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I thought Bladerunner was great and woke up the next day thinking a Dennis Villeneuve standalone Star Wars movie would be excellent.
Still annoyed by TLJ though, and it's not because of the Porgs neither.
casino and space donkey escape
*is annoyed that he didn't think of 'space donkey' earlier*
TLJ was massively disappointing, Bladerunner 2049 was however the film of the year
Anakin Skywalker was a nobody to begin with, was he not? So although they managed 6 films about the Skywalker family (with the other 3 making a mention of them as well), so Rey isn't far off...
Exactly same theme through out the previous 7.
The writers of this nonsense make the wallys who wrote Bladerunner 2039 look like a bunch of Hemmingways.
There’s another Bladerunner?
The haters on this thread, did you take a kid? I can even like Phantom Menace if I watch it with my boy. I'm not expecting anything other than a fun kids film.
I can even like Phantom Menace if I watch it with my boy. I'm not expecting anything other than a fun kids film.
Go on, I'll say it; For all it's many flaws, I preferred The Phantom Menace to TLJ because of exactly that; it was fun. TLJ was just dull.
I liked TLJ despite its flaws it was fun.
I liked TLJ despite its flaws it was fun.
What would you know, fun sponge? 😉
@anagallis, I went with my two sons (10 & 12) because for me the most fun thing about these new SW movies is seeing them in the cinema with them / through their eyes. The 12 year old gave it 7/10 and the 10 year old says it's his best star wars movie ever. And they have seen all the star wars movies many times. So what do I know with my cynicism?? Your kid(s) will probably love it.
What would you know, fun sponge?
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I’m not in the “hate” camp, more a critical observer.. and nah, no kids either but I do have nephews (eldest is 12) and I’d not take him to see it..
I would however sit him down and watch all of the Star Wars movies in succession, and leave this latest until last..
He can then make his own informed decision.
Oh gawd. I was hoping this would be a "good film", in it's own rightsimondbarnes -
It is.
Seems to be a minority view, even from people who like the other films. I can save my £35. Thanks for helping me make up my mind STW. 🙂
Your kid(s) will probably love it.
He did, as did I. I just think a lot of the critical reviewing here is from grown ups wanting Star Wars to grow up with them and it hasnt.
I’m not in the “hate” camp, more a critical observer.. and nah, no kids either but I do have nephews (eldest is 12) and I’d not take him to see it..
I would however sit him down and watch all of the Star Wars movies in succession, and leave this latest until last..
He can then make his own informed decision.
Comedy gold 😆
Seems to be a minority view, even from people who like the other films.
It seems to be about 50/50 to me the ones who hate it a big majority were expecting final answers after being hyped to shit, they didn’t get them so through their Ewoks out their land speeders.
He did, as did I. I just think a lot of the critical reviewing here is from grown ups wanting Star Wars to grow up with them and it hasnt.
Very much this, Luke’s character did none of the things I wanted or expected. And it’s a better film for it.
Yes there are some plot holes, odd parts and clunky dialogue but it’s escapism.
The people fervently complaining about one ship not being able to overtake another due to weight seems entirely comfortable with ignoring general relativity and time dialation...
I loved it - and as a properly middle aged star wars fan. Yes it had flaws but I have yet to watch a film that didn't (including Empire). But then I wasn't expecting perfection.
The Leia Mary Poppins scene was grim and, while I cannot properly forgive it, it was at least brief. I agree that the casino element was pointless and it tested my suspension of disbelief but I have forgiven it due to the other headline excellent elements (e.g. Snoke/Rey/Ren fight and Mark Hamill generally).
This currently ranks as my 4th best SW film after Empire, Rogue 1 and a new hope.
Really looking forward to next watch with eldest boy (only 6 years old but he loves SW and think it will be fine for him at that age).
This is what's disappointing for me... it's a billion dollar franchise, Disney must have near limitless resources, just get someone with a bit of common sense to check it over before you release it FFS!Yes there are some plot holes, odd parts and clunky dialogue
FWIW I think they managed a great job with Rogue One and although I enjoyed watching TLJ (cos it was Star Wars) it's a poorly made film standing on its own IMO.
Seems to be a minority view, even from people who like the other films. I can save my £35. Thanks for helping me make up my mind STW.
Seems to mainly be people who go to a film to dissect it and look for plot holes etc that don't like it. I watch films to be entertained.
This is what's disappointing for me... it's a billion dollar franchise, Disney must have near limitless resources, just get someone with a bit of common sense to check it over before you release it FFS!
Yes this. You'd think they would be able to afford the best writers in Hollywood.... hang on maybe they did 😯
I thought it looked great but damn it was long and it did feel like I'd seen it all before. Essentially it was a greatest hits.
Who is Snokes anyway? Where'd he come from?
I went to see it and I really wanted it to be great. I didn't want to think it might be shit, and this is from someone who saw E1 at an early press screening and thoroughly enjoyed it BITD. I've watched it (voluntarily!) since and still don't hate its guts, but I really can't say I'm that arsed about ever seeing TLJ again. I hope any stand alone films are better and they don't ruin them with jokey bants. It works ok in the Marvel films but not in Star Wars, please.
Oh, and why no bacta treatments for Finn or Leia? What's with the stupid oxygen tent things? Shit, shit, shit, shitty shit. Get in the ****ing sea.
Read the first three pages of this thread… is it all like this? The humourless and anal missing out on enjoying a fun film?
Just been with the family, everyone loved it.
Whilst i get lots of people saying it is a kids film and therefore the humour and everything is fine, i think anyone making a Star Wars movie has know they are making a film that has to appeal to a broad spectrum and as much as everyone says it is a childrens film, you only have to stand at the doors of the cinema to see that the screenings are mostly 30-45 year old men!
Even if it is a kids film, it is still 2 1/2 hours long, and being a kids film doesn't mean the writing, dialogue and storytelling have to be shoddy, the best of the kids films are such often because they are snappy, well written and do not insult kids intelligence, you only have to look at films like Up or Inside Out to see this.
Whilst dissecting a film kills most of the enjoyment, the comments that the critics are being harsh or expecting this to be something else seem out of place. I'm reading this thread and agreeing with most comments on the problems in the film.
I was not expecting The Last Jedi or any future star wars film to appeal like I'm a kid but this is a very patchy film. Quite wooden acting, a story arc that's pretty dull and overly familiar, and even the set pieces feel like we've seen it all before.
I loved Force awakens, was indifferent to Rogue one, but think this is at best a 6/10.
Haha! FA was good but it was Episode IV redone.
Drac - ModeratorHaha! FA was good but it was Episode IV redone
Absolutely, but regardless, it had some excitement and fast pacing. There wasnt anything about it in particular that you thought should have been cut, or a character you wanted rid of particularly. Unlike TLJ
That’s a very different reason than being all too familiar and wooden acting, that is Star Wars in a nutshell poor acting, poor plots and all familiar but some good action bits. TLJ has exactly that, yes there was silly bits but there has always been silly bits through most of them.
Look, the first few minutes has Eddie Hitler dressed as an imperial officer, if that doesn't give you an idea of where this film is heading then you just don't get it, it will not make sense, not the gravity bombs in space, the slow space ships, the girl raised on a desert being able to swim straight away, the slowly following the enemy ship even though you could have sent a few of your own ahead, the tribute to Mary Poppjns, the where was Lukes metal hand when he evaporated, why would you taste a foreign planets dirt bit etc.
I at first thought, well this is a travesty to Star Wars but then I realized, I'm a middle aged guy and its just a film, so I let it slide after page 2 of this thread.
/drunkrantover
The drunk says it all.
Just back from the pictures and have to say I thought it was carp. Plot and baddies were paper thin, the acting was awful, none of it made sense, and they threw in every cliche going. Thing is even the kids thought it was pants so not even a great kids film. Very disappoint.
Well if you think this film was bad, I just watched Dunkirk. Holy Jesus it was bloody awfull , cant believe its a Christopher Nolan film , no way.
Made TLJ look amazeballs.
I saw it! It was ok - nowhere near as bad as Force Awakens, that's for sure. Lots of silly bits, I mean, the stuff drunk bloke waffled on about I just let wash over me - worst bit for me was the light speed collision of 2 space ships, devastation except our 2 heroes who were just about to be decapitated (slowly of course), completely unharmed. Apart from that, I survived.
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Well if you think this film was bad, I just watched Dunkirk. Holy Jesus it was bloody awfull , cant believe its a Christopher Nolan film , no way.
Adds another to the list of film reviews to ignore....
I thought this as well, the way it ends with the Resistance at an all time low, preparing the way for a huge comeback in episode IX
I thought that whole set up was poor - all of the resistance are in that cave!! What like 4 people?
I thought that whole set up was poor - all of the resistance are in that cave!! What like 4 people?
No these are the leaders and a bulk of their forces, they also have lots of people around the galaxy who need to come together.
Basically see the end of Thor Ragnarok, similar idea there
I thought that whole set up was poor - all of the resistance are in that cave!! What like 4 people?
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As pointed out they’re scattered all over the galaxy it mentioned that more than once in film
[quote=donks ]Just back from the pictures and have to say I thought it was carp. Plot and baddies were paper thin, the acting was awful, none of it made sense, and they threw in every cliche going. Thing is even the kids thought it was pants so not even a great kids film. Very disappoint.
this pretty much sums up my view
Added nothing but fluff to the cannon that is slowly being eviscerated for money
Its not great 5/10 and 2/10 without any special effects
Luke drinking fanboy tears!!
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You really would have to be a Star wars fanboi to enjoy this, sat through it with teenage son in the belief he would enjoy it, he didn't.
Certainly a homage to the original movies, pure fromage.
Nope, no-one else is out there as no-one answered the call when it was broadcast.
Nope, no-one else is out there as no-one answered the call when it was broadcast.
Errr! They’re out there it was explained it simple terms, for it is kids film, they were out there and why they didn’t answer.
Haven’t read above or seen the movie.
Can’t get a centre seat for 2 at my cinema for weeks?!
Agh hate you all ;0)