Inov-8 X-Talon 200 recommended. I was taking sloppy corners at normal speed with little or no slide. Straight through ankle deep mud without a worry about the heel slipping. Feel like proper mtb winter tyres strapped to your feet.
Inov-8 X-Talon 200 recommended.
As I was running in the gloop on Saturday I was thinking I need trail shoes but I don't really do enough distance off-road in the winter to justify the outlay. I might just avoid the parkrun until we get a spell of drier weather and just stick to road routes.
Been looking at that elevate App and there's loads of lines that I think i've got the hang of. Just wondered what others fitness score is coming in at? I'm currently on 13.1, up from 4 in August. Not that it means much but it's good geeky data.
Had a near miss this morning like the bloke who left some of his scalp on the bridge a few pages back.
Came flying down a hill, thick gloop at the bottom, slipped and just missed the corner of a wall with my forehead. Now in pain as I threw my arms out to counterbalance and felt something stretch in a bad way!
What helmet for trail running...
Checked Strava and noticed 2000km all off road have just ticked over for the year, and a hair off 80k of climbing. Not bad for one's first year (with about 2 months nursing injuries...)
Any exciting weekend plans?
Unexpected parkrun tomorrow for me as missus has flu and we've had to cancel a weekend away. THere's a new one just started about 400m from our house so I'll go along and show my support I reckon. Won't be breaking any records after a filthy cold all week though.
Then prob a club run on sunday morning.
Any exciting weekend plans?
parkrun tomorrow so it'll be 4 miles up there either way then the run. Helping out afterward doing some barcode scanning as well.
Not sure on Sunday, could help at Juniors but not sure yet.
Flying to Milan very early for a Christmas thing with our staff so no running for me until Monday. Hope you all enjoy.
Flying to Milan very early for a Christmas thing with our staff so no running for me until Monday. Hope you all enjoy.
Might have heard that mentioned on another thread 🙂
Run with a couple of mates up a mountain tomorrow, nothing serious though. Should be fun.
Did the Harmeny AC7 half yesterday. Quite simply the most enjoyable race I have ever taken part in. Colder than a witches tit and as icy as anything but stunning. And to my shame; there were a lot of proper fell runners there( vest top and shorts so small a testicle was dangling) but one fellow member of the 100kg ish club had turned up. To quote a couple of pages ago “ he was in a race without realising it.”
Hmmmm...
Entries opened for Arran Skyline and the smaller Tarsuinn races yesterday. Fancied the bigger race but it's a very early start, meaning staying the night before in a BnB - I'm not up for camping any more.
With entry costs and accom, talking 200 quid really, mibbe just stick with the shorter race again.
These views will soften the blow somewhat...
If you’re mad enough to want to do the Arran Skyline, Greg, I’m sure we can put you up for the night so you can get that early start.
Any exciting weekend plans?
Went windsurfing on Sat, QECP yesterday... and almost hurled.
It was hard going.
Has anyone had any experience with the trainasone app, I have entered the Bungay Marathon (April 2020), and I am considering using this app as a training program.
I am reasonably fit, having run a 10k race last weekend (46mins) and I did an easy 20k yesterday without to many issues, so I should hopefully be ok for a 42k by April.
I ran my first "ultra" just over a week ago. Loved it! Well i've forgotten the pain and discomfort now so not sure I loved it at the time or not.... I've got my eye on some more for next year though.
It was a pretty small low key event, only 30 participants running from Marsden to Edale in the Peak District. The route went over Black Hill, Bleaklow then Kinder Scout and came in at 44km with 1300+ meters of ascent (so just over regular marathon distance).
My longest trail run before this was about 30km so the plan was to finish and not come last.... Somehow I managed to rock up 4th overall with a time of 5hr 48min. Well chuffed! I had no idea what position I was in until I got to the last aid station, I was 5th at that point and fully expected someone to appear from the mist behind at any point. Fortunately they didn't and I spotted the guy in 4th up ahead on the last descent down Jacobs ladder. I managed to catch him at the bottom where he told me he was feeling it! I decided to deploy some mind games at that point as I too was ruddy knackered and didn't fancy a sprint for the line. He asked how feeling and I was and I was like "yea i'm pretty good actually...." (I really wasnt). I managed to open a gap of about 100 meters quite quickly on him. That gap then remained in place for the final few km on what felt like the slowest race on earth to the finish.
If you’re mad enough to want to do the Arran Skyline, Greg, I’m sure we can put you up for the night so you can get that early start.
Lol, cheers Marko!
My (perhaps skewed!) logic is that the Tarsuinn this year wasn't too bad, so Skyline should be doable. Also worked out on Tarsuinn and a couple of other races this year that runners who are faster than me normally perhaps don't fare as well in the mountains, tbh I think hillwalking is great training for the likes of this.
Hmmmmm...
Nobeer,
Did you get an invite to enter the Arran races at a reduced rate?
I got an email from SI Entries offering me an 'invitation' to enter at a 34% discount. I wondered if everybody got one or whether it was just me as compensation for dicking me about last year!
Cheers.
tbh I think hillwalking is great training for the likes of this.
If completion rather than a fast time is your goal that is spot on.
No Spin, twas only those that did the longer route that got the discount sadly.
Ah right, so everyone who did the longer race got a discount, wonder if it was because they cut the route last year?
They're not getting any more of my money anyway!
Some great runs going soon here. Most of my running seems to be struggling up and down the A217 with the occasional foray into a muddy field - living the dream!
First time on a bike this Saturday gone - a lap of Swinley on a retro bike with a load of retro blokes. Here's what I thought would happen:
1. Legs would feel it as bike muscles not been used for a while.
2. Backside would hurt the day after.
3. I'd feel sprightly on the hills due to losing nearly a stone since the summer and doing running intervals and XC. V02 max has gone up and I can push myself further than only three months ago.
So, off I went, keeping pace with the 2 fast guys up front, blast up the first hill, and here's what happened:
1. Legs felt it as expected - the burn!
2. Yes, my backside hurts today - no suspension, 26" wheels and anti brakes make for a lively ride.
3. Felt like absolute crap, lungs burning, gasping for breath, felt like I was going to die after one hill that I used to zip up on the single speed - proper oxygen debt, almost scared at one point Felt like an unfit old man and by the end I was pooped - a full 21Km of riding on what isn't the most demanding of terrain. Maybe I was expecting too much?
To be fair, I did keep up with the middle of the group and wasn't the slowest, but I was expecting to feel fit and sprightly. The wind has been taken out of my sails a bit and I get the feeling old age is coming at me head-on, and I've got nowhere to hide. If I can't hide, I'll just have to keep running!
XC racing always hurts IME. Was it an official retro race or a mates' event? Sounds fun anyway.
Back to running, I have decided to enter the Wigan Half Marathon in March - which means I have a little over three months to train for it.
Currently running 5km once a week or so, and have done a couple of 10km runs - though the last one caused some knee pain. So I'm thinking to do two or three 5km runs a week over the next month or so - then increase the distance again. This seems to be in alignment with a training plan I found on Runners World.
Any thoughts? And also with regard to integrating training with cycling?
Long slow runs, forget your pace and times, time on your feet without bursting yourself will help the knee IME and will give you confidence to do the distance.
Variation, get some trail runs in, some hills, tempo runs, intervals etc.
A half marathon can be winged, a marathon less so, you'll be fine.
Thanks, one of my workmates is signed up to a (different) half marathon in March and we were discussing pace yesterday.
I feel like I only have one speed (which feels slow-ish) and Strava says my runs are mostly 5.30 to 5.50 (mins per km).
I can't really do trail running from the door this time of year (too sloppy) but another running pal did suggest heading up the local hill (much better surfaced), does that have benefits beside being less boring? Will it strengthen my legs better, for example?
Definitely will help, both up and down. Up for obvious reasons, but learning to run downhill on the hill races I've done more efficiently has definitely helped me in road races too.
As for your pace, that'll come the more you run.
I do 90% trail running on pretty hilly terrain (Peak District) and whilst I find I'm getting quicker up and down the hills it hasn't done much to my overall pace on the flat.
Keeping it simple I think you need to do a lot of what you want to do faster in order to go faster.
I think strength from hill running does translate into the ability to turn a hard gear on the bike up steep hills and vice versa though
Should I do it?
After trying and failing to get a London Marathon place for about 368 years, I have given up and am considering entering the Manchester Marathon instead. And I have also always wanted to do a Tri and have just been alerted to the York Triathlon in August (I will just need to do some swimming lessons to sort out technique as it's rubbish). However I already have a place in the GNR in September. Would a marathon in April followed by a Tri in Aug and a half-marathon in September be a bit of an odd combination in terms of training?
I've got a bit of a marathon itch. Don't think 2020 will be the year for me though as doubt I'll have the chance to put the mileage in. I was never really a runner until a couple of years ago and generally do a couple of 10k ish runs a week, plus one or two shorter ones. I've done a half marathon distance fell race but that's literally the longest I've ever run so doubt I'd be able to do a full mararthon distance without some serious training.
Going to try and get a GNR entry for 2020 though and maybe a couple of other halfs and longer fell races and go from there...
Sorry - no help to your training question johndoh - just got me thinking 😉
Just had my London 2020 championship entry application approved 🙂
Now the simple matter of running a hundred miles a week between Christmas and the end of April...
Going to try and get a GNR entry for 2020 though
It'll be harder than usual as it's the 40th anniversary so I'd get in early if I were you.
Would a marathon in April followed by a Tri in Aug and a half-marathon in September be a bit of an odd combination in terms of training?
Nah, I think you'd be fine, particularity if the tri was early August and the half in late September. Once you've run a full marathon you'll find half's very enjoyable and something of a pleasant distance to run.
Would a marathon in April followed by a Tri in Aug and a half-marathon in September be a bit of an odd combination in terms of training?
What lunge says, you'll be fine. I'm assuming you're just doing the events for fun / personal satisfaction, if you're aiming to win then it's a different matter. (FWIW this year I've done a couple of trail marathons, an ironman, 3 half ironmans, and a couple of other local shorter trail races... I don't bother the winners, and they don't bother me 🙂 )
I’m assuming you’re just doing the events for fun / personal satisfaction, if you’re aiming to win then it’s a different matter.
Yeah just for fun (although I will be training hard to get okay times for an old bloke). Normally I just do my regular running (parkruns, occasional longer weekend runs, two or three 10ks then one 'big' event so was just concerned I might be trying to train for too much).
was just concerned I might be trying to train for too much
You're getting the "dangerous" event out the way first, if you don't get injured building up to a marathon you'll be fine for the rest. (And there's no particular reason you should get injured, just that it's higher risk than the others). Post-marathon start building the cycling, and maintain the running fitness by doing 15-20km long runs and some interval stuff. Lay off the swimming in the week before the marathon, but otherwise keep doing it.
It’ll be harder than usual as it’s the 40th anniversary so I’d get in early if I were you.
It's just a ballot isn't it? So chuck you name in the hat then cross your fingers. Failing that, sign up for a charity place and commit to raising an amount of money for chosen charity.
Or is it not that simple?
r8jimbob88 - A very good time for Sunday! I did the event too (including Saturday) and ran the whole thing with my wife. Got to say it was a brilliant event, well organised, and a good route. I could hardly walk after Saturday, so not sure where I found the ability to do Sunday.
Came away with joint 3rd (12:28 for the 60 miles) which meant she got 1st female, and course record by over an hour. Successful weekend!
No running at all last week (part recovery, part time, part cycling) and none this week as away for work, so need to get a long one on Saturday.
It’s just a ballot isn’t it? So chuck you name in the hat then cross your fingers. Failing that, sign up for a charity place and commit to raising an amount of money for chosen charity.
Or is it not that simple?
It depends on how you want to do it. If you are just doing the ballot then yes you just put your name down and wait but if you are doing it for a charity many of them are already allocating their places as they have already been given their allocation from the organisers.
Santa Dash today. Was hoping for a too 10 and came in second! Not really a race but it’s likely to be the only time I ever trouble the podium.
Stopped after 1km while an fellow Sutton Runner tied their shoelace, but I couldn’t have caught the winner.
Legs were A bit tired after a parkrun pb of 21:14 yesterday.
I have been slowly (being the operative word here, lost so much speed) getting back into my running as I’ve pretty much lost the cycling love these days.
Wondering if any of you have done the Tour of Tameside?
I’ve done the first day (10k trail) of the four a few times but work commitments in the past have meant I’ve never been able to do more than that.
For 2020 it’s looking like I’ll be able to commit to the full four days (Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) and I am seriously tempted to just go for it.
For those that have done it, or something similar (it’s a 10k/6m/half/7m on consecutive days and a mix of trail and road) how do you go about training?
I’m doing my first half January 5th and have no issues with the other distances but on consecutive days with the fatigue etc I’m unsure how to proceed if indeed I need to do more than just suck it up come the time.
For those sorts of short distances would people just start to do consecutive days running in training or would you go about it some other way?
My google skills are only bringing up stuff relating to ultras etc.
I wouldn't change my training for that, if you're used running 4 or 5 times a week it'll be fine. If not, then aye, get some consecutive days in.
Good time at park run Root. 👌🏻
@Nobeerinthefridge I’m not concerned regarding the short one just the half at present as it’s my unknown.
Getting 3-4 runs in at the minute currently topping out around 8 miles.
I think I’ll do some consecutive runs just to see how it feels.
Aye, I know what you mean. If you're Okay with the other 3, just go easy on the half, if at 10 miles you feel okay, push on?.
Best of luck!
Cheers. Not until June so plenty more training time.
The half in January will give me an idea too.
Need a goal and the ‘Tour’ fits the bill.
Oops, sorry, I've not read your post properly at all!.
Aye, just up your miles until the half isn't an issue, don't worry about pace, keep it slow, the pace will come.
Sorry if this has been covered before but does anyone have recommendations for a running jacket. Looking for something as breathable as possible but will keep the rain out for a couple of hours if need be
Well my grand plans for 2019 have amounted to about 13miles total 😁
