it’s annoying isn’t it – been following Carlton’s tweets this am and IAM aren’t backign down on it at all.

His point about the ‘60%’ figure being quoted in perpetuity as the ‘correct’ number of RLJing cyclists is a good one too.

its ok I have stw that article and just repeat this

And 43 per cent said they would be less likely to jump red lights if advanced stop lines were more strongly enforced
It the cars that make us do this for our own safety
that actual stats are
yes – 2.2%
Yes sometimes, 11.1%
Rarely – 23 %
Once or twice – 19.8 %
Never 43.9 %

Its like they have an agenda or an arts student doing the sats 😀

This may be abog city issue where there are lots of traffic jams it is not an issue where I live – cycling on the pavement is but as I point out this is just someoen who owns a bike not a cyclist

based on my commute i seem to be the only one that stops ….

most folk seem to think that cutting onto the pavement is an acceptable throughfare …..

Pretty much every set of lights I come to with a cyclist in front (whether I’m in car or on bike) the cyclist runs the red, drives me nuts. Seen so many near accidents.

We had to do this yesterday (on a tiny backstreet, there were no cars at either end), I also had to bail onto the pavement at another set of temp lights because the timing was set up for 30mph cars not 15mph bikes and I would have been flattened if I carried on down the narrow barriered roadworks lane.

Which raises the question: how many cyclists would jump reds if junction designers ever considered the needs of cyclists when laying stuff out and working out timings, etc? It seems to me that most cyclist/motorist friction occurs because we have to fit into a system that doesn’t make any sensible allowance for our presence whatsoever.

It’s being worked into most new junctions but there are thousands of old designs which cost a fortune to re-time I believe, so don’t hold your breath.

Bit stuffed then I guess!

Not surprised by that figure really, even if the question had been ‘regularly jump red lights’. I’d say at least 60% of the people commuting by bike through the south side of Glasgow jump red lights. I’m not one of them.

I’d say the figures are about right.

When I’m in pack mentality in That London I’d say the figure is correct, if you segregate Boris Bikes I’d say the figure is about 90%.
If you add in “riding down a oneway the wrong way” then BorisBike’ets will account for 98% of that population.

Different matter in rural Hants though.

It happens all the time, but it’s different in that cars tag onto the end of streams of traffic and cross when the lights have changed, so you don’t notice it so much. I suppose it’s not quite as dangerous, but that has to be at least in part because it’s so normal it’s expected. Still, I’ve seen near misses a couple of times where someone a bit keen who knows the timings has set off on red-amber whilst two or three cars have carried on through on red behind a bus or lorry going slower than expected.

I find it much safer to take my position as a piece of traffic and stay in my position in a queue rather than go to the front. I just don’t agree that ASLs are safer, a) they put you back in front of someone who just overtook you and b) that cheeses them off and makes them dive past you dangerously again and c) you risk getting first impact from the morons who RLJ. Much like cycle lanes I feel they’re a nod towards placating cyclists without actually identifying how they function in practice, especially when not universally applied.

Coffeeeking – even if it means sitting thru several cycles of the lights? actually if the cars didn’t bother overtaking you they would end up in the same place in the next traffic queue usually

I think its a tiny minority of car drivers who drive legally – =obeying speed limits and leaving enough space for cyclists along with illegal parking and using bus lanes are the main issues

https://www.iam.org.uk/cyclist

Which makes this all the more baffling?! I for one look forward to cycling being more enjoyable and safer after this inflammatory piece of shonky research hit the press 🙁

Yeah, so….

I see motorists jumping red lights very single day. This morning I saw 2 double decker buses jumping properly turned red lights, and at the 127 sets of traffic lights I pass on my commute each way at all of the red lights there were always cars or motorbikes in the advanced stop box. Tbh when I get there and find a motor vehicle sitting in the box I keep going as its actually not safe to stop as a cyclist.
Oh, and thanks to the ignorant bitch driving an Audi estate who pulled out right across me as I was riding at just under 30 mph onto the Wandsworth one way system this morning. Just think next time that you’re not going to get away from an angry cyclist in London unless you run red lights as well – although she did drop her mobile phone when I turned up at the next set of red lights and hammered on her window.