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7Mesh WTV Chilco Jacket review
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chippsFull Member
7Mesh WTV Chilco jacket (‘Wind, Thermal, Ventilation’) is a big new thing from top-notch clothing company.
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nickcFull MemberAnd this brings me on to my main criticism of the Chilco jacket – it’s simply too hot most of the time!
I have the vest/gillet version of this, and for most of the time, it’s also too hot. It is however lovely to wear.
gazzab1955Full MemberSpooky, this top popped up on my Facebook feed yesterday! Had a look and really liked it, but having read your review I don’t think I will be buying it. I like some storage space in a top layer for phone or wallet or snacks as most of my rides don’t need a backpack. I like smock style jackets/tops, my Alpkit Jura is the go to jacket when its cold enough, but the kangaroo pockets need to hold gear in place and not make you look like you have eaten all the pies and then some more. This top needs a proper storage pocket, some armpit zips and some way of securing the hood so it doesn’t become a parachute brake.
BadlyWiredDogFull MemberJust wondering if this WTV fabric is similar to what Patagonia calls TechFace, which is actually a rebadged fabric called Stormfleece, which in turn is used by the Sport Pursuit-owned Rivelo cycling brand at a fraction of the Patagucci price. It sounds similar.
That yellow colour manages to be both gently hideous as well a thoroughly impractical for UK mountain biking, though I guess it’s not really aimed at UK winter gritfests.
amandawishartFull MemberI have several friends with these jackets and they seem to live in them. Emma Whitaker (Reyt Good Rides) didn’t take hers off on a two day bikepacking trip back in October – if she had I probably would have swiped it!
gazzab1955Full Member@BadlyWiredDog – that Stormfleece MTB jacket is currently on £39.99 (was £100) at Sports Pursuit, looks like a good buy. Also agree with you on the colour, but the black and blue versions look very plain and if you are on a road very dark.
@amandawishart – I am sure it’s a good top, but for £170 I would expect a little more on the practical side rather than just being a nice and warm material.iaincFull MemberI bought their outflow hoodie in the SportPursuit PSA the other week for about half the price of this one and think it’ll do a better job in most situations..😁
endoverendFull MemberYep, this is a modern techface type fleece… see also the Pontetorto fleeces used in Mountain Equipments Shroud/ Eclipse. These fabrics are a sweetspot for sure, so comfy and usually just about right for uk weather, though we may need more water resistance than this- I’m sure it would be good for both of the clear and dry days we’re allocated a year. These fabrics are more sustainable and more durable than most of the alternatives too, which should be a major consideration, if it’s not ‘ave a word with self. Colour possibly just the wrong side of mustard. May consider at half the asking price – but ideally would want no hood, swing front pocket round to the back, a touch more fitted…
grahamt1980Full MemberThe sportpursuit one is really good, but i think it is less insulated than the 7mesh one.
Still well recommended though especially at that priceiaincFull Member^^^ agree, and they are both 7mesh products, hard to see why they have brought out a new similar use one, but I guess that’s marketing for you 😁
The Outflow review seems to say they do pretty much the same thing :
https://off.road.cc/content/review/jackets/7mesh-outflow-primaloft-hoody-review-4117
1BadlyWiredDogFull Member@BadlyWiredDog – that Stormfleece MTB jacket is currently on £39.99 (was £100) at Sports Pursuit,
Tbf, I don’t think it has ever been £100 in real life. It was on SP for £50 until recently, but the only place it’s been priced at £100 is, I think, on the Rivelo brand site. In reality, like other SP brands, it’s effectively just sold through SP. The Fjern outdoor brand works similarly.
But yes, I tend to agree that stuff like this and Tech Face/Stormfleece – available in several weights, Patagonia call it Techface R1 and R2 – makes a lot of sense. I keep almost buying the SP version, but my vintage Rab VR Alpine is still going strong and, I suspect, does a similar gig.
matt_outandaboutFull MemberSome basics like being able to stow the hood and a warm hand warmer pocket are disappointing – but not surprising in MTB and cycling clothing. We seem to be led so much by fashion and specifications, not tested functionality.
I though that 7Mesh would be better than that…
LATFull MemberJust wondering if this WTV fabric is similar to what Patagonia calls TechFace,
when asked the difference between this and the patagonia r1 on pink bike, their answer was that it is more stretchy. there were other things said, but that sticks in my mind. i think i read somewhere that the 7mesh fabric is made by polartec
iaincFull Membermatt_outandabout
Full MemberSome basics like being able to stow the hood and a warm hand warmer pocket are disappointing – but not surprising in MTB and cycling clothing. We seem to be led so much by fashion and specifications, not tested functionality.
I though that 7Mesh would be better than that…
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REPLY | REPORTI have an Endura MT500 freeze point and it scores on both these points. I didn’t really need the Outflow but was a great deal for a spare !
nickcFull MemberSome basics like being able to stow the hood
y’know, I don’t think any of my mid-layers that have a hood have stowage for that hood, so it’s not just 7mesh I think
rOcKeTdOgFull Memberthat Stormfleece MTB jacket is currently on £39.99 (was £100) at Sports Pursuit,
I bought one last year and have just bought another, it was fine on this ride with two long sleeve baselayers
It’s windproof and light shower proof. I live in it on the bike this time of year. Hood is pretty intrusive too
BadlyWiredDogFull Memberwhen asked the difference between this and the patagonia r1 on pink bike, their answer was that it is more stretchy. there were other things said, but that sticks in my mind. i think i read somewhere that the 7mesh fabric is made by polartec
Copied from the comments on Pinkbike, this is what 7mesh said:
‘There are fabrics that look similar from the outside, but they’re not the same. (In fact our fabric isn’t even from the same maker as R1.) We worked directly with our partner to tune the construction for the performance we wanted, specifically high output riding in cooler temps. WTV has greater stretch than R1, and higher air permeability which is what helps so much with the comfort range. The backer on the inside of WTV has also had a brushed treatment which increases loft to maximize warmth despite the permeability. We find it hard to give solid advice on temperature ranges since people are so variable, but our testers were riding it as low as -10C in Sweden at high output (with a base layer) while in Squamish we’re riding up to say +10C before it becomes too warm while you’re working hard. Our staff have been wearing their WTVs on cooler evenings or mornings this summer, but really it comes into it’s own for Fall/Winter/Spring.’
I’m assuming btw, that they’re talking about R1 Techface, rather than regular R1, which is just a conventional fleece fabric. There’s also R2 Techface which is a heavier gauge fabric. Anyway, good to see a bike clothing brand using interesting fabrics.
LATFull Memberth he outflow is a very different jacket. sticking with the patagonia reference it’s more like the nano air than the R1.
someone mentioned they’d prefer a closer fitting chilco with pockets on the back, there is a road jersey made from this fabric that is essentially that. very road looking.
matt_outandaboutFull Membery’know, I don’t think any of my mid-layers that have a hood have stowage for that hood, so it’s not just 7mesh I think
Are they all hooded cycling tops?
Time was that every hooded top had at least a strip of fabric and wee velcro patch.
Now they all need to be 3 grammes lighter than the competition.
gbozo49Full MemberSo Chipps how does this jacket compare to the Albion insulated 3.0 or the Specialized Trail Alpha (the one that made you look like a tramp)? I managed to find the Alpha jacket on offer but I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on how the 3 of them compare?
didnthurtFull MemberDon’t other outdoor clothing companies offer different products with similar (or even the same) type of use?
I think it comes down to making similar products but from different materials.
ahsatFull MemberI have several friends with these jackets and they seem to live in them. Emma Whitaker (Reyt Good Rides) didn’t take hers off on a two day bikepacking trip back in October – if she had I probably would have swiped it!
You’d have to have wrestled it off me first… 😛 And hers is the more practical UK-friendly blue! (Annoying I think it would have fitted you better than me – haha!)
chippsFull MemberGood call @<span class=”bbp-author-name”>gbozo49</span> – I’ll dig them out and compare them for you. I’m glad you’ve been paying attention to our reviews. The WTV is definitely much better tailored than the Specialized Alpha, and the fabric feels ‘smarter’ and that it’ll survive abrasion and a bit of a rough life. The Spesh jacket is more of a fleecy liner and a windproof outer, whereas WTV is all in one, so it feels much more compact and snug. The Albion jacket by contrast is much more minimal (and feels a lot more shiny and nylony… The Albion jacket is probably a better call for a jacket you’d need to stow, and one that suits grey days in the UK. The WTV stuff needs some serious single digits for me not to overheat (though I do run warm – if you’re stopping more, on an e-bike or feel the cold, you’ll love it.)
Hope that helps fill in some gaps.
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