Acceptable word on CBeebies?

Well I don’t think teaching a small child to call someone poo face is a good thing.

he didn’t say he’d taught his child to say poo head though did he Mary Whitehouse?

Have you ever sworn in front of your kids MF? Do you all have matching jumpers?

With you here OP I would not want my kids to say oh poo either.. I mean we are northern and I dont want them to look like they are middle class or southern dandies

My kids language when cross is a little like the scene from Pulb fiction in the diner when they pull the guns out .. all about earning respect innit.

make a list of rules MF, call them commandments if it pleases you. be sure put them in your audi TTT poohead covertible as well.

Society is grateful to you, tea at the palace?

Nice try Molgrips. 😉

I’m with him on this btw. No nasty language on CBeebies please. And by nasty I mean unpleasant in intent, not necessarily containing ‘swear’ words.

With you here OP I would not want my kids to say oh poo either.. I mean we are northern and I dont want them to look like they are middle class or southern dandies

Don’t all Northern children work up chimneys? In which case, you’re right using the word poo is inappropriate.

Wow. Your kids must be positively angelic. If saying “Oh poo” was likely to be even slightly noticeable as a misdemeanor in the constant barrage of toddler mayhem we get from our lad I’d be over the moon.

they just reflect your modelled behaviour.

I also with MF on this. There’s a time and a place for saying poo. Children should learn some words are more acceptable at certain times/places than others. What’s wrong with that? Just another example of declining standards.

It is good to see that at least one poster has understood what I was saying. In itself ‘poo’ is not offensive – I accept that. What I was simply saying was that teaching very young children to use it expletively seems odd.

I don’t think I would have batted an eyelid had it been on Children’s BBC, but CBeebies is for very young children and why should they be taught that sort of language?

And yes I have sworn in front of them – I have already stated that.

EDIT: Two people 🙂

I don’t think even Mumsnet would be able to have a debate on whether poo is a naughty word for kiddies. I mean FFS guys 8)

Oh and LOL @ wwaswas

whether poo is a naughty word for kiddies

Having read this I’m with MF, I think.

It’s not the place of a young kids tv channel to introduce the idea of expletives at all. Whether it’s shit, poo or f*ck it makes no odds. For me it’s the idea that they are introduced to a concept where having something go wrong results in some form of word being said out of frustration.

I work in construction, I swear like it’s going out of fashion at work but have so far managed for the last 6 years not to swear within earshot of my kids, they will hear it in the playground and in the supermarket but parents should be safe in the knowledge that kids specific tv helps to reinforce a positive approach.

If parent’s choose to swear in front of their kids it’s a shame but it’s the way they choose, likewise if parent’s are relaxed in the knowledge that their parenting style helps their children sift through the negative words and come to the right conclusion then again that’s fine.

However I’d prefer to keep it all positive with my kids on the basis that they will get enough shit shouted around in the big bad world as they get older.

I don’t swear in front of my daughter. However I do shout a lot and get annoyed (ONLY with inanimate objects mind) and to be honest this is much worse 🙁

Mrs Grips tells me off (gently but firmly) when I do it, for the benefit of Lil Grips, which is the right thing to do. Tellings off are not just for kids.

Well I don’t think teaching a small child to call someone poo face is a good thing.

As has been stated above I’m not teaching her that, but any word could be turned into an offensive remark such as ‘Oi flan face’ or ‘Oi you spanner’ are you going to ban any mention of sponge based desserts and hand tools just in case?

When she is filling her nappy, Ms TT certainly shows us her poo face. Like her war face, but for pooing, not war. We refer to it, within earshot, as her poo face.

I now feel like a terrible parent and will castigate myself for such behaviour. I will, however, laugh at her baby gibberish that sounds like ‘buggerbuggerbugger’ until the cows come home.

Perhaps, the liberal and enlightened BBC are taking their quest of all-inclusive accetance to the next logical step. After all, there was a lot of hoo-ha a while back about having someone physically disabled as a presenter.

Maybe now they’ve gently broaching the subject of mental illness, and have introduced a Cbeebies presenter with a form of mild, middle-class tourettes. They might say ‘oh bugger’ next in a moment of pent-up frustration.Serious stuff

Binners, I think you’ll find the next step is to use the C word before the watershed. Oh, they’ve already done that….

I think I’m with MF on this one, poo, damn, sugar, poot, whatever the word chosen it’s probably not a good thing for cbeebies to be showing and kids to be learning expletives ie sommat you shout/say when something frustrating happens, doesn’t have to be a sweary word. Yes they probably hear worse at home but normally unintentionally, not scripted and placed there specifically for kids to hear.

And yes “show me show me” blows goats, a bloody awful bit of telly.

‘oh bugger’

I say, steady on.

phil’s list of acceptable phrases for kids:

“oh bother” – as in: oh golly gosh what a bothersome situation i’ve placed myself in.

“you silly billy”

“Dash and blast it”

(warning… your child, if found saying this old fashioned phrases, will have the shizzle beaten out of them by the cool kids.. and deservedly so. be a better parent, teach your children how to verbally defend themselves against people from the 40’s. give them some insane clown posse to fall asleep to and harden them up with surprise insult attacks throughout the day.)

I’m particularly enjoying Katy’s current elevation to main presenter

Though you do seem to have found a particularly bad picture of her – either that or she looks far worse in photos than on the TV screen.

Regarding the OP – surely the fact you can get away with writing poo, poo, poo on here without it getting censored or getting banned says it all? Are you planning on keeping your kids isolated from other (and older) kids? Because my 4yo comes up with worse stuff than “oh poo” (not in terms of the words used, but the context) from contact with other perfectly nice kids a few years older than him.

“you silly billy”

I do actually say that to my daughter, but when she’s of age I’m sending her to school armed so It’s no matter.

If parent’s choose to swear in front of their kids it’s a shame but it’s the way they choose

It’s a sad state of affairs, but it does seem to be the case. I was in a shop the other day when a father (presumably) loudly reprimanded his son with the eloquent “you’re being a f***ing c*** again.” A little part of me died inside.

Swearing’s a funny thing. It’s a wholly invented thing that we choose to take offence at, and it’s frankly ludicrous. The c-bomb is pretty much considered the worst swear-word imaginable, and it’s slang for a body part owned by half the population. On the other hand, I could say “fanny” and no-one would really bat an eyelid, when it means exactly the same thing. I could say “is it buggery” in a pre-watershed environment, and that’s an allusion to gay bumsex. Swear words are offensive purely because society tells us they are.

I swear too much, and I kinda wish that I didn’t, but it’s badly ingrained into my speech. I’d never do it in front of kids or my parents though. It’s not the language per sé that I have a problem with so much as the implied disrespect.

This is wind-up isn’t it?

surely the fact you can get away with writing poo, poo, poo on here without it getting censored or getting banned says it all?

Again, point missed.

However silly billy is a bit different, since you are simply pointing out when someone’s done something silly not calling them a bad word.

I don’t think it matters. They hear stuff you don’t want them to say all the time. My boy knows the boundaries and is fully aware when he breaks them.
I’ll never forget when he was about 3, playing with some cars and he said “Dad, these cars are f%^&ing great aren’t they?”
Gawd knows where he heard it, but didn’t know it was wrong at the time – now he does.
X Men film was a good case in point. He laughed at the rude word, but I know he won’t repeat the phrase used.

Some people are being very dim here – try to understand what I am saying before telling me I am talking poo.

Though you do seem to have found a particularly bad picture of her – either that or she looks far worse in photos than on the TV screen

That was the best google images had to offer. I await your better image (one of your personal screen grabs perhaps 😉 )

Some people are being very dim here – try to understand what I am saying before telling me I am talking poo.

Why on earth would we want to do that?

m_f – I think people do understand – you don’t want your children seeing behaviour modelled on cbeebies that indicates that ‘swearing’ (whatver words are used) when annoyed/upset/etc is ok?

I think the problem is that the expletive when stubbing one’s toe (or whatever) is a natural thing to do and most people accept that and then just try and make their kids understand what’s acceptable to use when.

For most ‘Oh poo!’ is almost funny when said by a small child in an appropriate context so it doesn’t bother them.

wouldn’t it make sense to teach your kids simple guidelines about swearing:

you can swear.

its fun to swear.

its even more fun to make up swear words with friends.

you must not swear at adults, teachers or parents.. if you do santa will rape christmas and burn down easter.

you must only teach children younger than you swear words if you think adults, teachers or parents cannot hear you.

swearing will make you look cool, much like smoking, drugs and loudly discussing sexual experiences near the geeky kids.

My mate’s 12 year old can’t wait for this to come out…

…never heard him say an even mildly rude word mind. Guess if you teach them right and wrong instead of ignoring an issue….

Again, point missed

and you appear not to have read all that I wrote.

If you’re suggesting that it’s not the word that is at issue, then is your point that “oh sausages” or “oh jelly babies” is equally unacceptable? If that’s not your point, then yest I am missing the point – you’re going to have to explain it in words of a single syllable (preferably avoiding those somebody might find offensive).

Molgrips

That’s two people, myself and another, you’ve reprimanded for ‘missing the point’ on a quite surreal thread.

Please tell me you’re just being a silly billy and not really taking this seriously 😆

to be honest I’m far more worried about CeeBeebies showing that people with 1 arm are normal and not to be burnt at the stake than them using the word poo

(yes I’m taking the wee wee here)

I like Katy, would like to see some pics\video of her and nina (minus the neurons) getting some lesbo action

I get called poo poo head by my 5 year old all the time, and as such his brother now also uses the language. He only does this at home though and possibly while at school. While we’re out he acts like a little **** angel

An expletive doesn’t need to contain a swear word for it to have a negative meaning…

…’poo’ is not offensive – I accept that. What I was simply saying was that teaching very young children to use it expletively seems odd.

So is your objection just based on CBeebies teaching your children that they can use words to express displeasure/frustration/annoyance?

If so then I entirely agree. The last thing we want is a generation of kids that are able to express themselves using words. They should just bottle up all those feelings and bury them deep inside till it develops into a burning ulcer of hate and loathing… like their dads did. 😉

The last thing we want is a generation of kids that are able to express themselves using words.

The thing is, they aren’t expressing themselves properly are they? Ohh, poo says nothing – it is expletive. Pointless. An utterance.

But yes, I accept children will learn this sort of language and much worse. But to use it on a television programme directed at young children seems odd. Just like I wouldn’t expect a teacher to say something that in front of small children.