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Posted by: andrewh

Core F1 memory of the copy of Autosoort covering that party. Not often you see an F1 boss playing in the band

Wasn't that 1995? EJ on drums, Damon Hill on guitar, Jonny Herbert singing Jonny B Goode, and a very awkward looking DC on maracas 

Damon was there as well but I’m pretty sure it was 96 I was there for my 40th. DC would have been awkward, do t remember if he was there or not that year

 


 
Posted : 20/03/2025 2:50 pm
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I'm sure it was a regular thing for a few years in the nineties. 


 
Posted : 20/03/2025 3:25 pm
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Probably both then. I just remember Herbert singing Jonny B Goode the year he won 


 
Posted : 20/03/2025 3:53 pm
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Sprint pole for Lewis! 😀 🏎️

 

And what does Red Bull do to their drivers!? Lawson last, Max 2nd! 🤷‍♂️


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 8:25 am
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Just watched sprint highlights in my lunch hour! It was a great result for Lewis.
Norris made a couple of errors, which is a shame but seems to be a pattern there when under pressure. Hopefully he'll correct it for the full race.

Shocker for Lawson and the more he struggles like this, the worse it will get. Perez must be feeling pretty smug, right now.

Lawson was almost 2 second off the pole time, which seems like a long way away.


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 1:04 pm
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If Lawson gets the hoof then who do they have to replace him? Bottas maybe? 


 
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The sensible option would be Tsunoda into Red Bull and Arvid Lindblad into RB. But that can't happen till August due to Lindblad's age! 😀 

As it is I don't think they've got a back-up for Lawson failing.

And Zak Brown was predicting this week that Max is on his way to Mercedes next season. So Red Bull really are in the 💩 then!


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 1:17 pm
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It should be Yuki but...

 

I thought Tsunoda and Lawson were in the wrong seats, I think I'm right 

I also thought Sainz and Antonelli were in the wrong ones. Not so sure now, Antonelli has started well and Sainz hasn't done too badly choosing Williams, that car has potential 


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 1:20 pm
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Obvious thing would be Hadjar to the big team and Lawson to the junior team to get a bit more experience. But Alpine have three drivers for two seats so who knows.


 
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Posted by: beaker2135

Damon was there as well but I’m pretty sure it was 96 I was there for my 40th. DC would have been awkward, do t remember if he was there or not that year

I was, but only on the Saturday! I remember getting to Silverstone and seeing a long queue to get through the gates. I had bought tickets in advance but wasn't sure if I was in the right queue so sent my gf off to find out. I was in the wrong queue, so as she walked back to me she called out 'Damon, this way' and the whole queue fell deathly silent. Great moments in life!


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 2:08 pm
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Just saw this on bluesky...

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Team bosses on talk of abandoning the '26 F1 engines - Christian Horner: "Ten past midnight and Cinderella has left the building." Zak Brown: "I'm not sure how you put the genie back in the bottle." Oliver Oakes: "The train has left the station now for 2026..."

https://bsky.app/profile/adamcooperf1.bsky.social/post/3lkus552eak2l

 

Pretty wild that this is even being discussed at this point.  Would think it's too late to do anything about it in reality.


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 2:13 pm
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Red Bull have built a whole new factory to build a 2026 engine! No way this was going to be binned at this late stage.

I don't even think it will be V10s for the next engine cycle. Middle-ground talk is of a V8 with some hybrid element.


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 2:22 pm
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Posted by: the-muffin-man

No way this was going to be binned at this late stage.

What engine would Audi use?

Who would supply Aston Martin with Honda engines?

Who would supply Red Bull with Ford engines?

Just click bait nonsense.


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 2:46 pm
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Obvious thing would be Hadjar to the big team and Lawson to the junior team to get a bit more experience

There’s a bit of “definition of insanity” about that. Yuki is the only one with a sniff of a chance of not imploding in that seat


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 3:01 pm
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RedBull don't seem to have many alternatives. They should hire someone to manage their driver development programme so they can nurture talent rather than letting Marko and Max do a tag team takedown on anyone in the second seat. Oh hang on...


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 3:07 pm
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Well I thought Hamilton was over the hill and lost his edge! 🙂


 
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Posted by: the-muffin-man

Red Bull have built a whole new factory to build a 2026 engine! No way this was going to be binned at this late stage.

I don't even think it will be V10s for the next engine cycle. Middle-ground talk is of a V8 with some hybrid element.

Agree, far more likely they'd increase fuel flow/boost limit/fuel amount for '27 if '26 turns out to be a dud.

There's also the possibility of adding front axle regen like the g3 Formula E cars have (again not for '26, more likely '28/29).

 


 
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Posted by: beaker2135

Damon was there as well but I’m pretty sure it was 96 I was there for my 40th. DC would have been awkward, do t remember if he was there or not that year

I was, but only on the Saturday! I remember getting to Silverstone and seeing a long queue to get through the gates. I had bought tickets in advance but wasn't sure if I was in the right queue so sent my gf off to find out. I was in the wrong queue, so as she walked back to me she called out 'Damon, this way' and the whole queue fell deathly silent. Great moments in life!

we had camping tickets that weekend and we blagged some platinum hospitality tickets off a tout. We had a great weekend living the highlife LOL

i haven’t been since but I’ll be 70 next year….

 


 
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Posted : 21/03/2025 8:00 pm
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I'm not sure why this talk of NA V10s has come about. Surely if they wanted to reduce cost/size/weight just dumping the hybrid element and increasing the capacity of the current engines could work?

I can't imagine many of the newer venues that have never had the old NA engines would be too happy.  There would be all sorts of noise/health/environmental objections to going back to the old screamers. 

Liberty want F1 to be family friendly entertainment, not an ear splitting environmental hazard...  

I cant see the old ways returning I'm afraid, especially as iirc both spa and Silverstone were being served noise complaints pre-hybtid.  


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 8:00 pm
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Redbull's problem is they want a clear no 1 and no 2 driver for the whole season, so no really good drivers will want to go there if they know there is no chance of them wining the championship

Merc, Ferrari, Aston & Mclaren seem to have a policy of letting team mates race and when it becomes clear that one of them is clearly ahead by miles and in a battle for the championship with another team then that driver gets treated as a no1 which i think is the best way to do it

Im surpised Redbull have not spoken to Bottas as i think he'd be quite happy to be a no 2 driver and has plenty of experince but i guess Redbull have to justify thier junior driver program and promote within, Perez wasnt part of that and did well for the first 2-3 years at Redbull


 
Posted : 21/03/2025 10:18 pm
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Excellent news of Lewis’s first (half!) Ferrari win to wake up to.

Not watched the race yet but a 7 second lead in a Sprint race looks pretty dominant.

Now to go and get pole!


 
Posted : 22/03/2025 6:48 am
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1st Piastri

2nd Russell 

3rd Norris

4th Verstappen

5th Hamilton 

6th LeClerc

20th Lawson

 

Do feel for Lawson, I bet MV doesn't share any information with him. 


 
Posted : 22/03/2025 8:17 am
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I think that Max just has a style that's very different to most drivers and the car can be driven very quickly but only really if you drive similarly to Max . If you don't it isn't. I'd imagine that Lawson gets to see Max's data, and probably thinks "how the **** does he get it to do that"


 
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A telling comment from Liam in his post-qualy interview - he said “what I need is time, but I don’t have time”.


 
Posted : 22/03/2025 9:57 am
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What a lacklustre race from Norris. Silly mistake then, well, nothing


 
Posted : 22/03/2025 12:21 pm
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Anyone watching C4 Highlights?

DC seems to be using an inner tube for a sling?!? 


 
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DC seems to be using an inner tube for a sling?!? 

Probably some fancy support from a very expensive collar bone specialist in Monaco. Available in various widths including 23mm, 25, 28...

I'm very much enjoying F1 2025 so far - despite McLaren apparently having the pace neither driver has so far been consistent and the rest of the field is close enough to take advantage when that happens.


 
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Posted by: the-muffin-man

a 7 second lead in a Sprint race looks pretty dominant.

and then they changed the setup for qualifying!


 
Posted : 22/03/2025 4:22 pm
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What a lacklustre race from Norris. Silly mistake then, well, nothing

Much as I hate to say it, that's the difference between Max and Lando, Max has the edge over him.


 
Posted : 22/03/2025 4:37 pm
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Absolutely, 18 laps behind Stroll is a bit of a shocker. Struggle to believe that Max, or Oscar, wouldn’t have been past a long time before that


 
Posted : 22/03/2025 5:12 pm
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What a lacklustre race from Norris. Silly mistake then, well, nothing

Much as I hate to say it, that's the difference between Max and Lando, Max has the edge over him.

I think before long we might also be saying it’s the difference between Oscar and Lando.

Plus Oscar doesn’t have Lando’s self-doubt and isn’t afraid to play hardball. I’m leaning towards predicting that he’ll finish the season ahead of Norris.

 


 
Posted : 22/03/2025 5:15 pm
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Moment of the weekend so far was to hear LH's giggle when he asked "where are we?" And got told P1 in sprint Q3 😆


 
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Posted : 22/03/2025 8:27 pm
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Morning all! 😀


 
Posted : 23/03/2025 6:52 am
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I don’t think Lawson will be in that Red Bull in Japan - they’ve changed the car overnight and he still can’t make the tyres work.


 
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Well the RB strategy has screwed my Fantasy F1 points! 🤣


 
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Max should have got driver of the day - dragged another decent result from a car that’s not working well.


 
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Driver of the day was a strange one. I'm guessing some dubious voting going on there.


 
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Posted by: the-muffin-man

I don’t think Lawson will be in that Red Bull in Japan - they’ve changed the car overnight and he still can’t make the tyres work.

 

Ted Kravitz to Horner yesterday ‘This isn’t what you paid off Checo for, is it?’

 


 
Posted : 23/03/2025 9:36 am
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Hamiltons chat with his engineer was a little tense I thought,  re yielding to LeClerc.

Norris may require new underwear after finishing with no brakes, but could that be a crucial finish come December?

As for Lawson, poor guy must be feeling it, but what do Red Bull do?


 
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As for Lawson, poor guy must be feeling it, but what do Red Bull do?

Red Bull may swap Lawson and Tsunoda for next F1 race


 
Posted : 23/03/2025 10:05 am
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In the post race interviews, he’s lamenting the lack of testing in an actual Redbull from previous years, rather than RB/VCARB, which obviously has different characteristics compared to the likes of Antonelli, who has had dozens of days in previous gen mercs.

 

Can’t imagine that will go down well, TBH.


 
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Lawson wouldn't have had time to test previous Red Bulls though. The back end of last season he was racing the RB and the winter break is so short now it leaves very little spare capacity for Red Bull to run a test team for Lawson.

As soon as Lewis announced he was leaving Kimi had a full years run-up to prepare.


 
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I’d have had him in a car every day possible from the end of last season. If I were Liam/his management, I’d have wanted him in a car every day. Checo had over a decade of experience before being beaten by the car, never mind Max, Liam has had 11 races. Even as the Redbull reserve driver, he never drove, from what he said on Drive to Survive.


 
Posted : 23/03/2025 10:53 am
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What's the restriction on him driving older RBs now (I know the gaps between actual races are already short)?


 
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Can't see either Yuki driving a Red Bull or Liam driving an RB between now and Japan.

It'll be a seat fitting and a few days in the sim at best to familiarise themselves with systems.

Teams don't just have test teams on stand-by - it's not the 1990s! 🙂


 
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Last year Max was unhappy about how narrow the operating window on the Red Bull was. He built up a big points lead early, but that flattered the car. He is able to extract the performance from it, but it's just not realistic to expect a rookie to do that. The way this is going, Red Bull will wind up fourth in the constructors' and Max will be off to Merc next year.


 
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Both Ferraris at risk of DSQ! 😱


 
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Confirmed now - all disqualified.


 
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That'll improve my F1 Fantasy Team standings


 
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Posted by: jimster01

That'll improve my F1 Fantasy Team standings

The opposite for me 😂

 


 
Posted : 23/03/2025 6:00 pm
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Ah, Ferrari. Two races now where both drivers have repeatedly been irritated by their engineers, some bungled team orders today, duff strategy last week and questionable decisions this week, and then two DQs on technical infringements. Fred needs to bang some heads together somewhere.


 
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I don't think the team orders was bungled, just sounded confused on the feed that was broadcast. What was missed was Hamilton right from the start offering to swap places, and then circumstances - overtaking Stroll, and Leclerc not being directly behind, and Hamilton making the decision about where it would happen rather than the team on the pit wall. Taken in context its a big drama over nothing. Getting both cars DSQ was unlucky as well, especially Leclerc which turns out to be mostly tyre wear, and to the extent that Pirelli have got the tyres back at the lab to test why they wore out so much that they were significantly under-weight. 

I think like all the other teams, Ferrari are finding that the operating window for these cars (on this seasons tyres) is variable to the point of randomness. 


 
Posted : 24/03/2025 7:23 am
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OK, some details there that I was unaware of.


 
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How on earth are they not put back on new tyres to do the weigh in? If they can account for missing parts of the front wing, surely the tyres should be reset as well?


 
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How on earth are they not put back on new tyres to do the weigh in? If they can account for missing parts of the front wing, surely the tyres should be reset as well?

Tyres have to be as they finished the race - that's why they drive around picking up the marbles after the race to try and add a bit more weight to the tyres.

 

 


 
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Yes, this isn't the first time that drivers have been DSQd because the team misjudged tyre wear. The teams know the rules, it's up to them to comply.


 
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A more detailed report on the Ferrari position-swap messages shown on TV - Ted Kravitz called this out on air too pointing out they'd only show parts of the discussion...

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/a-joke-ferrari-angered-f1-radio-hamilton-leclerc-swap-chinese-gp/


 
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Posted by: Speeder

How on earth are they not put back on new tyres to do the weigh in? If they can account for missing parts of the front wing, surely the tyres should be reset as well?

I agree, it's a bit of a silly rule in some ways.

But as it stands, the rule is basically that if something is damaged then you can weigh it with the same spec part it would originally have had. However, you cannot do the same for wear and tear parts- brake pads, the plank & skids, any oil that got burned etc. 

It's up to the teams to estimate how much weight the tyres etc will lose in the race, and sometimes they sail too close to the wind (e.g. Russell in Spa).

 

OT- Billy Monger is aiming to take part in the triathlon in LA 2028 paralympics

https://twitter.com/BillyMonger/status/1903748699819237658


 
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Posted by: jimster01

That'll improve my F1 Fantasy Team standings

Mine too! Although I have Gasly too so lost some minor points there.

This fantasy F1 seems to have it in for me. I dropped Ocon based on Haas being rubbish in Aus and swapped in Doohan. Then Ocon goes and gets a 5th and Doohan rolls around at the back driving in to people.

 


 
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[OT- Billy Monger is aiming to take part in the triathlon in LA 2028 paralympics

https://twitter.com/BillyMonger/status/1903748699819237658

Thats great news. I’ve been waiting for him to choose a sport for years. I wish him all the best 

 


 
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Posted by: Speeder

How on earth are they not put back on new tyres to do the weigh in? If they can account for missing parts of the front wing, surely the tyres should be reset as well?

Cars have to be above the minimum weight (not including fuel) at all times, but it’s kinda hard to weigh them during the race. The decision document explains all the process that went on with it. Decisions noticeboard

Glad it’s been a bit unpredictable start to the season, as I’m off to Suzuka next week. The flight and F1 ticket when I booked in September was still cheaper then going to Silverstone…

 


 
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Posted by: Speeder

Glad it’s been a bit unpredictable start to the season, as I’m off to Suzuka next week. The flight and F1 ticket when I booked in September was still cheaper then going to Silverstone…

Crazy but it’s working for you. Have a great trip 


 
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Glad it’s been a bit unpredictable start to the season, as I’m off to Suzuka next week. The flight and F1 ticket when I booked in September was still cheaper then going to Silverstone…

Wow that's absolute madness, and I am extremely envious of you! 😀 


 
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 Don’t understand how RB can put yuki in a RB next race. He drives for a different team, it’s like suggesting they put Albon or Alonso in it because they may do a better job. Surely the whole point of teams is that drivers can only drive for one at a time not swap between teams. It makes a complete mockery of the concept they are 2 teams.


 
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Posted by: chrismac
Surely the whole point of teams is that drivers can only drive for one at a time not swap between teams.

It's not that uncommon for drivers to switch to a different team mid season - Russell was drafted in from Williams when Hamilton got covid, RedBull demoted Gasly and promoted Albon, they kicked Kvyat out to get Max in the RB and even a certain Mr Schumacher moved from Jordan to Benetton.


 
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Lawson out and Yuki in at Red Bull for Japan confirmed by multiple sources. Lawson heading back to Racing Bulls.


 
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Posted by: thepurist

It's not that uncommon for drivers to switch to a different team mid season

For large amounts of money as drivers are bought out of contracts and as a one way trip


 
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Johnny Herbert in 1994. Benneton and Ligier were in common ownership, although he was sold by Lotus.

But go back to the fifties and sixties and it was very common 


 
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Lindblad to replace Hadjar as Verstappen's teammate from Miami onwards 


 
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Lawson out and Yuki in at Red Bull for Japan confirmed by multiple sources. Lawson heading back to Racing Bulls.

Brutal but makes sense and tbh it could also vindicate him if tsu struggles

 


 
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Posted by: andrewh

Lindblad to replace Hadjar as Verstappen's teammate from Miami onwards

Honestly, nothing would surprise me.


 
Posted : 25/03/2025 11:18 pm
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Well, you know that when Horner says, “we’ve got a duty to look after him. We’re going to do the best that we can to support him”, it’ll be followed swiftly by a P45.

Home race in the big car for Yuki, then. He deserves it, let’s just hope he doesn’t become yet another Red Bull whipping boy.


 
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I'd laugh if Tsunoda turned round to Horny and said "**** you, I  wasn't good enough for the seat last year, and I'm quite happy here thank you very much ."

Red Bull management certainly need to take a good look at themselves because this has been going on for years. 


 
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Lawson heading back to Racing Bulls.

Potentially embarrassing for everyone if Lawson goes faster in the RB. I'll bet Verstappen will be less than chuffed that yet again Red Bull don't seem to be able to look past the fact that only he can drive their car. 


 
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I'll bet Verstappen will be less than chuffed that yet again Red Bull don't seem to be able to look past the fact that only he can drive their car. 

I think he made a reference effectively saying that the RB was quicker than the Red Bull at China. 


 
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