mark Ronson and said "make me sound like this"

There have been a million artists come and gone but very few true originals, and people can jump on as many bandwagons as they like once an artist is dead, but she never released anything for a long time after Back to Black and did a piss poor job of being a hellraiser while still being able to play live.

I agree with a lit of posters on here, top female artists have been PJ Harvey, Liz Fraser, Tori Amos, Kate Bush, Kim Gordon, Kristin Hersh, Tanya Donnelly and the much lesser known Monica Queen

and don't get me started on Adele, theres just something about her smug face and the whole "oh, my poor throat" while chain smoking Marlboro Lights that gets right on my pods (and Radio 2 is quite poor these days)

i have no choice at the moment (do not have a d.a.b radio).radio 2 is the only radio station i can get (that sometimes has some decent music on it).i intend to buy a d.a.b though (anyone from wiltshire that knows of any good radio stations to listen too?thinking 80's rock/metal trance onwards)

I would say the most unlistenable thing on radio is anything that has been auto tuned.
This is a computer that makes people sing in tune. Even Adele who I'm not fond of but can sing perfectly well is subject to this treatment.
It makes the singers sound just a bit fuzzy. Maroon 5 are probably the biggest culprits.
For an artist in the studio it is the biggest insult a producer can give them.

I agree with a lit of posters on here, top female artists have been PJ Harvey, Liz Fraser, Tori Amos, Kate Bush, Kim Gordon, Kristin Hersh, Tanya Donnelly and the much lesser known Monica Queen

......... and not even a passing mention of the wonderful Dusty 😕

Can I add Harriet Wheeler from the Sundays. When she goes 'err uh' in can't be sure, that does it for me!

Sia Furler. Beautiful voice and great songs.

TandemJeremy - Member
Best female singer songwriter for a long time. yes she sang in an established style but name anyone better?

Eliza Carthy
Kate Rusby
Imogen Heap....

and dare I say it

Adele

Interesting. So people like white female singers and white female singers impersonating black female singers (eg. Whingehouse) but not many black female singers?

Interesting this. I don't remember any "anti-Amy" sentiment on Radio 2 before her death. They'd played her before and they played her after, helped by a new album. Isn't that the way it always works? Have album will play music.

As for comparisons to others, I love Amy Winehouse, PJ Harvey, Kate Rusby etc and seen them all live. You can compare and contrast their styles until the cows come home, but Winehouse was (IMO) the most naturally talented singer. It was nice to hear some properly crafted pop music performed by someone who could genuinely sing.

[i]"Interesting. So people like white female singers and white female singers impersonating black female singers (eg. Whingehouse) but not many black female singers?"[/i]

Actually, I like plenty of female singers who are black and am more than happy to bracket Amy Winehouse with Etta James, Nina Simone, Billie Holiday etc, certainly in terms of ability to perform and emote anyway.

The fact that she disintegrated and ended up ruining her own life is very sad, but of no real consequence or detriment to her presence as a performer,as she had more presence in her hair, on stage and in real life than many performers can muster in their entire lives.

Best female singer songwriter for a long time. yes she sang in an established style but name anyone better?

ok - Gillian Welch

Just dont get the adoration for winehouse - she had 2 or 3 good songs and thats about it - no great loss.

Ah well- its all so subjective isn't it - never heard of Gillian Welch so had a listen - don't think much of her but then I hate the style. thin and reedy voice.

Amy was brilliant but a loose cannon , now they can safely release stuff that she probably wouldn't have regarded as up to her usual standard , the newly released post-humous cd being a very depressing example. There are a whole raft of artists [ jeff buckley et al ] who have released more material since they died than they did in life. On a more positve note I hear that Jimi Hendrix's new release is a winner !!!!!!!

[i]Actually, I like plenty of female singers who are black and am more than happy to bracket Amy Winehouse with Etta James, Nina Simone, Billie Holiday etc, certainly in terms of ability to perform and emote anyway.[/i]

A joke, surely!?
Don't you get the difference between originality and imitation?

Its all bollocks
(selects Slayer on i pod...)

Laura Marling, megan Washington, Ellie Goulding, Frazey Ford, Regina Spektor, Diane Birch

Off the top of my head, broaden your horizons boys 🙂

[i]"A joke, surely!?
Don't you get the difference between originality and imitation?"[/i]

Well, I've been a pro session guitarist for over thirty years, a label owner/producer/promoter for twenty plus years.

I've played with Amy Winehouse(who incidentally was a gem to work with and invariably got it right first take, unlike many others), Etta James, oh and PJ Harvey amongst many others and a few mentioned above. So yeah, I'm pretty 'kin sure I can tell the difference.

So I suggest you stop talking through y' bunghole just to get a reaction, sit down and listen without prejudice, Anyway I can't be bothered any more ta ta 🙂

Tazzy - recent? [u]and that list is distinctly arguable[/u]

Ah well- its all so subjective isn't it

Looks like the banning you mentioned has had its desired effect 😉

Emzs...... Laura Marling and Regina Spektor are ace :)still not sure about Diane Birch, need a bit more time on that I reckon 🙂

Roisin Murphy (although more for her voice than song content)
Sarah Mclachlan. Off the top of my head.

Don't know about their writing abilities.

...oh and a lady in a bar in Galway. She was good.

Ellie Goulding

Proof, if ever it were needed, that there is indeed no accounting for taste. I don't mind the close-mic'd frailty of her voice, but when I've heard her sing live the breathlessness gets a bit tiresome.

oh and Laura Viers and Laura Nyro and Laura Cantrell, all the Lauras really

a few new names to me so I will have a listen

It's a genre I will own up to say isn't always my first choice, however, when I'm in the mood, Chan Marshall AKA Cat Power takes some beating. Very stirring, yet also very relaxing.

emz I see your Laura Marling, megan Washington, Ellie Goulding, Frazey Ford, Regina Spektor, Diane Birch , and I raise you - Toni Childs and Cassandra Wilson ,so much talent............................

Etta James and Irma Thomas are the best female voices ever,I.M.H.O of course 🙂

Mikey3 I agree with you if you add Billie Hoilday , oh and Irma Franklin

[i] oh and Irma Franklin [/i]
Any relation to Erma Franklin?

did I spell it wrong ? sister of eurethra frankling , you know .

Everyone loves you when you're dead!
Went to see her live and she just wasn't that good. Looked like a crack head on a bad day and blown off stage by her backing singers. Me and my mates came out saying that was a bit rubbish. After her death same mates now say how great the gig was. Time for an argument me thinks.

[i]Well, I've been a pro session guitarist for over thirty years, a label owner/producer/promoter for twenty plus years.[/i]

That's me told then!
(Shocked and amazed to the core anyway.)