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  • crankboy
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    ‘he is very assured, like he has read this a few times in advance, he doesn’t miss a beat, almost sounds excited”
    Its almost as if he is a minor media personality who is used to talking witnessed a major event and found himself in front of a camera.

    Why would the conspiracy use a known media whore as a witness rather than a clean skin ?

    jonnyboi
    Full Member

    @whathaveisaidnow

    Do you want to understand the facts, or do you want there to be a conspiracy?

    #poeslaw

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    Ground Zero isn’t a new term. It’s been in common useage since the 40’s.

    (Do you even read what people post?)

    who mentioned ‘new’?

    crankboy
    Free Member

    Does the fact your conspiracy video wrongly identifies him as an actor who was in los Angeles at the time and that truthfers continue to argue it is Humphreys and not Walsh in the video even though Walsh’s friends recognise him concern you?

    nealglover
    Free Member

    Sorry. You will need to explain then.

    Why then does it matter, that he used the term “ground zero” (in the correct context) in the video ?

    I’m not getting it.

    The video even said “wow” as if it was some exclusive “smoking gun” they had unearthed.

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    Do you want to understand the facts

    please God just give me the facts, actual undisputed, 100 per cent facts and truths please

    nealglover
    Free Member

    please God just give me the facts

    Ok.

    The video you posted is amateur hour garbage, and you should be embarrassed about posting it.

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    The man in a suit in the business end of new York who you find so exciting how do you read his mind ? How do you know why he is interested in listening to the interview , I would imagine the whole point of interviewing people for TV is that random people will be interested.

    he wasn’t a random person, he worked freelance for Fox, what are the odds that out of all the people they could have picked to interview it happened to be this guy…

    The guy in the suit has an earpiece and shows body language that suggests he is part of this scenario, not just a random suit…

    …no wonder i ride alone…

    sorry misinterpreted the random person as the interviewed guy… still its unusual…

    i don’t mind correcting my wrongs…

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    Ok.

    The video you posted as amateur hour garbage, and you should be embarrassed about posting it.

    you are real good at just ignoring my questions and just jumping on me….i’ve only been nice to you.

    …have you got an issue?

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    amateur hour garbage

    proof?

    crankboy
    Free Member

    AQ terrorists seized airliners and flew them into major buildings in America causing a massive loss of life massive financial loss and a huge blow to American pride . It was part of a continuing campaign of terror against America inspired by Ossama Bin laden.
    Some Americans try to restore a sense of self about this by saying Arabs could not pull that off it must be an American inside job. No ” evidence ” to support this conspiracy theory stands up to scrutiny. But still thanks to the wonders of the internet and the view everyone is entitled to an opinion the argument drags on.
    Is that the simple facts ?

    jonnyboi
    Full Member

    please God just give me the facts, actual undisputed, 100 per cent facts and truths please

    Ok, look at the video you posted and apply some critical thinking to it.

    Critique it from both sides of the debate, not just from what you want to see.

    Ignore the text overlay.

    nealglover
    Free Member

    he wasn’t a random person, he worked freelance for Fox, what are the odds that out of all the people they could have picked to interview it happened to be this guy…

    He introduced the guy as a freelancer for Fox. He knew who he was before the interview. He was stood there waiting to be interviewed.
    Just like most news interviews.

    He’s a freelance journalist who knows hundreds of other media people.
    He was an eyewitness to an incredible event.

    Explain again why you find it incredible that he would end up in front of a camera being asked about what he saw ?

    Northwind
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    Whathaveisaidnow – Member

    he wasn’t a random person, he worked freelance for Fox, what are the odds that out of all the people they could have picked to interview it happened to be this guy…

    As you say, he wasn’t random. What are the odds that a dude from Fox, finding a witness from Fox, who can speak coherently on TV without saying ****, would use them for that interview?

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    As you say, he wasn’t random. What are the odds that a dude from Fox, finding a witness from Fox, who can speak coherently on TV without saying ****, would use them for that interview?

    i agree that could be a sensible move… given the chaos…

    i am more alarmed by the certainty of his answers and the guys in black…

    crankboy
    Free Member

    “he wasn’t a random person, he worked freelance for Fox, what are the odds that out of all the people they could have picked to interview it happened to be this guy…”
    Re read what I wrote why would a man in black suit be interested in a TV interview because they are designed to be interesting to random people.
    What are the odds that a media whore with connections and a bona fide story to tell could find himself in front of a TV camera on the day a major event happened in his back yard ? Seriously I’d estimate about 100/100

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    Ok, look at the video you posted and apply some critical thinking to it.

    Critique it from both sides of the debate, not just from what you want to see.

    Ignore the text overlay.

    i’m learning to do this.

    nealglover
    Free Member

    i am more alarmed by the certainty of his answers and the guys in black

    He’s a professional reporter, and radio host, asked to do an interview about something he’d personally witnessed.
    How uncertain would you expect a prepared professional to be ?

    amateur hour garbage
    proof?

    It was produced by amateurs, and the text overlays claims are all garbage.

    (Why it it incredible that he used the term “ground zero”?
    He’s not an actor, he’s a reporter and radio host….. etc etc)

    crankboy
    Free Member

    “i am more alarmed by the certainty of his answers “
    He saw what happened
    “and the guys in black…”
    Guys in Manhattan in black suits wow who’d have guessed.
    They may be FBI or spooks !if so .. Do you not think the streets would be flooded by random people and every single available security man of every description who would be curious about everything , what with the massive event happening and all ?

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    okay…

    he used ground zero…. he could have been familiar with the term and used it correctly…

    okay…

    he worked for fox, he possibly filmed it, saw it all (that could be a lie),
    he was deemed a good guy to interview…get it…

    i’m struggling with the guys in black and his very assured take on why they came down…

    clear these bits up

    jonnyboi
    Full Member

    To be fair, the dudes in black suits are fairly odd.

    But this is the US so it’s at least believable

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    very assured

    Media training.

    If you’ve had it, you know how to speak to the media in a very assured manner. I know that I do.

    Also, people in suits in a CBD? Who’dathunkit.

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    “i am more alarmed by the certainty of his answers “
    He saw what happened
    “and the guys in black…”
    Guys in Manhattan in black suits wow who’d have guessed.
    They may be FBI or spooks !if so .. Do you not think the streets would be flooded by random people and every single available security man of every description who would be curious about everything , what with the massive event happening and all ?

    he saw what happened from a distance of 5 blocks … but he could not know how exactly the collapse happened…. impossible.

    if this was a set up interview….it was set up precisely, with thought,..there is nothing random about this interview…IMHO.

    jonnyboi
    Full Member

    In the interest of fairness, anyone want to explain the MIBs?

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    Media training.

    If you’ve had it, you know how to speak to the media in a very assured manner. I know that I do.

    Certainly he was ripe for this interview, i agree.

    gobuchul
    Free Member

    i’m struggling with the guys in black and his very assured take on why they came down…

    clear these bits up

    The 1st one appears to be a curious bystander who is listening to the interview. How many times have you seen people approach reporters and interviewees on the street to see what is going on?

    The 2nd one, is probably one of hundreds of FBI, police etc. who even if off duty would have been called in to work and cover the streets.

    Why would he lie about filming it? Surely if he was in on it, then he would of been waiting for it happen?

    Also, if this video is true, “they” have managed to keep another 4 individuals completely quiet about the whole conspiracy.

    I’m sure you’re trolling.

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    In the interest of fairness, anyone want to explain the MIBs?

    … i think without the second one saying….errr i can’t tell you why i’m here (off top of my head)… the first one would pass fairly unnoticed…maybe he works for fox, lots of expensive broadcast equipment and reporter to protect?

    nickc
    Full Member

    nothing random about this interview.

    The bloke he’s interviewing is another news reporter. It isn’t a random bloke from the street. He’s been chosen precisely because he can talk in front of a camera in coherent sentences rather then the usual “oh gawd, did you see, I mean, oh gawd, what…, oh gawd” normal shite that a non trained idiot would come up with… It makes for better telly

    jonnyboi
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    if this was a set up interview….it was set up precisely, with thought,..there is nothing random about this interview…IMHO.

    Ok, imagine the logistics to set this up. Consider how often it would have to be repeated, ask yourself why no one has talked.

    How many other interviews have you looked at, or did you look for conspiracies and find this? What does that tell you?

    Ask yourself if his answers deflect attention or attract it, if this was planned why give him that info if it sounds so suspicious?

    Are you suggesting that such a carefully planned false flag operation failed at such a basic level?

    Are you applying critical thinking?

    nickc
    Full Member

    And remember that Fox is an entertainment channel (ignore the Fox News bit) they want ratings and viewers not verisimilitude

    crankboy
    Free Member

    Google him his apartment was used for filming the scene for days after . he didn’t know exactly what happened he said structural failure how else do you say a structure fell down due to intense fire , he saw an intense fire! How odd is that to say a burning building that caught fire fell down , structurally failed due to fire . Interestingly the inquest into what happened agreed with this eye witness account . Most people think that when the inquest, technical evidence and eye witnesses agree then the official version is correct rather than the opposite.

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    Also, if this video is true, “they” have managed to keep another 4 individuals completely quiet about the whole conspiracy

    i really don’t buy,…the people would have come forward by now argument, because you know what, they wouldn’t be believed…

    I’ve been here since around 2002 ish,..under different names…i was part of billy no mates (people on here came together to form two teams) at sleepless in the saddle at Trentham circa whenever… does that make me a Troll? 🙂

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    Are you suggesting that such a carefully planned false flag operation failed at such a basic level?

    Are you applying critical thinking?

    …it has yet to fail…and likely never will…

    the vast majority of humans are used to fake tv….it makes it harder to see the truth IMHO.

    jonnyboi
    Full Member

    That suggests you me you’ve made your mind up and are looking for reinforcement rather than fact.

    If that’s the case good luck but I’m out

    crankboy
    Free Member

    “In the interest of fairness, anyone want to explain the MIBs?” See above but:
    Suits in Manhattan ! What next aprons in butcher’s shops!
    Every available law/security asset would flood the streets being interested in everything.
    Do you seriously think operational spooks wear a clearly identifiable uniform when operational ? Men in Black it’s even in the movies !

    gobuchul
    Free Member

    i really don’t buy,…the people would have come forward by now argument, because you know what, they wouldn’t be believed…

    🙄

    I’ve been here since around 2002 ish,..under different names…i was part of billy no mates (people on here came together to form two teams) at sleepless in the saddle at Trentham circa whenever… does that make me a Troll?

    WTF are you on about? You are trolling successfully as I am responding to the utter horseshit you are spouting and I can’t believe than anyone remotely sane can believe crap like in that video you posted. If you do think that’s some kind of “smoking gun” then you need help.

    So you took part in a 24hr bike ride, why does that prveent you from trolling?

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    How odd is that to say a burning building that caught fire fell down , structurally failed due to fire .

    Very odd, …as it is a very, very, very, very rare occurrence,..and three on one day is pushing it a little.

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    anyone remotely sane can believe crap like in that video

    feel free to ignore the text overlays…there is probably a version out there without them…

    stop with the hate please.

    crankboy
    Free Member

    How rare is it to fly two jets into the two tallest buildings in the world that are right next to another building ?

    Whathaveisaidnow
    Free Member

    “In the interest of fairness, anyone want to explain the MIBs?” See above but:
    Suits in Manhattan ! What next aprons in butcher’s shops!
    Every available law/security asset would flood the streets being interested in everything.
    Do you seriously think operational spooks wear a clearly identifiable uniform when operational ? Men in Black it’s even in the movies !

    ….their mannerisms and what they said…rather than what they are wearing more so… if a secret service guy goes to work every day in a suit and then on 9/11 it was mufti day,..that may have been even more suspicious?

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