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26mpg average for motorway miles? That’s worse than my 944 s2 used to get. Aren’t you going to have spent more than the purchase price of the car in fuel on this one trip alone (I think you might be north of £200 already?)Y
I also have an old diesel Berlingo that does 50+ mpg but I'd rather pay double the fuel bill and use the comfortable Cayenne instead! You can fly to Prague for £30 so it's a moot point anyway.
The diesel 957 Cayenne does low/mid 30's mpg but they are a lot more expensive to buy and you have the added cost of fragile EGR/turbos/HPFP/injector's. A new diesel Grenadier does low 20's mpg, the petrol sub 20's.
......and remember - this is a dinosaur of a car in an age of EV's. but it only cost £500 so if I spend a few quid more on fuel I'm still well in pocket.
Heading home now but it's nearly the 20th birthday for our Porsche so we called in at its birthplace on the way past!
The Leipzig plant was built specifically to build Cayennes. The bodyshells were made in Slovakia but Porsche then shipped them to Germany for completion.
The visitors experience (and factory) were closed for Christmas but security were cool with us taking photos (despite the signs saying strictly otherwise)
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so it’s a moot point anyway.
I'm a big fan on not buying new stuff every time something better comes along. Might bea somehow lingering, inherited mend and make do mentality.
The chassis on my 2011 Transit is still looking surprisingly decent (thanks to some work done by Preserve & Protect that gets an annual top up which was £160 last year, and I regularly inspect and treat everything I can find). Although I'll be cutting some pieces of the sills out and welding (neighbour, retired, used to work doing bodywork repairs) patches from replacement sills back in. Think I have 2x10cm patches that are getting a bit thin. Few other things I'm going to start maintaining myself rather than spending £50p/h.
Back home - dropped MIL off just now after spending 40 hours in the car with her! (actually she's really great fun and up for adventures like this)
Covered 1867.5miles to Prague and back in total. Averaged at 25.5mpg - please don't work out the fuel bill I don't want to know!
The only issues were a failed side light bulb which I didn't get round to changing and a failed H7 highbeam (it has 4), other than that it was as sure footed, capable and comfortable as usual. An awesome car........and especially for £500.
It's going to have a well earned rest and clean before it continues its tinkering sessions and adventures.
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Covered 1867.5miles to Prague and back in total. Averaged at 25.5mpg – please don’t work out the fuel bill I don’t want to know!
If it involves getting on the very next train, it cost you less in fuel than getting 4 people from London to Sheffield and back by rail today.
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Your MiL looks reasonably happy... 🙂
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Bert wasn't happy about dropping MIL off at her house as he knew the adventure was coming to an end! He wouldn't get out of the car at our house although that might be due to reasons like this!*
* Prague hotel charged €40 per night for a dog and didn't provide anything extra. The Leipzig hotel was €15 per night and provided bowls, nice sleeping mat, high quality treats (the products were local / German and had promotional/sales literature with them). Hence Bert got his occasional €40 worth.
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Good car washing weather today and an opportunity to wash the road salt from underneath/subframes/inner wheel arches etc even though both of them are thoroughly epoxy and Dinitrol'd.
Insurance due tomorrow on the Porsche so it's been in 'use' for a year. Renewal is £320
Still makes me chuckle that one of these similar aged cars cost me 5x times more than the other!
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My 958 is in for it's 9th MOT and it's hurting this time - new tyres all round, new brake pads & disks and new handbrake pads ...... 4.5 'Porsches'!
Oh and a piston in one of the brake calipers refused to go back in - replacement from a scrappy at £150 as aftermarket are apparently not available leaving new from Porsche @ >£1000!!
Time for another oil change and update as I've been using the Cayenne again this last week as my 21year old daily driver Berlingo needed a wheel bearing for its MOT.
Its 5k miles since it's last service and in that time it's done Isle of Skye/NC500, St David's and a trip to the Czech Republic and back. Its only issue in that time are a failed full beam and sidelight bulb's. Not much else to report - but I've noticed the PCM (in car entertainment system) screen is starting to occasionally fault and lose its colour (an issue with the LCD screen ribbon connector). Because the first gen Cayennes are now classed as Classic Porsche's an upgraded PCCM+ is available from Porsche with Apple Play/Bluetooth etc. Its £1200 but it is tempting as it's a direct replacement and it has trip data/Canbus data that aftermarket units don't have.
Still the best £500 I'll ever spend on a car!
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(parked at work alongside my colleagues 958)
Trusty Greta was pressed back in to service this Easter weekend towing our T@B caravan down to a nice quiet campsite near Beddgelert. Long story but MrsRNP met me there in her trusty V70 so we had two of our 20+ year old cars on site.
Towed well although I did go the easy way via Porthmadog/Caernarfon rather than going the short route over Bleaneau and up to Betws.
Outlay this month was £5.95 for a replacement washer fluid lid as the previous one wasn't correct and made my teeth itch whenever I popped the bonnet.
What's the road tax for this age of Porsche now? It must be knocking on the £1k
What's the road tax for this age of Porsche now? It must be knocking on the £1k
It's pre March 2006 so is £430. March onwards are £735
I was fearing my 3.0i z4 road tax shooting up but it's an oldie 04 plate, still getting robbed for all these speed bumps and crappy pothole repairs
We drove over to near Richmond Yorkshire with Tabatha in tow Friday afternoon after work for the bank holiday weekend, nice quiet little site.
Roast salt and pepper chicken, green beans, roasted buttered carrots, garlic and basil roast potatoes. All cooked on our Cobb oven at campsite tonight.
Yum!!!!
The reason for the food related post is that MrsRNP was a dab hand at manifold cooking on our overlander Defender, we had many the smell of delicious meals wafting from under the bonnet as we trundled along motorway and autoroutes (unfortunately the pics are pre my iPhone)
Greta's V6 runs really quite warm - you can feel heat radiating from the wings when you walk past and the manifolds area is bigger and more open than our Defender. The Prague trip wasn't the time to be experimenting with Greta but I think it's going to be a good cooking capable vehicle but for now our trusty Cobb oven continues to work brilliantly.
What's that in the second picture? Looks like an overheated brake drum with a wrap of tinfoil inside it. 😁
What's that in the second picture? Looks like an overheated brake drum with a wrap of tinfoil inside it. 😁
It's the 'moat' of the Cobb that can be filled with liquid to keep the main compartment moist, the fire basket is removed and scorching a waffle pattern on the grass!
Cobb cooking is similar to engine manifold cooking - two layers of tin foil with liquid inside (oil/wine/butter etc). In the Cobb they are placed round the outside of the fire basket, the chicken was on the griddle plate above.
Drove home today via the A1 and M62 - EML flagged up!!!!!
Read the code when we got home and it was the P0441 Evaporative Emissions Control. It's flagged this before and I bought a £35 genuine Bosch solenoid valve from Autodoc (Porsche £230) at the time but didn't get round to fitting it.
The valve is in the same place as the crankcase breather / PCV which I haven't done anything with since I bought the car. A genuine assembly is £360 as the internal diaphragm isn't available separately from Porsche. Luckily Chinese knock-off diaphragms from AliExpress are less than £10. I'd ordered one a few weeks ago so with the nice bank holiday afternoon weather I set about changing both of them.
I also bought 10x engine trim Dzus clips for £1.44 (Porsche are £1.44 each)
The breather assembly pops apart with careful screwdriver use, it was fairly junked up but still clear. Cleaned out and new diaphragm fitted.
The Evap valve was awkwardly sited at the back of the engine. Bit of knuckle scraping and it was changed.
Hopefully no further EML!!!
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I wonder how much that would have set you back at a dealership for that + diagnostics.
Bit more than £500 I suspect
I wonder how much that would have set you back at a dealership for that + diagnostics.
Bit more than £500 I suspect
Probably not as much as you'd think - the Mk1 Cayenne has 'Classic' status with Porsche so is eligible for reduced labour costs and a range of Porsche upgrades - retrofit cruise control, PCM (Carplay head unit) etc.
The other good thing about these early Cayennes is that they are 20+years old, everyone has already had every problem they are likely to have and is well documented on various forums.
£480 Cayenne on YouTube.
Oh dear.......I've just gone and bought another cheap Cayenne from a different work colleague!
A few pages back a good friend/work colleague bought a 958 (3rd gen) Cayenne to run alongside his Maserati as he'd had a drive in mine and was well impressed. He absolutely loved his Cayenne, decent spec V6 diesel with sensible sized wheels and fancy PASM suspension........
All was well until this year's MOT and it failed on all four shocks leaking (was MOT'd and serviced at long standing Porsche indy) resulting in a £3k bill.
My colleague has 0% patience with cars - any tiny fault and it's gone. He had the suspension fixed and offered it me for what WBAC had offered him. I did feel a tiny bit guilty so gave him £500 extra as he had just spent £3k on it.
MrsRNP is going to have this one, our beloved 215k mile Volvo V70 is tired and needs some major work to pass it's MOT in August so might be going to Volvohalla.....
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You can’t get rid of the v70 for a Porsche!
You can’t get rid of the v70 for a Porsche!
We love our Volvo, we've owned it for 16 years and it's never let us down, its taken us all over Europe, grown a business with it, brought Bert home in it, been to weddings.....and funerals in it. But it's 21years old with 215k miles, it owes us nothing.
I fitted a pair of front calipers the other month and noticed the steering rack is leaking again (I last did it during Covid lockdown). The drivers seat bolster has split, the exhaust is blowing and the wheels are scabby and need re powder coating (it has newish Michelin Crossclimates) and I think it's due a timing belt later this year.
It's been maintained no expense spared, genuine or OEM parts, synthetic oil every 5k, good project for someone but I think I'm done with it.......
I have my £500 XC90 project that's nearing completion so the Volvo spirit will live on.
MrsRNP Cayenne will become our caravan tow car freeing my Cayenne to get some workshop time.....
I lived and worked in Morocco for a few years and would love to go back, I could do the Maroc Challenge at the same time!
£500 Cayenne doing Dakar stages?
All was well until this year's MOT and it failed on all four shocks leaking
I'm very surprised - I have one leaking shock (it's common) but it's just air and gets pumped back up as soon as I get in the car - no MOT issues. The £3k repair bill I can easily beleive though!
Two things I'd do straight away:
1) remove the throttle body and clean the caked on gunk out of it - the EGR valve dumps crap into the airflow that accumulates in the throttle body and into the manifold.
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2) Spend a couple of hundred on an Isudar Carlinkit board (fits directly into the PCM) to give the car fully wireless Carplay and Android Auto - brings the car right up to date and mine's been flawless.
Maybe change the wheel speed sensors at some point - they're very cheap and when they go the dashboard lights up like a xmas tree!! I also had the brake pedal switch and some glow plugs die at the same time - very odd and caused all sorts of issues (such as the brakes applying themselves when driving along!)
Other than that it's a brilliant car and, now you've got the suspension sorted, will last a very long time. The build quality and materials are fantastic and the interior mine still looks just like it did when I bought it 11 years and >100k miles ago.
Thanks for the info - it's had the wheel sensors changed early in my colleagues ownership. I'll carry a few in stock though.
It's on coil springs but with PASM, it did feel 'soft' in its normal setting and especially back to back with mine. The new shocks have firmed things up considerably.
I'm going to change the gearbox, transfer case, differential oils, EGR de-coke and give it a general service and once over underneath so it's baseline'd into my ownership.
Collected my 958 last night. I've been a passenger in it many times but never driven it.
Interesting to be able to own two generations of a car and see the evolution.
The VAG 3.0 V6 diesel has some serious grunt and works well with the 8 speed (same as the 955 but with an extra 2 gears however it doesn't have the low range transfer box). I've reset the PCM/ECU so can't report about MPG yet.
The digital side of the 958 (PCM / dashboard) is far more advanced than the 955! However switchgear and interior fittings feel cheaper/flimsier than the 955 which feels like it's hewn from solid. MrsRNP commented on this also.
Condition wise - it's v.good, I know it's history from the last year during my colleague's ownership. A scan revealed the e-handbrake needs adjustment which is why it won't auto release. A steering wheel tiptronic upshift button doesn't work on one side. I'm sure I can sort it.
Here's what a grand total of £6500 for both of them looks like!
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Cleaning session!
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Very nice 👍
Yes, very nice. Not much of a car person but just got to say Ive thoroughly enjoyed/ing following this thread
...........and the 958 is broken already!
Used the rear wash wipe last night but no water came out of the wishy-washy jet, shortly afterwards the wiper motor kept wiping and wouldn't shut off. Turning the ignition off/on made no difference.
A quick Google confirmed my thoughts (had identical with our V70), the jet becomes blocked and a seal fails inside the wiper motor assembly. This then shorts the circuit and the motor runs on.
Removed the rear trim panel, the plastic wiper arm had already cracked around the mounting boss so was cut off. The drive boss was pulled with my cheap little Amazon puller.
A new wiper motor is
£310 genuine Porsche
£140 Valeo OEM
£25 eBay Chinese
........but let's see if we can fix this one!
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I've had more success with a nut splitter than a bearing puller on rotted-on wiper fittings.
I cleaned the spindle/drive boss and gave it a good blast of Wurth Rost-off (amazing stuff), the drive boss came off easily.
Bit of work on my recently acquired 958 to bring it up to my standard's.
Differentials oils changed, transfer box also changed - the diesel transfer case uses the same oil (75/90w) as the diffs and has a torsen centre differential. The petrols have a different transfer case.
Changed f&r discs and pads. On my 955 I fitted Brembo discs and pads but to be honest I've not been impressed with them - they don't have much initial bite.
I've gone with Zimmerman discs - never used them before but the surface coating and made in Germany appealed. Pads are Ferodo.
Cost from Autodoc was £450ish (including the ZF gearbox filter and a few Peugeot and Volvo bits also).
Handbrake air gap adjusted correctly so drive off release works
Gearbox filter and oil change yet to do.
Got the PCM Bluetooth working so music plays from my phone (Bluetooth aux input) - needed a 'handover' reset.
Found the DPF parameters within the Foxwell OBD - showing 3grams soot and a recent regen so hopefully the engine will be okay with our useage pattern.
Also did the differential oils in my 955 as it's been a year since I changed the front diff - the oil was fine.
Otherwise - not much to report!
My £500 Cayenne gets a short run out once a week to keep it ticking over, it's now just waiting for garage time for a rebuild/modifications.The recently acquired 958 is having this prep work for a summer roadtrip - I'd love to do Scandinavia but the rubbish weather on Long Way Round coupled with Simon Reeves BBC program has put MrsRNP off so it looks like Northern Italy in September.
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I'd love to do Scandinavia but the rubbish weather on Long Way Round coupled with Simon Reeves
Funny,I was watching Euan and Charley's trip last night and thought the same as MrsRNP .
Sod that for touring,some of it looked grim 🙄
Oh dear.......I've just gone and bought another cheap Cayenne from a different work colleague!
A few pages back a good friend/work colleague bought a 958 (3rd gen) Cayenne to run alongside his Maserati as he'd had a drive in mine and was well impressed. He absolutely loved his Cayenne, decent spec V6 diesel with sensible sized wheels and fancy PASM suspension........
All was well until this year's MOT and it failed on all four shocks leaking (was MOT'd and serviced at long standing Porsche indy) resulting in a £3k bill.
My colleague has 0% patience with cars - any tiny fault and it's gone. He had the suspension fixed and offered it me for what WBAC had offered him. I did feel a tiny bit guilty so gave him £500 extra as he had just spent £3k on it.
MrsRNP is going to have this one, our beloved 215k mile Volvo V70 is tired and needs some major work to pass it's MOT in August so might be going to Volvohalla.....
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Great stuff!
It's a shame so many good cars get binned these days. I'm always on the lookout for an old comfy runabout that I can throw bikes in the back of, but up here even obviously totally neglected heaps are asking silly money.
One day... one day...
Roadtrip time!
A good work colleague has never been camping so with MrsRNP being away this weekend I bundled Bert dog, work colleague and a spare tent into the car and headed for our favourite little farm campsite near Beddgelert.
Weather was perfect if not a little warm for Bert - thankfully the campsite has a river flowing through so he had lots of paddles. Took my trusty old Waeco compressor fridge so we had ice cold beers.......
Work colleague loved it!
Porsche performed well.........until it flagged an ABS & PSM fault around the slow roads of Bleanau festiniog. I know these cars are susceptible to low voltage faults and I think having the Waeco compressor fridge plugged in, charging a dead phone, the gearbox doing lots of shifts with the brake lights regularly lit along with the Aircon running really pulled the voltage down so the furthest most ABS sensor signal became corrupted.
A fast motorway run home didn't see it reoccur but regardless I'll investigate before its next run out.
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Do you ever date turn on things that really pull a lot of amps like the headlights ? 😋
Nice weekend away 👍
On the 955 -> 958 (1st to 3rd gen) Cayennes the scuttle drains have large rubber duck bills to stop water coming up them from the wheel arch area. Nobody ever clears them so lots of water builds up and over spills into the cabin/floor area. The major canbus cabling runs in this area and corrodes.
My carpets are dry and the drains were one of the first things I did however I have noticed auxillary systems have been pulling the voltage down (headlights, heated seats etc) and especially at slow engine speeds. Usually the first thing that indicates low voltage is a '4wd' error of the transfer box actuator (see previous posts). The lower voltage/current slows the actuator so feedback isn't on time and it throws the 4wd fault.
The car still starts okay so the battery voltage is fine but I might need to look at canbus wiring in the near future. Still not complaining for £500
Being serious rather than teasy I'd check voltage at the alternator at different engine speeds and at lots of different points on the loom with things turned off/on to look for loss/resistance in the loom.
Then think more seriously about the alternator and the systems controlling it. Even at fast idle healthy alternator voltage will be above nominal battery voltage. The problem is that modern cars vary alternator voltage to save fuel rather than being dumb like they were years back and will drop voltage even at normal running speeds if the black box says electrical demand is low.
I'd suggest checking earths but that really would be teaching my grandmother RIP to suck eggs.
I'll be chasing down the cause of an abs warning light that came on in my wife's (much less exciting) Hyundai i10 this weekend.
While your logic Rusty seems reasonable, I wonder if you're over thinking. It could just be a bit of grime on the wheel speed sensor. Wouldn't it be wise to check the easy things first? Read the codes, inspect appropriate corner for grimy or faulty sensor, before pursuing the low voltage investigation?
Small update - the ABS signal fault was a rear sensor/crap stuck to the bearing race magnet's.
A few weeks back I drilled the old sensor and managed to get all the bits out, carefully cleaned the crap off the bearing and it's been fine since. MrsRNP has taken it to Edinburgh for the show she's doing in the Fringe and it's been fine.
However! I think this car might be for sale now - the main reason for it was camping roadtrips with my buddy. Now he's gone it seems a bit pointless keeping it. We've just cancelled a big upcoming roadtrip that we were originally doing with Bert as it wouldn't have felt right without him.
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Well diagnosed Neilnevil ! 😉 you owe him a pint Rusty 😋
Ooh, I'll give you 500 quid for it!
More helpfully, don't be too hasty selling it. Sad as it is right now, it's still very raw. Your appetite for travel or the car might change in a few months.
I'll second what @tthew says don't be hasty with the selling. The next rescue may need it, though you are some months from that. (Another thing not to rush at while raw especially if you're going with the same breed).
Top tip let the rescue service know Bert has passed on, they may contact you with a candidate once they deem you may be ready.
I'll third what the others have said - sad as it is there may be another Bert around the corner.
That said - I think the 958 is a better car for the vast majority.... Especially the 3.0L diesel.
Well, when I say "the vast majority" what I really mean is you given what we can see is your use case!
Lucky guess, but glad it's fixed. Quicker than my wife's i10. My mate's cheap code reader shows no faults, currently waiting to borrow a better reader before I go at random corners 😀
We've cancelled the 'big trip' were going to do but the tunnel crossing is non refundable so we are going to go to the family place in Perpignan. We've driven there many times but I've not been in the summer whilst we've had Bert as it was always too warm for him so it feels 'okay' to go.
MrsRNP took the £500er to Edinburgh for the fringe show she's part of to leave me 'her' 958 to fettle.
I've been working through a number of things to baseline it into my ownership.
This has continued with duckbill removal! These are the scuttle drains that exit behind the front wheel arch liners. They get blocked and soak the footwell carpets. Also whilst in this area and for any Cayenne owner - there is a mud/gravel trap behind the front shocks. It took a lot of hoovering and hosepipe jet to dislodge and clear everything. The 958 is clean but my 955 has some surface rust in these recesses that i treated.
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Whilst the car is on 'stands I've cleaned and Fertan'd the underside and rear end. For a 14year old car it's in great condition but light surface rust has just started so this was removed and Fertan applied and left to work it's magic.
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Another job was to stick some new tyres on. I like Continental's so went with their Cross Contact UHP, it's not as aggressive as a normal All Terrain but is a bit more off road worthy than a regular SUV tyre.
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One rubbish thing about the 958 compared to my 955 is the rear seats. On mine the seat squab pulls up and forward with a clever design, the rears then fold into the void and you have a flat load area perfect for luggage and doggo's! On the 958 the seat back doesnt fold anywhere near flat. As a result i'd removed the rear seats and was CADing up a Goose Gear style seat delete. This isn't needed now so I've bolted the rear seats back in.
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A few more jobs to do over the weekend....
Tiptronic (it's a common 8speed Asain Warner TR-80) gearbox drained, filter changed and refilled today.
Two of the cover bolts would have snapped if I'd not been careful. The majority of cover bolts are in blind holes so are easy to undo, however the rear two are through holes and let water in to corrode the steel bolts into the aluminium body.
Prodigious use of Wurth Rost off and gentle back and forth action eventually got them free.
Changed the filter being careful to remove the original o-ring, filling was straightforward enough with my cheapo Amazon pump up pressure oil filler. Reset the adaptions with my Foxwell
The ZF filter kit is ~£60, oil was ~£80 (it's cheapo MVATF / WS rather than fancier 3309 of my 6speed 955).
Gear shifts don't feel any different and were good before but the removed filter was date stamped 2011 and the oil was black. Porsche's service schedule of 160k miles is clearly set by accountants and not engineers.
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Porsche's service schedule of 160k miles is clearly set by accountants and not engineers.
If the head office accountant was canny they'd be every 50,000 miles for the benefit of the recurring revenue from maintenance.
The lawyers would want a weekly change for liability reasons. 😉
If it's lasted that long it at's an engineer at work. What's that expression something about...
Any fool can build a bridge that's strong. It takes an engineer to make one that almost but doesn't quite collapse.
@RustyNissanPrairie in the picture above is all that gubbins full of fluid after you put the cover back on?
@RustyNissanPrairie in the picture above is all that gubbins full of fluid after you put the cover back on?
It's the valve body of the gearbox - the filter has been removed at this point. The cover bolts to the underside then 6litre of ATF hydraulic fluid is pumped in (there's 2-3litres on the torque converter that can't be drained). The cover has a 'level tube' that drains the excess when the gearbox is at between 35-45'C, the drain plug is then fitted and the adaptions reset in its ECU.
Today I checked the air filter that the Porsche independent fitted for the £3k service & repair my friend/work colleague/previous owner had done. It turns out they'd fitted a Febi (non OEM) dusty conditions filter! And fitted it badly at that. I replaced it with an OEM Mann normal conditions filter. They didn't change the fuel filter either which should be done every service on the diesel (I fitted a Mann). It's no wonder I service and maintain my own cars.
However the most important job was to change the faded rear badge. Genuine Porsche is £130, AliExpress was £14 delivered - thankfully it came with a fitting template.
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Decision time on this car, I have too many cars and don't need them all now that Bert has gone so..........
.....my Berlingo (Peugeot Partner Escapade) is going. For reference it's the very rare and bulletproof 2.0Hdi (50+ mpg), the Escapade means it has 30+ mm suspension travel over a comparable Berlingo with a big chunky bashplate underneath and light guard's. 2004 but with only 120k miles. Great little bike/doggo hauler, owned by me so is perfect.
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I briefly drove my £500 Cayenne tonight after MrsRNP returned home from Edinburgh in it and it is such an amazing car that feels special to be in. The other thing with Bert leaving us is that I'm commuting to work on my bike again (I have a Trek ebike), I've literally got two cars sat outside doing nothing hence Brian is for sale......
It's also the car that the vet did the deed in with me and MrsRNP stroking Bert as he passed away. As peaceful and dignified as it was I don't want to keep the car that has that memory attached to it. Whereas the £500 Cayenne was part of Bert's big roadtrips - Skye, CZ, caravaning etc. So the Cayenne and it's happy memories stay instead.
For anyone following this thread you'll know that our life/travel plans have recently changed. We cancelled our 'Bert big trip' but were unable to cancel the Chunnel crossing so as a result we've driven to the small family bolthole in Perpignan (near the Spanish border) in the recently-ish acquired diesel 958. As it's our 20th wedding anniversary we've meandered down via Troyes and the spa town of Vichy and had a wonderful time given the circumstances.
The Cayenne is built for this sort of road trip, the boot is full to capacity with luggage and paddle board. The seating was supremely comfortable for the 22hours we spent in total traveling down. And the big 3.0l diesel was in its element stretching it's legs on perfect French roads and 130km/h autoroutes.
Fuel economy was 36.7mpg compared to the 25.4mpg that the £500 petrol Cayenne did going to Prague and back.
A work colleague has just done a similar French roadtrip in a 2.0l diesel Audi A6 and that did 45.5mpg so it shows what the SUV form factor and 4wd drivetrain of the Cayenne costs the fuel economy.
I need to get the 'family bike' running again as it gets locked to the rack all summer so is need of some TLC before any dérapages et roues arrière.
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Nice..... It's a great car for those journeys. I bet you haven't added carplay/AA yet though ..... that's massively worth it. 👍
Nice..... It's a great car for those journeys. I bet you haven't added carplay/AA yet though ..... that's massively worth it. 👍
No haven't done it yet, tbh MrsRNP sets her car bar up with her tins of premixed Gordons G&T and does the navigation and direction on her phone. Bluetooth phone music is fine for now and I like scrolling through French Rad-io listening to Robbie Williams but I'll probably get round to the car play mod at some point.
.....and we're back home.
2633miles at an average of 37.2mpg - it was doing 40.4mpg on the flatter/cooler autoroutes of Northern France where Aircon wasn't required. Not bad for a 4x4 with a boot full of beer and wine doing stints at 130km/h in utter comfort or being surefooted coming up a water logged A1.
Not sure what the future holds for both of these cars in my ownership but for these types of road trips they are brilliant cars.
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One step forward.......two steps back with our 958 Cayenne.
The driver's door has always had a small crease on the lower swage line - it was there when my work colleague originally bought the car. I had a mobile dent guy attend to it this week and they've done a good job. I removed the door card and speaker beforehand as it's quite an involved process.
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For anyone following this thread you'll notice I changed its gearbox oil a month or so ago, it's done 2500-3000k miles since but has recently started to have a problem.
When the car is cold started and drive or reverse is selected it moves a few metres and then losses all drive. If you give it a few more revs drive is then re-engaged albeit with a sudden jolt. Once moving the car is fine, shifts are fine, warm restarts are fine, it's just an issue when cold/left over night.
I drained the oil today, removed the pan, undid the filter and it fell off which was a bad sign! Examined the o-ring and it's split as per the photo. Fault found!
The design of the filter and o-ring position is crap. There's two ways of assembling it.
You presume you put the o-ring on the taper of the filter then push it up into the housing - the problem is the o-ring diameter is stretched from being on the taper and too large to fit into the housing.
The other way and the way I did it is that you put the o-ring into the housing and then push the filter into place. In theory the taper pushes into the o-ring that's constrained by the housing and all's good......except I think when I did it I think the taper didn't go into the o-ring and it squashed the o-ring against the thin end of the filter taper.
I cut up the (ZF) filter and it looks like the plastic case has deformed and bent downwards which adds to my theory of the o-ring being in the wrong position.
Playing around with the remains of the case it is possible to put the o-ring on the taper and then twist and wiggle and get the o-ring into the housing but I don't know if this is going to be possible with the full size of the complete filter.
A replacement filter and o-ring is on order, the car needs to be back in one piece ASAP as we're going on holiday Scotland in it next weekend! In the meantime MrsRNP is using our backup £500 Cayenne!
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The design of the filter and o-ring position is crap.
You're not kidding,a lot blind faith needed there.
Now that you know what's going on,would it help sanding/filing the taper on the new filter, give it a better lead in.
Was that Porsche filter.... I'm guessing not.
I wonder whether an original part would be better?
Was that Porsche filter.... I'm guessing not.
I wonder whether an original part would be better?
The original filter is made by Roki of Japan. The gearbox is made by Aisin Warner (part of Toyota), the filter I fitted was a ZF. Dimensionally it looked identical although I didn't measure anything.
I previously fitted a ZF filter to the 6speed Aisin 'box in my £500 955 Cayenne and had no issues with it. The design on this 8speed is a bit crap - the Aisin gearbox manual instructions for fitting the filter are overly convoluted for what should just be an o-ring sealed component..... and my elderly dad had just called down and was nattering about something. Its his fault!
I think I'm going to just post everything about my cars in this one thread. It's mainly now copy and pasted over from Pistonheads where it has more of an audience but it might be relevant here as well.
I think my ethos is to mend and look after my stuff and keep things going as long as possible. For me that's the most economical and must be better for the environment?
I cannot say no to a bargain - that's the only reason I've ended up with two Porsches, if an EV came along for the equally as cheap price I will have one.
Anyway here's a post about my 21year old Berlingo.
My Berlingo is the Peugeot Partner version (same difference), it's the Escapade model with the 90hp 2.0Hdi engine. The Escapade has 30+ mm suspension increase over a normal Berlingo, big steel sump & fuel line bash plates, headlamp brush guards, wheelarch mouldings, and 15" wheels.
I bought it during Covid for doggo, hiking and mountain bike duties, it replaced a rotted out MK7 Transit.
It had 85k miles and it's now on 122k, it's a 2004 model
Out of these two cars in this picture one cost 5x times more than the other one did.......
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I'm fastidious about car maintenance and when I buy car it is baselined up to my level. It came with a large file of paperwork and bills which included the big ticket items on these namely a replacement rear axle and the clutch. It had a full set of new Continentals.
I then brought it into my tinkering space and replaced the following;
Lower control arms
TRE's
Springs
Upper strut bearings
Brake discs, calipers, pads, rear drums, cylinders, handbrake mechanism.
MAF
Timing belt, idlers and waterpump
De-stickered it
It was fully cleaned underneath and all cavities and sills were sprayed with Dinitrol.
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In the time since it's had 2x wheel bearings, a CV joint, alternator and I upgraded the starter motor to the more powerful version for quicker winter starting. I found a cheap used engine ECU with a stage1 130hp map (standard is 90hp). Serviced every 5k since.
In all honesty it's the best car I've ever owned! It's super useful, nippy, has lovely soft squishy pot hole absorbing suspension, and is the most economical car I have and will ever own. It does +50mpg and quality OEM parts are dirt cheap! It's basic and really easy to work on.
There isn't much else to say - it just keeps plodding on! Anyway, a few pictures.
Berlingo - the car nobody wants but the car everybody needs!
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Shit forum! ^ Imagine some photos of a Berlingo being useful and looking photogenic.
.........It does however have a downside!
I've run out of fuel in it 5 times!!!!!! (I can't remember ever doing it in any other car)
I'm a clever bloke (and an engineer), and I can afford the fuel for it - I'm no longer a skint 18year old.........but there is just something about the fuel gauge (it works fine, I've tested it), the red area of the gauge and the needle stop that in combination with its frugal nature have me thinking "I'll fill it up tomorrow".
It then gives a single cough and dies instantly. One occasion it coughed and died on a major roundabout but I had enough momentum to roll into the fuel station. Thankfully it has a fuel priming bulb so is easy to restart.
The worst time was the dual carriageway out of my town when taking the dog for a walk. It coughed and I just managed to coast to a small grassed area. I then did the walk of shame home for my familiar fuel can. I'd like to think I've learnt my lesson.........but 5x times? It's clearly the car/Peugeot's fault!!!!!
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The £500 XC90 rebuild has had a little bit of attention.
The rear Haldex / differential unit had new Timken bearings last week and is at the stage of being assembled.
I made some acetal seal insertion tools to set the seals at the correct depth for the rear differential and gearbox output.
And I had ChatGPT change the image of the 955 Cayenne from earlier in the thread to one of an XC90. The 500 part of the logo represents the £500 that the XC90 (and Cayenne) cost.
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I had a Mondog pool car that did what your Berlingo does... Fuel light on, ran out exactly 10 mikes later... It was shit. Keep posting your car content, it's really interesting especially to someone who's car maintenance activities are now limited to wrangling AdBlue mostly down the side if the bodywork...
I had a Mondog pool car that did what your Berlingo does... Fuel light on, ran out exactly 10 miles later... It was shit. Keep posting your car content, it's really interesting especially to someone who's car maintenance activities are now limited to wrangling AdBlue mostly down the side of the bodywork...
Funnily enough I had an XC90 from new [for 12 years] before the 958.
Quality-wise there's no comparison: the XC90 did about 70k miles in my ownership and bits were literally falling off it when I sold it to WBAC, the fibre optic (MOST) stereo had stopped working and it had stopped being AWD years before - no idea what went wrong with it.
The 958 still looks the same, inside and out, as it did when I bought it (at 2 years old) 11 years ago - and it's done 140k!
Funnily enough I had an XC90 from new [for 12 years] before the 958.
I should add that the XC90 was great for us at the time - with three kids under the age of 2 plus 2 dogs we needed all the space we could get!
For anyone stil following this thread.......
I'd left the 958 Cayenne with gearbox issues and a split o-ring on the filter. I ordered a replacement filter from 911Design as I'd chopped up the ZF filter with the split o-ring. It was from their OE match range so I was expecting something halfway between Chinese branded shite and ZF or Roki (OEM). What turned up was a Triscan branded filter (Chinese shite). On Autodoc they are the cheapest of any brand listed at £12 (genuine Porsche is £130).
Suffice to say I won't order from them again and I should have ordered a genuine filter.
Anyway I needed the car back together so I stuck the filter in and filled it with £100 of Ravenol gearbox oil.
Gear shifts are as they should be and the loss of drive symptoms from the split o-ring are a thing of the past.
We then loaded it up and headed north to Scotland. We are staying on the bank of Loch Tummel near Pitlochry - we last stayed here 3 years ago. The autumnal colours are amazing and the car is in its elements on fast A-roads and also tight nadgery lochside single track.
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The local bridges are interesting, the Coronation bridge is a steel lattice steel rope suspended bridge, the Clunie bridge is very rare in that it's of aluminium construction.
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The whole area is part of the Grampian/Tummel hydroelectric scheme - as an engineer I find this fascinating. The car is pictured here at Clunie memorial arch for the men who died during its construction.
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Mpg was 40.4mpg but has dropped a bit whilst up here. Not much else to report, the car is running well and a nice place to be again for this sort of roadtrip.
I've bought another cheap Cayenne! This one came from eBay after a few beers.
It's a 2006 Turbo 955, hopefully I don't think bore score is going to be an issue with this one but it looks like the air suspension is a bit deflated as it's looking quite slammed!
Slightly the wrong colour to match my 955 so it might get repainted at some point.
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Teaser...🙃
Small update.
XC90.
Finished rebuilding the rear differential with new bearings and seals. It's now assembled in the rear subframe.
Serviced the Haldex unit with new filter and seals, fully cleaned the old oil out of the clutch pack and galleys. Made a tool to torque the input coupling.
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Cayenne's and Berlingo
Gave their undersides a good wash after the recent road salt, sprayed Fertan on the rear subframe and ACF50 on the shocks and springs ready for winter. Did all three cars similarly.
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This forum software is shit.
Yes, it is.
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