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How are the newspapers allowed to get away with such inflammatory reporting and blatant lies?
Looks like I just missed Corbs in Glasgow as I walked to work...
That was 15 years ago! FFS, not like May has 'changed her mind' at all in the past.
I hope all it does is stimulate his supporters to ensure they get their vote out effectively. i read somewhere 1 million new voter registrations, hopefully a lot of young people with a vested interest in their future this time around.
If you look at the Conservative manifesto, they want a "truly free press". I wonder what they mean by that?
We should at the very least compel our press to be impartial and to print retractions on the front page if reports are found to be incorrect or inaccurate.
That's the problem with people. Tribalist knuckledraggers with a projection-bias bordering on personality disorder.
[quote=Malvern Rider ]That's the problem with people. Tribalist knuckledraggers with a projection-bias bordering on personality disorder.
normal people vote tory. I'm not sure why they do but they do.
dismissing/insulting them won't make them change their minds.
normal people vote tory.
'Normal people' (whatever that is) clearly vote all kinds of ways.
dismissing/insulting them won't make them change their minds.
How's that working out for the Sun/Mail/Express?
First the Mail headline is correct - they are in trouble if we don't vote May.
Second, we were discussing Abbott last night. I think she is ill and it's something serious she doesn't want to talk about. It's not just the fumbled lines / maths, her character seems different from the arguments on the pundit shows she used to do. I'm sure we can all think of a few condition that might cause that. If that's right, and it may not be, a lot of Tories are going to look like right gits given what they are saying today.
Any truth in the rumour that May is spending the last day of campaigning in the Ecuadorian embassy?
I've not been paying much attention to TV coverage but I saw her latest interview and thought she looked very obviously ill.I think she is ill and it's something serious she doesn't want to talk about. It's not just the fumbled lines / maths, her character seems different from the arguments on the pundit shows she used to do
[b]they[/b] are in trouble
Nice!
Second, we were discussing Abbott last night. I think she is ill and it's something serious she doesn't want to talk about.
She's now on indefinite sick leave.
normal people vote tory. I'm not sure why they do but they do.
Almost without exception, a majority of people in this country vote liberal/ left.
Need to keep those front page images for the next time someone suggests the mainstream media doesn't have a right wing bias.
Im no natural labourite, but i like Diane Abbott, witty, erudite, principled, entertaining on political TV shows.
Get well soon
Indeed
According to the Met Office, heavy rain in Wales and south-west England will move into central and northern England, then into Scotland and Northern Ireland, followed by showers. The South East may well stay dry.
Damn.
I guess they are saving "Corbyn to Axe the Queen" for tomorrow mornings front page. ๐
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40184817 ]Some gloom for the left.[/url] Despite everything Kuenssberg still thinks it ain't happening, and she has her ear to the ground.
Looks like I just missed Corbs in Glasgow as I walked to work...
That's disappointing. You could have asked him about trail centres. ๐
molgrips, im resigned to it
on the plus side having seen how badly May has handled the campaign and had so many weaknesses in her past as home sec exposed, its innevitible that theyll make a pigs ear of brexit- she really is crap!, maybe even enough to get a second referendum ? ๐
So your 'best' case scenario now results in Theresa (who opposed Brexit) getting replaced with Rees-Brexit-Mogg ๐
Whoever is in charge of the tories is kinda secondary to their paymasters who will remain the same in either case.
So your 'best' case scenario now results in Theresa (who opposed Brexit) getting replaced with Rees-Brexit-Mogg
Im not sure Id want to see the country run completely into the ground ninfan!
ive been resigned a tory victory for ages, its just been nice watching them panic over the polls!
Actually ninfan, JRM as a Tory leader would be a godsend for all other parties.
Even as PM given I doubt half the Tory party would vote for his policies.
Can't really see him getting in though.
Are you getting your gloating in early ninfan? ๐
There's no need. The right whingers are going to win anyway, so you can gloat on Friday. Or is your schedule busy then?
Whereas I would have thought that Labours finest hour involved actually winning an election!
Setting up the NHS I'd expect.
Setting up the NHS I'd expect.
Isn't that the type of thing that you can only do after you win an election?
See the national minimum wage as another example
Yes it is.
Well vote Labour then ninfan.
Just had the usual letter for the incumbent racist ****, he's such an odious prick.
She's not even bothering trying to target undecided voters ๐
https://mobile.twitter.com/theresa_may/status/872410324862939136
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/07/maps-charts-showing-state-play-eve-general-election/
Majority of about 100.
Towards the top end of Jamba's prediction....
Towards the top end of Jamba's prediction....
Or the bottom end of his previous prediction! That's the thing about predictions, make enough of them and one of them will be right...
Or the bottom end of his previous prediction! That's the thing about predictions, make enough of them and one of them will be right...
I'm fairly sure that the Conservatives will be happy enough with a majority that size. It certainly won't be seen as a victory for Corbyn.
I love the Torygraph's line that May is more trusted on Brexit than Labour.
The weak and wobbly Mrs U-Turn is a better bet on Brexit? Wow.
Someone else has started referring to her as the Tin Lady - which seems apt.
Latest tory party political broadcast
I love the Torygraph's line that May is more trusted on Brexit than Labour.
She is going to be rather deeply in debt to the pressbarons for their assistance.
Wonder what new things she is going to give them to try and get them to maintain the pretence.
no levesson 2 for starters
Have you read through that Twitter feed of Maybot you linked to?
Just wow. ๐
I had to double check it wasn't a joke account. If the replies reflect the mood of the nation..
Brilliant innit?
Agreed. Wow.
Forward it to Chewkw.
@igm just going back to the polling issue and your question. Polling companies are not paid based upon whether the poll truns out to have been correct, they are hired to generate news - oohh tye polls moved / said something surprising, so a bit like England at a football championships the press build them up then knock them down.
@oldnpastit its quite wrong to rely on this "advanced mathematics" the polling companies allegedly use. They don't, its a massive fudge with all sorts of adjustments of the polling data and that data is flawed. I am signed up to a few polling panels and I can eneter what I like, location (for consituency), prior voting history, current intention, even personal detals like ethnicity, age etc. With no underlying data verification any analysis is garbage. Also they are exrapolating from 1-2,000 people to the whole voting population ๐ฏ
[b]75-100[/b] ๐
If it does work out that way that's a stunning victory for May from 17 to such a sizable majority. Substantially stronger position for Brexit and an extra 2 years post 2019 to get new deals signed up and working well.
Jamba - my father set up a small polling company once upon a time, and he was one of the pioneers of telephone polls from the academic end. I've worked on polls and with the results of polls in a television studio on election night.
I'm fully aware that polls are there as a news item. Do you also think TV companies stage road traffic accidents?
jambalaya - Member
75-100If it does work out that way that's a stunning victory for May from 17 to such a sizable majority. Substantially stronger position for Brexit and an extra 2 years post 2019 to get new deals signed up and working well.
Well it will be stunning given her abysmal performance but still 50 seats down from your original prediction.
PS - my father also developed algorithms to spot people who were making data up - like people employed by polling companies who just went down the pub and filled in a few forms with their mates. Join all the panels you want reputable companies will weed you out - the pop up polls in the Mail probably won't.

