So did Phil Sackey 8)

With all due; the English backs have looked disjointed in the two games so far. Englands best hope is to use their vastly superior back row to choke the life out of the Blacks backs….Oh wait… 😛

Bring back Clive Norling! 🙂

However, Nige is the man!

I think that’s actually being quite kind. 9-10-12 plainly isn’t working, the problem is, seems like they won’t change it.
I’m very encouraged by the pack but there’s nothing behind it. The ABs will rip 12T and Tomkins apart.

Barrett is good defensively, but I think other than against the AB’s (and I can only assume they didn’t bother to mark him as it’s never happened before!), he’s never broken the line before and any rare ball that Fazlet gets out to him, dies in his arms. Kind of makes anyone decent outside of him pointless.
I haven’t watched Burrell, but will keep my eyes open.

And that’s the real frustration with Lancaster, I’m 100% behind the pick on form, however he doesn’t apply it. Youngs is not playing great for Tigers, Fazlet is the 2nd best English flyhalf at Saracens, 12T was playing very well last season, Tomkins I’ll admit I’m don’t know, Ashton is pathetically poor, I’ll be buggered if I can remember the other wing, but he’s a fullback and I reckon that the fullback’s actually playing very well.
The packs about the best we have, minus a couple of injuries, and I can see Graham Rowntree’s work there, but they’ll be matched by the all blacks, while the backs rip us apart.
At least Wales entertain while they loose!

How on earth did the Ashton try get given? Unbelievable.

The thing that amazes me most about Tips is that he’d probably be much better on the wing than any of the wings that have started for England this Autumn 🙁

Having disturbing images of AA in a cheer leader outfit with pom poms shouting give me an A, give me an S give me an H. . . . . . . .

That may give Darcy the strangest . . . . .

It is about the dynamics of STW

AA is the self appointed rugby expert on here who is sucked up to by most people, and thinks he has “an understanding of rugby” which is greater than everyone else’s.
A large proportion of the other participants are also Non England supporters, the remainder are made up of England supporters who dare not argue with the great AA as he has more clever sounding phrases in his armoury.
A few are idiots like me who waste their breath trying to counter the PoMo rubbish that is spouted on here about Rugby.

Thus anti English/pro Wales sentiment is strong here.

If you look at the statistics, England win more games on the world stage than Wales, so in theory are better, but Wales can raise their game against England through bitterness or something, (and probably intimidate the little rose somehow) but seem to be unable to regularly bottle this feeling and use it elsewhere.
There is also the size of the pool to consider. England should be about 100 times better than Wales as our population is 100 times bigger, so that makes us especially crap and Wales especially good pro rata (which is true I agree with this)

So your assertions

Are only true if you believe them.

I think in general England are better than Wales, as is proven on the world stage. Your opinion may differ.

the rest comes down to minority effects much like racism, Wales can hate England as we oppressed them in the past, we cannot hate Wales as that would be racist. Thus whilst I believe it is a fact that if England or Wales lose it is because they are shite, but you cannot berate Wales for losing as it is always England’s fault, even if they lose to Fiji.

(I’m invoking the Edinburgh defence in advance, whilst I believe all of the above to be true, nobody deserves to die over a game of rugby, so please do not come and burn my house down in the name of Owain Glyndwr I am just putting the banter out there OK…)

errr no they are not 😆

Is AA an expert? Are any of us experts, I just enjoy watching the game and having some banter about it.

I do agree in part about beating england, for me it is hard wired into my DNA for the Kiwis and Australians I have spoken to it is a range of reasons, Not sure the Irish Scottish or South Africans are that bothered, a win is a win.

I could be wrong.

I do agree in part about beating england, for me it is hard wired into my DNA for the Kiwis and Australians I have spoken to it is a range of reasons, Not sure the Irish Scottish or South Africans are that bothered, a win is a win.

The SAs hate England just as much as anyone else judging by a NZ v Eng game I watched in Cape Town a few years ago. I was genuinely surprised by the vociferous support of NZ.

I’m in scotland right now, and they hate us more than the welsh I can assure you. In Wales its piss taking and abuse, in scotland its actual death..

You English boys don’t really understand the Welsh ‘hatred’ thing do you? It’s not hatred at all, but it would take too long to explain it, and would take the thread too far away from rugby.

By the way, as to A_A being an expert, didn’t I read on here that he’s only about 26? Or did I make that up?

These threads* have made me derive more satisfaction from Wales losing than England losing. I’d never have thought that possible. 🙂

*and Gatling.

Toys; you are zokes in disguise and I claim my £10.

I don’t support Andy Murray just because he’s British, don’t support Lewis Hamilton just because he’s British, don’t support the English cricket team just because they’re British. Why on earth would I support the English rugby team just because they’re near to where I live? That’s as irrational as hating them for the same reason! 😉

Reading that back ^^^^^^ it doesn’t quite make sense in the way I hoped! I meant ‘I don’t support ****** ONLY because…’ if that makes any more sense? 🙄 🙂

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I don’t hate the Welsh. I do however hate a_a 😀

I love these debates!!!

Ok, I can understand that.

Arrogant **********’!!!!! 😉

Rare that I feel sorry for AA! C’mon guys he does do some great gifs.

It’s the Orangemen that have to play in green that I feel sorry for. There’s an identity crisis for you. 😀

Very true IJ

Yes, probably very true.

Arrogant *************. My nationality and heritage is important. 😉