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  • 1up EDC tool
  • ayjaydoubleyou
    Full Member

    Anyone have one of these? It looks like the nicest of the on bike tools from my unscientific internet research.

    I have two bikes
    Do I go for the headset install (1 tool, 2 headsets, installation threading kit), and keep my current perfectly adequate lezyne frame mounted pump

    Or get the pump to go with it (1 tool, 1 pump, extra pump mount bracket) and have it frame mounted?

    honourablegeorge
    Full Member

    I have it, and have the top caps on 3 bikes – whenever I grab a bike, the obvious hole in the top cap reminds me to grab the tool, so I’m never without it. Have it with the little tubeless plug addon and find it really convenient.

    Having said that – the pump is really good, one of the best pumps going, so if you need a pump anywhay, it’s a great option. If you have a perfectly good pump, maybe go with top cap mount.

    ta11pau1
    Full Member

    I have the pump on my gravel bike mounted to the frame, and the stem on my MTB. Tool gets transferred across to whatever is being ridden.

    I only carry a pump on longer rides when I take a full backpack, have a CO2 on the oneup tool, plus 2 CO2’s and an inflator in my frame strap on the MTB, so I’d have to be very unlucky to need a pump on a 1-2 hour ride.

    nixie
    Full Member

    I have one and the pump. Bought mine second hand and did have some pump issues. These seem to have been sorted with replacement o-rings (easy to change). I did start with the tool in the pump but have just moved it to steerer mounted using the stem (still carrying the pump, planning to store other stuff in there).

    The stem mount I’m not so sure about, the special (plastic) spacers keep coming off when I remove the tool which is a pain. When I get some lower rise bars I’ll be mounting the top cap direct to the metal stem. The stem itself is nice.

    I’m planning to fit my second bike with a threaded cap top avoid the cost of a second stem (and expensive preloader). The tool itself works fine though why they didn’t put little magnets in to hold the spares links I’m not sure (electrical tape solves this).

    If you have any bikes with blue bits I’ve a brand new blue threaded top cap to sell. Bought for the bike that now has a stem on it before discovering the steerer was the wrong size. Doesn’t go with the bike I’m going to thread.

    On that point check your steerer is compatible before ordering!

    ta11pau1
    Full Member

    A dab of grease on the chain pins helps them stay in place.

    And make sure the rings are well lubed or they can get a little sticky when inserting and removing your tool.

    The pre-loader is OK, can work loose sometimes and getting it set with enough downward press at the same time as keeping the bars straight, is a dark art!

    nixie
    Full Member

    The pre-loader is OK, can work loose sometimes and getting it set with enough downward press at the same time as keeping the bars straight, is a dark art!

    Especially on an integrated headset that falls apart as as soon as you look at it!

    Good point on the rings, mine are a bit dry.

    mashr
    Full Member

    If the stem or steering stuff puts people off, this seems to be the best alternative now:

    https://www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/equipment/bike-accessories/bike-tools-maintenance/bontrager-bits-integrated-mtb-tool/p/26826/

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    I liked mine so much, that I’ve got one fitted to the other bike as well.

    As for threading the steerer, I think it’s a far more elegant solution than smashing a start nut down there. If they made a blind version of the preload cap I think I’d be threading all my steerers.

    ayjaydoubleyou
    Full Member

    Thanks for the thoughts guys… I’m still undecided though.

    I’m not scared of threading my steerer, but I am worried about getting my stem on correctly and tightly.

    It seems like a waste to buy a pump when I have one, but it comes out cheaper than two top caps and a tap kit. Plus no installation time.

    How does the pump hold up to being on the downtube over winter with mud flying around?

    Does anyone with the little storage tube know if a pair of E4 brake pads will fit inside?

    nixie
    Full Member

    @mashr, expect Trek has missed a trick by not offering the holder as a spare (I asked, they said not going to happen).

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    I don’t use the storage tube. I use a Fork Cork and store useful stuff from the bottom. CO2 adaptor, emergency money, bit of tissue and a Stanley blade in tape.

    teethgrinder
    Full Member

    E4 pads don’t fit but easy enough to tape onto cables.

    As for the tap kit, plenty on here, including me, have them and will lend them out (I will).

    Bagstard
    Free Member

    I have the granite stash multi tool, probably not as good as the EDC, but it does the job, I’ve used it plenty in the few months I’ve had it. Easy to fit, but doubt you can get a spare capsule for a second bike?! Also have the EDC pump, it is pretty well sealed to the elements, but time will tell. Granite tyre plugs and chain tool in the bar ends, not had to use them yet, be they seem decent enough.

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    Isn’t the Granite tag line something like

    “Still searching for an original idea if our own”?

    erictwinge
    Free Member

    i have the tool in my headset but not the pump. its probably my favourite upgrades ever.

    use it with the storage capsule with some slugs, spare valve core, valve key, couple of small cable ties and the emergency tenner.

    i have a pair of C02 (one with inflator) strapped to frame and a tubeless stabber thing in my bars.

    Rockplough
    Free Member

    And make sure the rings are well lubed or they can get a little sticky when inserting and removing your tool.

    We’re just letting this slide are we?

    citizenlee
    Free Member

    We’re just letting this slide are we?

    With enough lube, yes.

    reeksy
    Full Member

    I threaded two bikes steerer tubes the borrowed a pump from someone and was so impressed I bought the pump. Then got a new bike and haven’t bothered threading that. I agree it’s a better system than a star nut.

    After a year of all weather riding the pump still works great… Although the paint has seen better days. Pump won’t fall out, even after the rubber clip breaks off.

    Tool doesn’t like the weather as much. It has surface corrosion and seized up. I’ve sprayed some lanolin lube on it so all good now, cosmetic only.
    For some reason the reusable 11s chainlinks sit really loosely in it, so i lost those. Previously used one-use links seem to stay in better.

    jimdubleyou
    Full Member

    I have the 100cc pump + tool.

    First pump had to go back as it somehow broke a seal and wouldn’t pump air. Replacement came back fairly quick from a German site so happy with that.

    Having been bitten by a broken pump though, I’m bit nervous about only going with that as means of inflation…

    momo
    Full Member

    Glad it’s not just me who’s managed to break the rubber clip then!

    I’ve had the tool for a couple of years now, haven’t had to use it too often thankfully. Just be aware that it’s a very short/compact tool so you’re never going to generate a lot of torque with it, I haven’t (touchwood) had to use the chain tool at all.

    I bought the pump as the steerer on my old bike wasn’t long enough to insert the tool into, so glad I did, far and away the best mini(ish) pump I’ve ever used!

    ayjaydoubleyou
    Full Member

    Tool doesn’t like the weather as much. It has surface corrosion and seized up. I’ve sprayed some lanolin lube on it so all good now, cosmetic only.

    Was this from living in the pump, or the steerer?

    reeksy
    Full Member

    @ayjaydoubleyou it was in the pump. I live in the sub tropics though.

    Have used the chain tool. Works well.

    hooli
    Full Member

    I am tempted by one of these, I’ve recently enjoyed riding without a pack but the stuffed pockets are not ideal either. The other option was a small frame bag but haven’t found anything suitable yet.

    Spesh do a tool too, it’s a bit more expensive but you don’t need the tool to thread the steerer. Looks like you could possibly tape some tubeless repair anchovies/tool to it too?

    https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/swat-conceal-carry-mtb-tool/p/157285?color=&searchText=53218-1170

    mashr
    Full Member

    Spesh do a tool too

    If you like that one, check out the Bonty one above. Very similar but include a chain tool too (and more tools iirc)

    ayjaydoubleyou
    Full Member

    As far as I can tell, the spesh and the bonty one both look like I’d have to buy one per bike. Also possibly a faff to change between the two if my steerer length isnt the same, and not possible to ride the bike without anything in there?

    hooli
    Full Member

    and not possible to ride the bike without anything in there

    My understanding is that you use the tool to preload the bearings before tightening the stem bolts. Once these are done up then the tool can be removed. Obviously if you need to undo and redo the stem bolts then you need the tool.

    The spesh one has a chain breaker too but you do need to remove the whole unit to use it.

    kiwijohn
    Full Member

    I’m sold on them.
    Started with a 70cc pump & tool until a new frame & fork made it worthwhile to get the steerer kit.
    Now I have a nang in the pump & the plug stabber & pliers in the storage container. Used the plugger last week & it worked a treat with a preloaded plug out ready to go in seconds.
    Well worth the price.

    CalamityJames
    Free Member

    I have one on my (only) bike and it’s fantastic. It is a little pricey once you add it all up, but you can resell the tap kit and once it’s in you’ll be forever grateful to not have a tool etc in your pocket.

    I’ve ordered some new forks for a new build and it’s one of the first things I purchased.

    erictwinge
    Free Member

    the tyre lever is a p.o.s tho… snapped that first and only time i attempted to use it! cost £15 for a new carcass!

    Milese
    Free Member

    I notice that there is now a V2 of the tool that has some changes, perhaps these address some of the problems discussed above?

    NEW FOR 2020

    Easier to remove from your bike, with a lower friction design.
    Updated Chain Breaker is easier to use and has a steel body for increased durability
    Stronger steel Spoke Keys
    Black Multi-Tool
    Tubeless plug jabber cover (Small storage capsule)

    EDC V2 TOOL

    I had decided to get one steerer mounted, but have since decided that for pretty much the same money I can also get a decent new pump. I can mount the pump on the bottle bosses, and then whip it off to go in my jersey pocket when I go on my road bike. One less thing to take on the road bike too then.

    Any thoughts on whether the 70 or 100cc pump is better? I think the 100cc one is that bit too long at 10″, but having the storage capsule would be useful. Does the smaller one work ok?

    reeksy
    Full Member

    For MTB tyres the 100cc is great.

    nixie
    Full Member

    Typical. I finally buy one and they update it 🙄.

    jamesgarbett
    Free Member

    Anywhere got the pump in stock?

    Bagstard
    Free Member

    I went for the 70cc pump as it’s only for emergency use, still has room for a Co2 cartridge, a few cable ties etc inside.

    jamesgarbett
    Free Member

    Thanks nixie

    So if i get the 100cc pump the EDC 2 tool and the plug plier kit all fits inside the pump which attaches to the bottle cage mounts?

    nixie
    Full Member

    Yeap, with some space to spare in the pump.

    Milese
    Free Member

    With the 70cc pump will the following combinations work:

    EDC + co2 canister + chain links

    Or

    EDC + space for small jabber (not the EDC one) + chain links

    woots787
    Free Member

    I have the v1 tool in a 70cc pump with homemade jabber and anchovies. Chain links fit in the tool. Would be great if they sold the v2 small capsule separately.

    panzerjager
    Free Member

    I went with the tool & pump to start with but recently bought the EDC stem too.

    The stem isn’t the most elegant thing in the world, its chunkier & heavier than the Race Face Turbine it replaced & the preloader is PITA, especially as I need to turn my bars to fit it onto my rack.

    Add to that the fact that I also can’t mount my Garmin over the stem, as the the mount now won’t fit with the plastic spacers.

    I’m hoping they’ll release an oval bung to fit the new Fox 38s & maybe a Garmin mount to fit the spacers, otherwise I’ll be selling the stem & going back to keeping it in the pump.

    Can’t fault the pump or the tool though, they’ve been faultless.

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