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  • 2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2-2+2 x 0?
  • ransos
    Free Member

    Many here have argued that those who get the wrong answer don’t know how to use a calculator. Then we discover that different calculators work in different ways. All I’m saying is that it’s a little less simple than claimed.

    akysurf
    Free Member

    y=2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2-2+2a
    where a=0
    y=2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2-2+(2*0)

    y=26

    emsz
    Free Member

    I wasn’t offering to strip for £20, I did a life class and got £20 for expenses. 🙄

    They gave me a white robe to put on and a cup of tea half way through, it was all v. civilized 😀

    DezB
    Free Member

    Hmm. Maths is dumb. If you have something and then multiple it by nothing, then how can the something that you had suddenly become nothing? Where’s the logic in that?

    The logic is that to multiply by zero means to take it all away. Duh!

    (sorry, only read the first page)

    Cougar
    Full Member

    £20 for still life? How much for you to move about a bit?

    (-:

    akysurf
    Free Member

    thankfully the question isn’t:
    2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2-2+2 / 0

    which = infinity

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    £20 for still life? How much for you to move about a bit?

    Disgusting. 😡

    Typical STW ‘Camera Club’ members:

    Eeuuuwwrrghh. Makes me skin crawl. Dirty bastards. 😡

    nedrapier
    Full Member

    All I’m saying is that it’s a little less simple than claimed.

    Only a very little bit less simple, though: those getting the wrong answer from a calculator don’t know how to use that calculator.

    alpin
    Free Member

    really…. WTF does it matter?

    no-one would write that down unless they were a bit of a pillock (can you say pillock here?) and wanted to wave their mathematical willy.

    i deal with numbers everyday in my job as a carpenter. i have to add and subtract, multiply and divide daily and consider myself resonable at maths.

    if truth be told maths is bollox when you start with the whole BODMAS stuff. it’s just stuff that has literally been made up – bit like religions in that sense.

    i’d say that over 99% of the population would never come into contact with that sort of sum during their lives. and if they did they would answer 0 because as we all know anything multiplied by zero is 0….

    juan
    Free Member

    if truth be told maths is bollox when you start with the whole BODMAS stuff. it’s just stuff that has literally been made up – bit like religions in that sense.

    Well that’s math for you. To use math is a bit like to drive a car, they are rules to follow.

    i’d say that over 99% of the population would never come into contact with that sort of sum during their lives. and if they did they would answer 0 because as we all know anything multiplied by zero is 0….

    Well it probably means 99% of people are morons who never listen in class. You learn about the rules when you’re 12.

    And as for the calculator, math/physics teachers would tell you do get one that abide for the standard rules of mathematics.

    For the record I said 26 too… Dr geek in computational science here.

    alpin
    Free Member

    no juan, they’re not morons.

    do you remember everything you were told at school? we retain information that we find interesting or useful to us.

    how useful is it to know that the equation equals 26? surely if you do find that useful then you’ll be using it on a daily basis.

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    Well it probably means 99% of people are just normal and get on with their lives instead of worrying about the order of useless things and boring maffs stuff.

    FTFY….

    akysurf
    Free Member

    i’d say that over 99% of the population would never come into contact with that sort of sum during their lives

    Thankfully that leaves the remaining few (1%), some of whom may have the ability to apply it for the benefit of the 99%, for example, as a probabolistic design tool to understand the design space for such things as carpentry power tools to ensure the product is safe, effective and reliable.

    _tom_
    Free Member

    Well it probably means 99% of people are just normal and get on with their lives instead of worrying about the order of useless things and boring maffs stuff.

    Yeah. Theres too much smuggery (may not be a word) in this thread.

    hilldodger
    Free Member

    Take any single specialist skill, knowledge or technique and 99% of the population would be oblivious to it’s significance and incapable of it’s execution – doesn’t mean it’s useless though does it ?
    The disingenuous “maffs is for losers innit” comments are so reminiscent of people who boast they can’t put together a flat pack cupboard, don’t ‘get’ art and haven’t read a book since they left school; rather than admit they’re unskilled/uneducated in that particular skillset they wear their ignorance as some kind of ‘badge of pride’ and sneer at those who can.

    When possession of specialist skills or knowledge makes you the object of derision it reminds that a wise man once told me the curse of the modern age was something he called “the conspiracy of mediocracy”

    🙄

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    Smugnitude = An overwhelming, huge amount of smugness.

    probabolistic

    Do what? 😕

    When banging on about something that’s a load of cobblers and has no actual relevance in the Real World just to try to sound clever makes you the object of derision it reminds what a complete waste of time being a swot really was.

    FTFY…

    hilldodger
    Free Member

    Elfish = a complete inability to recognise the value of something that doesn’t conform to your own compromised world view, innit

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    Listen sunshine; when you can even comprehend a fraction of the World of Elf, then you’ll have attained a level of enlightenment most will never experience, and can only ever dream of.

    I can help guide you, but you must learn to see for yourself, not be blinkered by the foolishness and choopidness of others….

    akysurf
    Free Member

    Do what?

    let me reach out: check it on wiki innit

    DrJ
    Full Member

    i’d say that over 99% of the population would never come into contact with that sort of sum during their lives. and if they did they would answer 0 because as we all know anything multiplied by zero is 0….

    You are probably right – which makes it depressing to think that our democratic system gives a majority vote to a group of people lacking the education or reasoning faculty to make a logical decision.

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    U mite now maffs but yor spelins rubbish m8. 😉

    hilldodger
    Free Member

    which makes it depressing to think that our democratic system gives a majority vote to a group of people lacking the education or reasoning faculty to make a logical decision.

    …but does explain the low quality and standards of government we have 😡

    DenDennis
    Free Member

    PMSL that this thread is still giving!
    so many IT/computing bods on here and a subject close to heart.
    of course its only due to the existence of those troll-ass spaces in the original ‘sum’ that we are beyond page one.

    lets just imagine that the last two digits were 1. all sides would be happy! 😀

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    Yeah but it’s good to have a nice argue now and then, innit? 🙂

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Yeah but it’s good to have a nice argue now and then, innit?

    No it isn’t.

    (-:

    do you remember everything you were told at school?

    Good gravy. It’s not like it’s some obscure fact from third year History about who the third cousin twice removed of Alfred the Great was; it’s basic, basic stuff.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    The disingenuous “maffs is for losers innit” comments are so reminiscent of people who boast they can’t put together a flat pack cupboard, don’t ‘get’ art and haven’t read a book since they left school; rather than admit they’re unskilled/uneducated in that particular skillset they wear their ignorance as some kind of ‘badge of pride’ and sneer at those who can.

    This, good god, this ^2. I hear that a lot in my job, “I don’t know anything about computers, me” all smug and proud, when they’re a gorram secretary or accountant for a living. It’s like a taxi driver without a driving licence, “I don’t know anything about cars, aren’t I clevar.” Well done.

    Different people have different skills and abilities, and I understand that. There’s plenty of stuff that’s a complete mystery to me (chemistry for one, baffles the crap out of me). But please, please don’t be telling me you’re pig ignorant of something whilst you’ve got a self-fulfilled grin on your face like it’s something you’ve worked hard to be proud of.

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    No it isn’t.

    Yes (it is)! 😀

    Cougar
    Full Member

    That’s not an argument, it’s just contradiction!

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    if truth be told maths is bollox when you start with the whole BODMAS stuff….
    i’d say that over 99% of the population would never come into contact with that sort of sum during their lives.

    Whit? . You never have to do maths?

    5 x £1 + 4 x 20p? How much is that? Oh look you just used that “whole BODMAS stuff” that no one uses. 🙄

    Cougar
    Full Member

    5 x £1 + 4 x 20p? How much is that? Oh look you just used that “whole BODMAS stuff” that no one uses

    Fish and chips twice, please.

    (You’re right, but you’re cherry picking.)

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    Now do it 5×1+4×0.2

    1.8

    5.8

    5

    😕

    Question: why do you maffs geeks find it so important to be ‘right’ on this, and to be ‘superior’ to others? Are you quite insecure? Does being a geek make you feel a bit inferior to others, to the extent you feel the need to compensate by out-clevering others and claiming they’re thick?

    Just that that’s how you’re coming across tbh.

    v8ninety
    Full Member

    Gnome has the answer

    Its 42, apparently.

    _tom_
    Free Member

    5 x £1 + 4 x 20p

    What normal person thinks in equations like this when sorting their coins though? I just sort my coins into individual piles and add them up. Maybe I’m just thick though.

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    (You’re right, but you’re cherry picking.)

    I’m allowed to 😀 he said it was bollox and 99% of the population never use.
    I’m just trying to demonstrate that in fact most people use it all the time but just don’t realise it.

    stumpyjon
    Full Member

    5.8

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    What normal person thinks in equations like this when sorting their coins though?

    How do you count the coins in your pocket?

    If I’ve got five pound coins I go £1 x 5 = £5.

    Is that unusual?

    funkynick
    Full Member

    It’s got nothing to do with being superior to others… that just comes naturally.. 😉

    It’s because in maths, exactness is important, and that is easily seen by the original question and differing answers. It’s because there is a definite right answer, and that by trying to explain it to those who do not understand, that maybe they will learn something…

    Learning stuff is always good… I learn new stuff every day…

    _tom_
    Free Member

    I individually count how many I have. This is a moot point anyway as I never have that much change on me 😆

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    You’re right Tom. Any sensible normal person would just count up what they had ion their pocket/moneybox/purse/coppers jar. I spose if you were sorting through different coinage you might ‘bracket’ them according to value, but that’s about it I spose. I see where Graham’s going with that, but it does not in any way justify or back up his claims for twenty six as opposed to zero.

    I think what it is, they can’t admit there’s different ways of doing stuff, and that normal people would do the sum in a logical fashion, rather than dreaming up brackets an ting.

    ‘Ooh I’m an engineer’ yeah but your wife is thirty six and from Holland. 😐

    Work that one out then, geeks! Ha! You weren’t expecting that, were you? Where’s your maffs now come save you, eh?

    And here we go, here we go-

    BOSH!

    I can’t see them coming back from that one. 😀

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    5.8

    Not if you don’t use BODMAS. If you do it left to right then it is

    5 x £1 + 4 x 20p

    = 5 x 100p + 4 x 20p
    = 500 + 4 x 20
    = 504 x 20
    = 10080p

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