Nice race win there for Russell
Yeah great job by the Merc guys, wonder what's going down in the Mclaren garage right now 😁
Probably not much, with Lando immediately taking the blame for the crash. Now if he’d taken the other road and called Piastri a **** and claimed he tried to kill him - now that would’ve been good entertainment!
I would imagine that it’s a tad uncomfortable in there right now.
is it just me, or did piastri move slightly to the left while defending as the accident happened?
not that it makes any difference.
Nah it’s the normal line. Not the first time 2 McLarens have done this mind
So happy for the young Kimi.
I think that Norris will struggle to pick himself up after that incident.
Lando keeps making mistakes, which is going to gift the championship to Oscar.
Meanwhile, in an apparent attempt to take the lead in the Irony Championship, Red Bull went to the stewards to complain about “unsportsmanlike intent”.
... and Lewis Hamiltons damage was caused by running over a ground hog!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/cp3q3g1wd19o
Bing!
Watching Drive to Survive with the missus has got her into F1. I watched as a youngster but it became a borefest compared to two wheeled racing. We watch together (romance!). She loves it.
Anyways, Norris has basically given away the championship now. Idiotic attempt at intimidation. I’ll go so far as say he’ll be No. 2 to Oscar from now on.
Loving the Ferrari chat. Amazes me how they all are so calm talking at race pace.
Also love the presidential puns 🤣🤣🤣
Last, she called me a racist for explaining my position on Yuki. He’s a marketing token imo.
@Minus-6 is married to Mrs TiRed. Now I know 😉 . At least Oscar looks like a genuine talent. Reminds me of Lewis 1.0.
Last, she called me a racist for explaining my position on Yuki. He’s a marketing token imo.
Honda have played a blinder getting him in a Red Bull - now they'll know it's not worth their time trying to shoe-horn him into an Aston Martin next season! 😀
This will be his final season in F1.
Suprisingly The Guardian rate the F1 movie!...
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/jun/17/f1-the-movie-review-brad-pitt
I'll probably go - F1 site reviews are generally that the on track camera work is very good though the racing scenarios don't stand up to closer inspection, and that there's a lot of over explanation of things for those who don't follow F1. Oh and representation of women in motorsport is lacking.
But if it replaces the feeling when I saw the Monaco lap from the Senna film on the big screen that'll be worth the price of admission.
Alex Dunne to be in a Red Bull by Silverstone then
So then; Russell fastest in FP1. Hamilton over half a second back although sounds like he had car problems (was in & out for gearbox issues).
I wonder if he regrets his decision to move to Ferrari? It must be hard not to look at how the Merc is starting to perform & think 'oh, bugger'.
Hoping for a good one this weekend.
I wonder if he regrets his decision to move to Ferrari?
He was being pushed out of Mercedes for Antonelli and had no contract with them for 2025 onwards.
Much like Russell will get the boot if Toto can convince Max to join them.
And I always thought 2025 was a getting used to each other season anyway. Ferrari changing their front suspension was also an indicator to the way they want to go in 2026 too.
I wonder if he regrets his decision to move to Ferrari?
He was being pushed out of Mercedes for Antonelli and had no contract with them for 2025 onwards.
I thought he had a one+one contract, so could have carried on into '25 or taken the option to jump ship after a year, which is what he did?
I don't remember there being any talk/gossip/news about him being pushed out. The chance to put Antonelli in the car was fortunate, but that came about because Hamilton didn't carry on into the final year of the contract.
He did have a +1 deal but was clearly given the cold-shoulder (and +1 works both ways) - in that the deal they were offering was shite considering what he had done for Mercedes and the fact he'd always driven with Mercedes power.
Very much a you're not wanted anymore 'deal'.
He was being pushed out of Mercedes
I think Mercedes were stunned to lose him. Even if he wasn't winning races, he was a great ambassador for the brand. He left because Merc couldn't give him a competitive car, not because Merc didn't want him.
I wonder if he regrets his decision to move to Ferrari?
He was being pushed out of Mercedes for Antonelli and had no contract with them for 2025 onwards.
Much like Russell will get the boot if Toto can convince Max to join them.
Hamilton's past it; Wolff saw that after 3 seasons of George Russell being better than him in equal machinery. LeClerc is better than Hamilton, this is painfully obvious now. One lucky sprint race win aside this season, Hamilton no longer has the winning edge. As for Russell; if Wolff wants Max, then something's got to give, and it would be better for George to leave than end up second best to Verstappen. We saw with the likes of Coulthard, Webber, Massa and Barrichelllo; you might be great at winning the odd race, but ultimately, your teammate is better than you. That must be quite hard to live with tbh.
I think Mercedes were stunned to lose him. Even if he wasn't winning races, he was a great ambassador for the brand. He left because Merc couldn't give him a competitive car, not because Merc didn't want him.
They were stunned in much the same was as Alpine were stunned when Piastri signed for McLaren - Mercedes thought they held all the cards! 🤣
They thought he was such a great ambassador Mercedes weren't prepared to offer him a lifetime ambassador deal as many other F1 champions have been given in the past!
Lewis isn't done yet - and as for Leclerc - in the tradition of many a Ferrari driver I predict he'll never win a championship.
Lewis isn't done yet - and as for Leclerc - in the tradition of many a Ferrari driver I predict he'll never win a championship.
That's what I thought about Jenson Button too. But then Honda/Brawn went from a joke to the class of the field and he made it look easy. Next year, it's anyone's guess which car and engine will be on top.
Hamilton's past it; Wolff saw that after 3 seasons of George Russell being better than him in equal machinery. LeClerc is better than Hamilton, this is painfully obvious now. One lucky sprint race win aside this season, Hamilton no longer has the winning edge.
I'm no huge Hamilton fan but I think thats more than unfair. Perhaps Hamilton didn't want to take risks to finish one place higher and the midpack and he has always had issues if the car his not to his liking.
I think in a competitive car he would be competitive
I know it's edited in a way to make it more dramatic TV, but watching the last season of Drive to Survive it certainly seemed like a shock to Toto and Mercedes when Lewis announced he was leaving. They wouldn't have been scrambling to find a replacement if the plan had been to force him out?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/c2lezepxej2o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/c79q3vvvy3jo
Having read the article regarding MV going to Mercedes, I can't see Verstappen going unless the team revolve around him like Red Bull. Another sticking point would be money, $75 million at Red Bull??
So it'll probably happen.
George is very similar to button. Good but not world champion material unless the car gives him a huge advantage. The fact that Mercedes would rather risk losing George for a chance at max tend you ask you really need to know. Where would George go off Max signed? Would rb want him? Could he drive a max car
Oh dear, Lawson outqualifies Verstappen, Tsunoda down in 18th. Can't see Verstappen wanting to stay at RB next year. My money is on him going to Aston Martin, I don't think he would fit well at Merc.
So, Lando over half a second quicker than everyone else...how much of that advantage was a better car/driver vs everyone else screwed by Gaslys' spins?
Can't see Verstappen wanting to stay at RB next year. My money is on him going to Aston Martin, I don't think he would fit well at Merc.
I do wonder what factors drive F1 decisions. On one hand they are team involved in a competitive environment where winning is meant to be important. So on that score you get the best driver you can afford/justify. On the other hand you are financed mostly as a mobile billboard - you need companies to want to pay you many many millions of pounds to be associated with you, and they do that because consumers of whatever they do will think more favourably of you because of that association. Verstappen as a personality is divisive at best and a turn off at worst. Would I want my widget associated with Verstappen - **** no! I'd rather my widget was associated with a cool team with likable drivers who all looked like they were having a good time rather than a right fister of a human being who just happened to be epic and driving in circles. Even if they were not the most winningest of team/car/driver combos.
As a team principle, you'd also know that signing him would mean spending more time being nice to the rancid turd that is his father. If you had a choice, would you do it to yourself?
Gasly distorted the picture but Lando has been about 0.15 up on Piastri all weekend. But there's still a fair chance Piastri gets the top step tomorrow.
I'd rather my widget was associated with a cool team with likable drivers who all looked like they were having a good time rather than a right fister of a human being
Which is ironic isn't it? Because that was RB's image back at the start.
Even if he wasn't winning races, he was a great ambassador for the brand.
I thought one of his reasons for not moving was that Mercedes didn’t want him as a brand ambassador when he’d finished racing.
Which is ironic isn't it? Because that was RB's image back at the start.
Very true! And the RB brand in the extreme sports environment choose to associate themselves with 'athletes' that prioritize rad and seemingly adventurous lifestyle over winning medals at stuff. The F1 Motorsport brand have lost their cool - it's more of a winning at all cost, moaning and bullying mindset now. Granted that's probably more to do with the personality of two of the most prominent people in the team. But it's very unappealing.
So, Lando over half a second quicker than everyone else...how much of that advantage was a better car/driver vs everyone else screwed by Gaslys' spins?
If a rookie can jump in and set competitive times, the car's well-sorted. McL seem to have tyre temperatures under control, the other teams seem to be a long way behind on that. I think the flexi-wing question is now settled. I'm guessing all the teams will now switch their development completely onto next year's cars so it'll just be a Norris-Piastri fight for the driver's championship and, hopefully, a Ferrari-Merc fight for second place in the constructors'.
The movie seems to be getting good reviews from non-F1 fan reviewers. Predictable plot, great camerawork seems to be the general theme.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/f1-the-movie-review
Just been to see the F1 film, very brain out stuff, camera work is brilliant, some of the detail was a bit of a stretch, but it’s entertainment, not a documentary.
Going to watch it for realsies next weekend, for the first time ever. Excited doesn’t really cover it.
The notable thing for me was how phlegmatic Verstappen was when he was taken out. Not just in the media pen but trackside in the immediate aftermath. It made me wonder what’s making him so relaxed—because I doubt he’d given up on the championship prior to this race.
Good job by Lando, though. Staying ahead in the first stint when Piastri had so much DRS advantage lap after lap wasn’t easy.
Really hoping Ferrari can get things a bit more sorted by Monza 🙂
The notable thing for me was how phlegmatic Verstappen was when he was taken out. Not just in the media pen but trackside in the immediate aftermath. It made me wonder what’s making him so relaxed—
The times when he's had a strop or has been very aggressive/gone beyond acceptable on track have been very specific. Usually involving Hamilton or Russell, or occasionally Norris.
He sees them as a threat and can't stand being beaten by them and will cross boundaries to prevent that. Antonelli was not trying to pass him in a one on one battle, he just ****ed up and Max was in the wrong place, Max didn't feel like he had something to prove against him as I feel he is always trying to do with the others, often to the point of looking desperate.
Usually involving Hamilton or Russell, or occasionally Norris.
Maybe he hates Brits 😉
