Nova; OMM Kamleika ticks those boxes.
New park run opened near me this year. Finally got along.
Crathes castle park run is my localist one.
It started slow to which I'm thinking eh what do these folk all know.
Ran down the only bit of tarmac on the route. Turned right into the woods. Turned right again and boom we are battering up ankle deep in places slippy muddy 3/4km hill.
Winner runs a 17min park run normally at other local events he ran a 20.10
Came in 10th with 24:10.
Also day #7 of marcothon. And today's was done with Eilidh in the buggy
Ha, no worries @Nobeerinthefridge
Intention is to keep increasing mileage and hope the pace comes with it. Seeing slight improvements already.
After doing my first (one and so far, only) half marathon a few months back in Cardiff with a 1:57, as a 50 year old I've just gone for the ballot for the snowdonia marathon, as my first marathon.
Am I mad? The phrase I see most often is "brutal", though tbh reading what half of what you lot are up to it should be a walk in the park for some of you..
Any tips (assuming I get in which obviously I may not)? It's late October so plenty of training time.
Got my first trail race (Night Nobbler) this coming saturday, then next half in early Jan in E.London, and plan the Preselli Beast Bach and whatever takes my fancy next year, plus a few cycling events.
Quite enjoying running tbh. Who'd have thought it?
I’ve just gone for the ballot for the snowdonia marathon, as my first marathon.
Me too! Not my first marathon, but my first hilly one. Really hoping I get in.
Another newbie (nearly 50) here...
Currently running 10k fairly regularly, my first half will be Alloa in March, then Mhor half in June and my first full marathon - Run Mhor - in August. Not sure if that's too ambitious, but will just be running everything to 'get round' rather than aiming for a time. My training for the marathon will start after Alloa half, with the Mhor half just giving me a taste of the Mhor route... Presently using Garmin coach training plan for the half.
Again any tips useful 🙂
Sorry if this has been covered before but does anyone have recommendations for a running jacket. Looking for something as breathable as possible but will keep the rain out for a couple of hours if need be
Running jackets are rated by water resistance + breathability, a decent jacket will have at least 10,000/10,000 rating. There are loads out there, I've got Ternua jacket (a quality Spanish brand), no idea if it's available in the UK.
Suggestions here: https://www.northernrunner.com/blog/the-best-waterproof-running-jackets/
Personally I'd get the Innov-8, it's a British brand and has a good reputation.
Edit: should say that's just the first link I found searching for "trail running jacket 10000", other sites are available. And also Raidlight is a good brand, albeit French not British.
in other news today was a public holiday in Spain, so to make the most of it 3 mates and I went up a local mountain. Damn it was cold, very windy at the top - almost to the point of getting blown over. Lots of snow and ice too, thankfully I'd remembered to pack my crampons. Good laugh though 🙂
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a decent jacket will have at least 10,000/10,000 rating
I find jackets with that kind of breathability really struggle with runner levels of sweat. Be fine for occasional use or to pass race kit check but for regular or extended use there are plenty of fabrics that do better.
I find jackets with that kind of breathability really struggle with runner levels of sweat. Be fine for occasional use or to pass race kit check but for regular or extended use there are plenty of fabrics that do better.
Oh, definitely. 10,000 is a minimum, but as I have no idea of the budget...
Can I ask a shoe question?
Has anyone tried the Salomon Sense Ride 2's?
I'm looking for a winter shoe which can handle a 50:50 mix of pavement and very wet and sliddery muddy parkruns/bridleways.
The Sense Ride 2 looks close enough to Speedcross type grip with some cushioning - does anyone have any experience with them, or better suggestions?
I find jacket ratings to be a load of shite.
I have an outdry TDMB jacket that doesn't "breath" yet it has been the best running jacket I've had in terms of being sweaty.
Anyone know any good routes starting from kenmore up to about 10k ?
Has anyone had any experience with using trainasone app for a first time marathon?
I find jacket ratings to be a load of shite.
Say what you mean Terry! 😂
I'd agree btw, you wonder where some of their figures come from.
I find jacket ratings to be a load of shite.
It's a decent starting point though.
I’d agree btw, you wonder where some of their figures come from.
I don't for one minute think they're accurate but in my experience the jackets I've had with higher numbers breathed better and vice versa.
Anyone know any good routes starting from kenmore up to about 10k ?
Loch Tay Kenmore? Up the road toward Amulree and back? Savage climb on a bike, that.
On the jacket front, my Gore Active Shell has been amazing. Incredibly light and thin, incredibly breathable, fully waterproof. Not cheap, but has had pretty much daily use for about 6 months of the year for a couple of years now.
On the running front, I've been finding my lower abs have been getting absolutely trashed recently. I tried to do a partial situp while measuring the inside of my chimney and just couldn't, was just left in a world of pain. Coughing while running has been particularly unpleasant too. Not sure what's causing this, not something I've encountered in the past...
Am I the only one who's never really got on with jackets? Maybe I sweat to much, maybe I've not found the right one, but I've never really felt the need.
If it's raining I get wet, both from sweat and the rain.
if it's cold then I wear a baselayer to suit.
Running jackets - been using of one of those new North Face Futurelight running jackets for the last couple of months. Really like it but two caveats - firstly, I didn't pay anywhere near full price so that obviously impacts on my view of "value". Secondly, I don't think any fully waterproof jacket is breathable enough for coping with the amount of sweat generated when running.
The Futurelight is good, but not perfect. I did 5k this morning in about 6 degrees, dry-ish and breezy with just a t-shirt underneath. Fine around the body where I was wearing t-shirt, but definitely condensation against my bare arms. Really waterproof though, plus lightweight, comfortable etc. I've got a much lighter Inov-8 windproof / showerproof jacket I'll normally wear if it's not raining too heavily. Much more breathable but much less waterproof.
Ambient conditions play a big part in how breathable a jacket is - if it's warm and humid outside, then it doesn't matter how breathable your jacket is, it will sweat up inside. Conversely, if it's cool and dry, water vapour will penetrate the membrane very easily. Something to bear in mind if you don't think your jacket is breathing as it should.
I've certainly had occasions where I've sweated heavily with short sleeves on under my jacket, and it being bone dry inside, apart from in the chest pocket, where a credit card iirc got very wet, as it provided a barrier to the escaping vapour.
Re Salomon sense ride - I have them (in v1) and use them exactly for what you described (50/50 terrain).
The tread is fairly shallow so ok but not great in mud. I also have inov8 trailroc 285 that I use for similar purposes (feels lighter) and brooks cascadia (more burly).
Kenmore - right beside the Rob Roy way, could do a bit of that to the falls of acharn then up to the south around the hill. A loop of Drummond hill to the north would be about 10k too. If you can extend distance to 20k and can handle a good amount of ascent there's loads of stuff to explore in the area
Turbo: I started coughing badly when running. Two puffs on the inhaler sort me out before a run. You might have fractured a rib or something.
This pain is much lower, almost down to my pubic bone, can't quite put my finger on when it started, but it's becoming rather debilitating 🙁
It's strange, 11 months ago I was happily banging out 100 mile weeks while I'm struggling with even half that at the moment. Legs just feel pretty much wrecked after most runs on top of my ruined abs....
If you are running their is likely no such thing as a breathable jacket. The perspiration will always be higher than the jacket can get rid of meaning you will eventually be wet inside it. I have tried most fabrics, including GoreTex and Event.
The trick is to keep moving and a good non waterproof jacket will keep the wind off your chest which is the main thing.
Aye, what he said.
Most of my runs in inclement weather feature my £11 decathlon shell, it's not hugely waterproof but with a tight LS baselayer below keeps me from getting too cool from wind and wet.
Only time I'll wear a proper waterproof is on days running summits/ridges, even at that it has huge pit vents, but can be closed down and hood up if I get hurt or hemmed in by the weather.
I'm using Decathlon's 50 quid trail shoes for 50/50 trail/cement roads. Don't want to be wearing the knobs off of anything expensive.
So how's everyone's YTD going? I started running almost a year ago (boxing day was my last bike ride), had the full gamut of injuries (couldn't even walk for most of September), did some fell races, trail races including a marathon and even a parkrun, clicked over 2000km a while back and reached 80,000m of climbing yesterday. Might ease off for the next couple of weeks and ride a bit, but it's been an interesting year. Still dog slow though. Wondering if I should train proper in 2020 instead of just plodding around in the hills but it's so much fun!
Just 600km and 6500m climbing.
Spent most of the summer after June 30th off my run due to being a cripple with planter facitus and the arrival of the daughter.
With that I knocked 10 minutes off my pb for 10k and 3 minutes off my 5k and ran my first ever half and full marathons.
Did 3200km on bike though
Back on it though day #11 of marcothon in the bag today another moonlight run
Rarely run on the flat/tarmac but I did a 48m 10k in summer (not a race, just up and down the Gironde at Bordeaux) and wondered if I could manage sub 45m. Watched a couple of YT vids and it seems like a lot of work to knock 3mins off. I can run a couple of Km at 4m20 pace but ten might kill me.
So how’s everyone’s YTD going?
Not bad, I have a bit of time of due to a hernia but other than that when I got back into it I realised just how much I enjoy running in the woods.
Not really logging Km's, just run for the fun of it.
Oh, I did finally wear out my ON Cloudventures.. so I bought another pair.
Just shy of 1000km, which recently has become my aim. Been running more than riding since August, just can’t face riding in the filth at night when I can nip out the door and run! No faff.
Down on last years distance, but more elevation:
Distance - 1,'101.3 mi
Time - 205h 7m
Elev Gain - 212,815 ft
Runs - 186
July & August was pretty much zero running due to injury, so overall pretty please.
Callander trail race last night, poor result (2.5 mins slower than last year) and fell over 3 times.
700km and 11,000m of climbing. Definitely a decent year by my standards.
So how’s everyone’s YTD going?
So far:
Distance, 1,269.7 mi
Time, 175h 18m
Elev Gain, 57,428 ft
Runs, 306
Bit gutted I missed out on averaging a run a day, may need to set that goal for next year. Looking at others numbers I also need to run in the hills more as most of my miles are along canals.
YTD:
Not bad, but nothing compared to some of you. Only really started running in August and now do a week night session with the local club and a run at the weekend. Have done XC races, run 10k and improved my parkrun time from 26 minutes to just over 21 minutes. I quite like the shorter, faster runs to be honest - the pain doesn’t last as long.
Happy to be staying injury free -
There’s always a niggle but I’ve come to accept it hurts.
Looking at doing slightly longer races and getting below 20 minutes on parkrun. I realise getting the pace down from about 4:16/km to just over 4:00/km is going to be really tough, as my improvement is a typical beginner curve and I will plateau soon. One thing I do quite well is suffer so who knows? Would like to do it before my muscles decay completely.
If you are running their is likely no such thing as a breathable jacket. The perspiration will always be higher than the jacket can get rid of meaning you will eventually be wet inside it. I have tried most fabrics, including GoreTex and Event.
Until I got my most recent Gore, I would have been inclined to agree, but this really has been a game changer. Read virtually any review and people say the same. I think the difference between this and traditional jackets is that Gore has previously bonded the breathable membrane to a fabric - this does away with the fabric, and is purely the membrane alone. My son calls it my bin-bag jacket as it's that thin.
My YTD stats aren't doing too badly, although I've slipped from my 6000km target at the start of the year:
Distance 5,030.6 km
Time 350h 50m
Elev Gain 31,510 m
Runs 379
improved my parkrun time from 26 minutes to just over 21 minutes
That's some improvement in 4 months!
As I don't wear a watch/GPS device I have no idea on distance or elevation but I reckon it must be somewhere approaching 2.5 to 3K miles.
I've managed a few pbs: 1M, 5K, 5M, 6M, 10K, 10M, Half, 20M, Mara so not been too bad.
I've run every day except for 6th - 24th May after I was bitten by a dog and got a DVT in my right leg (it was a 3 week rest)
I do a midweek loop once or twice a week - 15k/500m on fairly techy terrain, the first and last 2k are flat pavement - loads of roots and at this time of year, hidden rocks and holes under the leaves. Set my PB for the loop back in Feb after only having been running a couple of months. Managed to beat it last week, just, and it near killed me, which is difficult to get my head around. Must have had a ton of brute climbing strength from cycling back then, which I lost after so much resting injuries, and the small gains I've made on the flat and descending never quite made up for that lost speed. Thinking back to the races I did in Spring I always climbed up near the front of the race and just went backwards as soon as it levelled off and the terrain or contour destroyed my ankles.
According to Strava my estimated marathon time is 7h35!
Distance 2,127.6 km
Time 278h 44m
Elev Gain 81,051 m
Runs 171
Apologies if this has been asked before, but can some of you running types recommend good websites with advice (ideally videos) on stretching both before and after running?
Every time I start to get back into a bit of running I seem to end up straining/twisting/hurting something. Currently it's both calves, or maybe Achilles, not sure.
I've always known I'm bad for not stretching properly (at various sports) but now being over 50 I'm finally facing the reality that I'm going to have to start doing things properly.
Thanks in advance.
I did just 5,400km on the bike this year. Poor, but I really don't like going out when it's cold and wet, and I get put off if there is no one to ride with. Motivation is everything I really think. I hope someone doesn't say they've done more than that on foot!!!
@bob_summers that's some impressive elevation for the year - it would seem that on average your runs are over 6 times as hilly as mine!
@kennyp - theres a lot of conflicting info and personal preference when it comes to stretching and what the BEST way to do it is, or if it's worth doing at all.
In my experience, static stretching doesn't help me, but what does is more dynamic stretching or maybe what could be described as a warm up. It's more like exaggerated movements which sort of mimic what you would expect a stretch to be, but you're constantly moving and not holding a position as in a static stretch.
It sounds like what you're experiencing is your body telling you that it's not yet ready for the work you're making it do, but on the other hand when you're pushing outside of what is normal there's always going to be some pain as your body adapts to it's new demands.
I can't offer any websites or vids which would help but investigate warm up routines to get your muscles working before getting into your workout and also focus on anything that's not 100% once you've finished.
Despite doing quite a few miles this year, I still find my calf's will have taken a pounding if I do a hard/fast session and despite a good warm-up and cool-down I still need to get the foam roller out afterwards. It's just maybe a case of finding what works for you.
Some might agree and some might not, but I can say it's something that works for me. It might not work for you.
@turboferret it's (relatively) easy to rack up the climbing in País Vasco but I still found it surprising. I was climbing between 1500-2300m each week in Nov/Dec and 3000-4000 some weeks in summer (Pyrenees, Lakes and training for the trail mara) so it seems to check out.
@kennyp What's worked for me is "nerve flossing" (neurodynamics) and core work to keep Piriformis managable. When I've needed specific stretches (achilles) there's a muscly loud American bloke on YT who does some good how-tos with decent explanations. I'll try and find him in my watch history.
I also keep a monthly appt at the physio. I've never not needed it...
Edit: didn't take long, youtube ATHLEAN X (cringed a bit typing that)
