£52 for the microscopic 3d printed clock button seems very reasonable.
You really would have to be a fool to run one of these unless you were a bangernomics guru like the OP
It's easy to see how they become 'economically unviable', parts are expensive and there aren't aftermarket alternatives. And then there's labour on top - Porsche specialists won't be cheap.
Spend so far is ~£1000
Car £500
Service items ~£300
Exhaust bits £200
How long do you think all of the work you’ve done would have taken at a garage?
I love the idea of a £500 car, I absolutely haven’t got the skills to any of that diagnosis or fixing.
My Berlingo was £625 (at peak Covid prices when any other Berlingo with an MOT was £2k+). I think it too a day to tick off the "MOT-prep" list of jobs, and then another day to service and clean it to a state you'd actually want to drive. So over a weekend it went from scrap value to a decent car.
The issue with old cars isn't so much the time/skills to fix them, the fixing bit is usually very straightforward, just follow the manual and bolt/unbolt stuff in the right order. It's being able to identify problems, and then splitting them into;
MOT problems (i.e. needs fixing because it's unsafe even if it has 364 days left on the certificate), serious problems that will cost money if not fixed (e.g. engine faults), and stuff that doesn't matter (e.g. a rear seatbelt not working, if you don't need to seat 5 people, just cut it with scissors as if it's not there it's not a problem).
"The issue with old cars isn’t so much the time/skills to fix them, the fixing bit is usually very straightforward, just follow the manual and bolt/unbolt stuff in the right order."
I'm not so sure - I just had to have the front coil springs done on my 10 yr old leaf. An easy job you might think but apparently it was a total nightmare and took three times as long as expected, plus they needed a few tricks to get it sorted without destroying a bunch of other parts as everything was so corroded. Luckily it was a friend of a friend doing it otherwise I would have been charged an absolute fortune instead of a small one!
Small update.
Going aurora borealis spotting in the porker the other night reminded me that the tailgate struts needed changing (common Cayenne fault). It's not very romantic trying to both sit on the boot lip with the sudden death of the clothes prop giving way and the tailgate decapitating us.
Removed rear C pillar trim and a small section of roof lining. Few clips and trim to access the struts. 30mins of fiddling and swearing had them replaced. Replaced everything - boot works properly again.
Cost for all 4 struts was £80 for Stabilus OEM.
The front differential is noisy - again it's a common Cayenne fault. The official Porsche service schedule is 160k miles! The front diff only holds 1litre of oil.
I changed it a few weeks ago and went to a heavier gear oil (thicker) ran it for 2weeks then dropped it again. It was black with a shimmer so definitely on its way out.
Replacement diff sourced for £130, along with replacement Corteco seals. Plan is to change it in the next few weeks.
Fixed bulb dimmer switch that had been pushed through🤷♂️
Drug dealer spec rear window tints removed.
Cost so far ~ £1300
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Isn't the tax another £400 per year that should be counted? Guess it's lucky it skipped the really penalty tax bands by a year or so
Isn’t the tax another £400 per year that should be counted? Guess it’s lucky it skipped the really penalty tax bands by a year or so
anything post March 2006 is £700, this is <£400.
A work colleague is looking to replace his tired Freelander2, there isn't much pre 2006 that has okay MOT history or isn't completely rotten. He's offered me £2k for this Cayenne but I'm not selling.
anything post March 2006 is £700, this is <£400.
.... My 2012 is £365.
Have completed the top level of Man-Maths today!
£500 tow car
£16000 caravan
(Collect it Thursday)
He’s offered me £2k for this Cayenne but I’m not selling.
Having read this thread I'd happily hand over £5000 for it in its current condition. Not that I'd buy a Cayenne of course, interesting thread though, for a petrolhead thread. 🙂
Stuck for something to buy MrsRNP for her 50th I figured nothing quite says happy birthday like a caravan!
T@B 320, German made 2 berth. Collected from near Gateshead, campsite booked for this weekend near Bala.
Porsche did 32mpg on the way to collect and just over 20mpg with caravan attached.
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That looks a plush way to overnight 😃
Are you still going down the over landing route on the car?
Thanks for the update. Great thread.
That looks a plush way to over [s]night[/s] [b]take[/b]
FTFY
I have to say that you look more thrilled than the missus with her birthday present.
Looks great though!
Loving this thread - and happy birthday to Mrs RNP!
That's a neat little caravan.
Sixteenthousandpounds? Blimey.
Oh, and Happy Birthday to Mrs Bangernomics... 👍🥳
Snap
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@RustyNissanPrairie pretty good had it for over 10 years now. No complaints only issues the front seal around the window needs the seal taken off and a squeeze of silkaflex to keep it waterproof.
Sixteenthousandpounds? Blimey.
You could buy 32 Porsches for that.
Re. Bangernomics and our caravan;
All caravans are mental prices for a bit of cardboard on wheels. We looked at Eriba/Hymer and they are £30k+ (new).
This T&B is ~£20k new when specced up.
We did miss a bargain T@B earlier this year but didn't move quick enough.
We've worked out that depreciation alone is £800 a year on it (IIRC they first made them in 2005). We went with a caravan as we have 2x tow cars - this Porsche and the XC90 that im rebuilding. The fact our tow cars each cost £500 means we can spend what would normally be car budget on a nice caravan instead (man maths!)
Surely with your interest in overlanding, and mechanical abilities, you should get a unimog or pinzgauer motor home conversion!
"neilnevill
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Surely with your interest in overlanding, and mechanical abilities, you should get a unimog or pinzgauer motor home conversion!"
I once went to buy a radio/command bodied Zil 131 as MrsRNP was half listening when I blabbed on about multifuel and being free to run on petrol station mis-fuellings. She went bat shit mental when we arrived and she saw it. We bought a roof tent for our Defender instead.
Can't imagine why Mrs RNP had a problem with the Zil; just the job for popping down to the shops!
Surely with your interest in overlanding, and mechanical abilities, you should get a unimog or pinzgauer motor home conversion!
Where can you realistically make use of them in the UK/Europe?
What's that matter?!
Where can you realistically make use of them in the UK/Europe?
The school run, you'll barely feel a parked Range Rover
I don't normally like caravans.... but I LOVE that/those ones.
How much?
I’m reading this with pangs of jealousy - I so wish I had the skills to do this - right up my street (but I can only manage it with bikes, not cars!)
kelvin - caravan price on previous page.
Birthday update.
Arrived on a site near Bala North Wales late last night so just parked it and quickly set up. Our friends in 'Lucy Walker' (Jay is a mountaineering nutter) the VW Crafter arrived shortly after us.
Turned caravan around in the morning so the door/sunshade is out of the wind.
Bacon and egg buttys always taste better when camping!
Had a mooch at the awesome petrol stations in Bala, currently having a beer.
Staying on here till Tuesday then heading towards the Shropshire border to see other friends then heading a bit further north as another friend is coming camping with us for a night then back home on the Easter weekend.
Car tows brilliantly - doesn't have a huge amount of torque but using the 'box in manual mode you can keep the revs up a bit and keep it in the sweet spot.
Fuel economy wise - towing it's doing 20-21mpg.
Not towing it did 31.3mpg going to Gateshead up the A1 to collect the caravan.
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As a bloke in a Zafira* with a blow up tent I can only applaud.
* currently worth 9 Porsches
We have that Isabella canopy too (probably worth 2 Porsches). If you read the installation instructions you'll note erection to be done topless and beers to be brought on completion.
I hope the measurement if value in terms of the number of Porsches catches on. In fact, if appropriate I may go over and gently troll the £5k enduro bike thread with this now. 😀
Had a mooch at the awesome petrol stations in Bala
I always think those petrol stations should have an F1 crew on them....
...and we're back home!
We went from Bala to over near the Shropshire border and a great little farm campsite. They had 3 hardstanding pitches which we had all to ourselves. Lovely family who ran the farm/camping, immaculate facilities - would highly recommend!
The weather was awful with local flooding but Greta and T@b(atha) handled it all fine!
From there to Nottingham area - the site was rubbish but we met up with a friend who stayed over in her tent. Visited Sherwood forest which was great.
Regarding Greta - I knew Mk1/955 Cayennes are massively capable before I bought it but what an amazing bit of kit it is (especially for £500!). I've had it in low range with the centre diff locked towing Tabatha through muddy fields and floods through to 4 of us and Bert blasting along Welsh A roads in utter comfort.
The T@B caravan is great, it tows well, is big enough for the pair of us and Bert, well built and nice and snug when the weather is awful.
600miles and 20mpg - not great but for £500 I'm not complaining.
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A similar era Cayenne gets Pistonheads shed of the week.
It also costs 4xPorsches!
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-features-sheds/porsche-cayenne-s--shed-of-the-week/48435
Just because it's a cheap car doesn't mean it gets cheap parts!
New front discs and pads cost 0.5 of a Porsche (plus £60 for new caliper pipes, pad fitting kit and wear sensors).
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Front diff swop last weekend (noisy pinion bearings).
All bolted back together now but rebuilding front brakes as they were a bit grotty.
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New OEM seals fitted to replacement before fitment.
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Front propshaft and drive shafts disconnected.
Suspension, roll bar and steering shaft separated from bodywork, subframe lowered and supported. Space to remove differential.
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This is why I like working on quality older cars - corrosion resistant fasteners.
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Thankfully I have a good assistant on hand to double check my work
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Calipers removed and cleaned up, piston and seals okay but dust covers replaced.
New Brembo discs&pads/bleed nipples/rigid pipes/disc bolts/pad retainers/wear detection cables. Full brake bleed.
Front end suspension components cleaned and Fertan applied whilst brakes removed.
All back in one piece now and been for a spin in it. The £130 differential was a good punt - the drivetrain is quiet as it should be now.
Ready for bank holiday caravanning - at least you won't be stuck behind us!
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