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To be fair Kelvin, that post could have been written by Douglas Murray at The Spectator
Murray is an evil little shit spreading hateful propaganda and lies for his own financial gain. But he doesn’t own one of the biggest social media platforms with a worldwide reach.
Agree Kelvin, though my point stands that the new Twitter isn't publishing things that you wouldn't find in other media such as the Telegraph, DM, Talk (SHOUT!) TV etc.
It is also still a platform for left wing or centrist viewpoints, (unlike the other media I mentioned) and in that respect could be said to represent a greater diversity of views than other outlets.
I guess I'm becoming more tolerant as I age! It's all to easy to throw rocks at the other side (I've thrown a few in my time) but it's becoming tiresome.
I work in the Arts sector where the groupthink, censoriousness and virtue signalling has reached a level of absurdity that I find far more troubling that the things that Elon Musk is doing at Twitter.
I was obviously wrong with my share price comment though I'll maintain that Musk isn't too concerned about the company's value. Despite the technical mess he is making of the site, no competing platforms have managed to take advantage of any of the weed fuelled, spur of the moment decisions that Elon makes.
That in itself points to the fact that Twitter has a virtual monopoly in its domain. Within a few years, Twitter will be at least as valuable as it was when Musk bought it (and profit wasn't even the reason he bought the platform).
https://twitter.com/maggiepint/status/1675331352584134658?s=46&t=kryCDSKqicplVhYJZNG9RQ
caching layer collapsing / vanishing would have been my first guess too
I'm wondering if Elon knows the actual issue is not the scraping and is trying to cover up for his decisions crippling Twitter's infrastructure or if that's just what an engineer told him on the spur of the moment to get Elon off his back and then Elon made it a thing :p
Definitely the first option fuzzywuzzy
I'm guessing all tweets are now off limits to those of us without Twitter accounts?
Tbh, having just seen a Tweet arguing that Mein Kampf is misunderstood and has some really good points, youre not missing much.
There was a massive bust up not so long ago when Christopher Hitchens claimed that the Nazis were in fact left-wing. That pretty much sums up the level of debate on Twitter these days
There was a massive bust up not so long ago when Christopher Hitchens claimed that the Nazis were in fact left-wing. That pretty much sums up the level of debate on Twitter these days
That was Peter Hitchens. Big difference!
ah cool, thanks, I knew it was one of them.
Nice to see that Zuckerberg's new data accumulator/social media app has been given an appropriate name.
Meta's version of Twitter (Threads) went live this morning. Quite a contrast to Mastodon where you need to do 3 days worth of research into the sign up process. You literally just link the Instagram account you probably already have, and bosh, you've got a timeline full of content even before you start following anyone. (clearly the algorithms are powered by data across the Meta ecosystem). Reportedly 10 million users already.
This is something that could potentially kill Twitter very quickly. But then it's a notoriously difficult market to crack and history tells us it's more likely to fizzle after the initial excitement.
Quite a contrast to Mastodon where you need to do 3 days worth of research into the sign up process.
Glad it wasn't just me, I thought I was being especially dimwitted, but I never did get the hang of it!
Created a Thread log on in about 30secs this morning. Don't know about the name though, makes me think of thread worms...
Well Elon's had a little snide tantrum over it, so it must have some potential
Let’s just hope Meta let this thing be used to converse with the people you really want to. Sign up was a breeze. Let’s see…
It seems that with Twitters latest valuation, Elon is answering the age old question 'how do you make a small fortune?'
...start with a large one 😂
Not overly bothered about either of these ****ers right now but happy to see the more infantile one having a strop.
I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't in cohoots with zuckerburg to gut twitter and launch facebooks new rival
Short the stock, gut the firm, sell out to rival, cash in.
These guys make money wether they succeed or fail
Meta’s version of Twitter (Threads) went live this morning
Have you seen how much data Meta wants to collect on Threads users though? Surveillance capitalism at its worst - no wonder they’re not trying to launch it in the EU.
Have you seen how much data Meta wants to collect on Threads users though? Surveillance capitalism at its worst – no wonder they’re not trying to launch it in the EU.
this is the same for facebook and insta et al. It's the accounts being linked to insta that's the EU blocker
Someone posted the permissions list in the other thread and it all looked pretty normal (as in normally intrusive) to me.
There is the small issue at the moment tho - where if you delete your Threads account it'll take you Insta account with it.
There is the small issue at the moment tho – where if you delete your Threads account it’ll take you Insta account with it.
Threads is basically a new UI for instagram's database, they are the same accounts atm. I think this was thrown out the door as quickly as possible
Let’s just hope Meta let this thing be used to converse with the people you really want to.
What makes you think they're suddenly going to do that?
Apparently now more than 70 million signups in the first two days. For context, Twitter have about 450 million unique users in a month. I imagine Elon is sweating a bit.
It's kind of impressive that Musk has managed to make Facebook/Meta/Zuckerberg seem like the better option for once.
Flaccid or erect?
Don't worry he's going to use ai to figure out the true nature of the universe. Something to look forward to, thanks Elon!
As a total aside, anyone managed to get a Bluesky invite? Is it any good?
Yeh, that is just going to ramp up harrasment of anyone remotely vulnerable, and the Twitter article I read just before that was of a couple of advertisers pulling out as their ad were being playing on Nazi accounts. So its going well.
It’s the classic misunderstanding on the overgrown toddler’s part that just because people have the right to freedom of speech, that doesn’t trump others’ right not to listen to them.
This’ll just drive off users and advertisers, unless he’s planning to beef up moderation/reporting which seems… unlikely.
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I dont know if community notes has that completely right but quite amusing regardless
removing the block function would make twitter unbearable
if he goes ahead with it, expect a swift U-turn
Just a suspicion, but I think it's possible that they looked at the data and noticed that non-Blue Checks were disproportionately blocking Blue Checks and figured that this would mostly upset non-subscribers and please the Blue Check subscribers.
Amy Musk fanboys want to comment on what a genius he is?
I think the Musk fanbois stick to the electric car thread.
Well, he paid $44b and its now valued at $4b, which is actually quite an impressive achievement
https://time.com/6297303/twitter-x-rebrand-cost/
Well, on the bright side, he did make a small fortune, he just started with a large fortune.
Is it $13b borrowed for that purchase? I dont want to even try imagine owing that much money (although google suggests its Twitter that owes it)
He didn't buy twitter, he bought a fully formed user base for his new online banking project. It doesn't really matter that he's lost loads of users as they aren't the kind of people who would have signed up to his one stop shop anyway.
I'm not suggesting he's clever but if he can tap into the MAGA bunch with his free speech as long as it's my free speech thing and then get them to bank with him, he'll see the returns he wants.
TBF, it's as likely that this was done inadvertently as deliberately.
https://twitter.com/tomcoates/status/1692922211416334597
Apparently it's a breaking-of-links issue rather than a deletion issue. Which is worse, but is probably more easily fixable/reversible if applicable.
The'll be restoring from backup as we speak.
He didn’t buy twitter, he bought a fully formed user base for his new online banking project.
This would be the same banking project that was such a good idea that the PayPal board forced him out when he tried it there.
I’m not honestly sure that this was the ulterior motive when he bought Twitter (which I think was a combination of his enthusiasm for ‘free speech’ and it being too good an offer for the Twitter board to pass up) but it might be now.
Behind it all, he’s a massive self-publicist who got lucky and who isn’t as clever as he or his f@n80is think.
I’m not honestly sure that this was the ulterior motive when he bought Twitter
Question for everyone really, Do you trust Twitter more now or before Musk took over?
Question for everyone really, Do you trust Twitter more now or before Musk took over?
I've entirely stopped using it, it's just toxic garbage. If X was the last bank/social-media mashup on the planet I still would not use it.
Yep, I'm off it for good too. I miss Fesshole and Anon Opin but I'll survive on the snippets in the b3ta weekly email....
Question for everyone really, Do you trust Twitter more now or before Musk took over?
I'll answer this by not actually answering it
https://twitter.com/PCMag/status/1692587937219678228?t=Nd9DGavD2kIkZdTuy0WcSg&s=19
Also dont fancy trying to hang on to the MAGA crowd if they need to sign in with facial recognition.
I currently used Twitter with fake details and a VPN.
For those in GDPR, youd be consenting to sending your data outside of GDPR from what I can see.
Absolutely nothing has changed on Twitter for me, apart from the logo and more ads for stuff i dont care about. I never ever look at anything on the "for you" tab.
Just to partly correct that last post of mine
https://twitter.com/xDaily/status/1691867855317500000?s=20
@imkster Surely that’s rhetorical?
Some kind soul gave me a Bluesky invite today - seems a but rustic (eg. no iPad support) and not many people obviously on it but we’ll see…
This is a handy refresher on Musk's bullshittery.
https://twitter.com/youwouldntpost/status/1693321900787630397
This would be the same banking project that was such a good idea that the PayPal board forced him out when he tried it there.
Yeah, it's really unlike billionaire old white men to hold a grudge and try to prove they they were right all along, even if that comes at the distraction of technology and society.
Is Musk really this stupid or is he just trolling?
https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1698707749742252330
Stealth ads now. Just not a trustworthy service. But I guess everyone here has already dumped it… yeah?
I just block any promoted posts. I don't follow many people so they don't need to be labelled for me to see if they're an ad or not.
A $1 a year fee does seem so low that it may be being used to stop bots, unless those pesky bots have their own card/bank account.
Payment plans don't stop bots, they tax them.
Fair enough, good luck to him - he could do with more money. If it ends up with people no longer using X because he charges them then no great loss to the world is it.
Do people really want to give their banking details to someone who lives by the tech-knobber "Move fast and break things" mantra?
Well obviously we did with PayPal, but he had Peter Thiel and Co. To keep an eye on things then...
He'll only hang on to your details for 30 days while he engages the services of an operation in Israel to make sure YOU'RE legit. F right off mate. aren't you on f'ing mars yet? get lost.
He should stick to building rockets rather than trying to become the new Messiah.
He clearly has the social skills of the balrog from lord of the rings.
X really sucks at the moment but the concept isn't bad. i think that initially WhatsApp was meant to charge 1EUR to your phone account every year but that never actually happened. The problem now is that so many people are stuck in the idea that it SHOULD be free and will never pay that it has killed the space it could be 🙁
Well obviously we did with PayPal, but he had Peter Thiel and Co. To keep an eye on things then…
Peter Thiel is a libertarian ****
Thats all I have to say
Whatsapp did have a charging mechanism- then facebook bought it and made it free to get people on board. Couldn’t possibly hazard a guess as to how they’re making money off it instead.
Question for everyone really, Do you trust Twitter more now or before Musk took over?<br /><br />
I trust it about as far as I could spit a rat, but I’m still on there, mainly because there are a number of artists using it who I follow, and it’s a way of directly insulting various Republikkkans.
Satan will host the Winter Olympics before I give the likes of Muskrat any financial details. Unless they were his…
Some kind soul gave me a Bluesky invite today – seems a but rustic (eg. no iPad support) and not many people obviously on it but we’ll see…
Eh, I’ve got Bluesky on my iPad, seems no different to what’s on my iPhone, there’s an app in the iPad App Store.
X really sucks at the moment but the concept isn’t bad. i think that initially WhatsApp was meant to charge
You know that whatsapp is facebook, as in Meta/zucckerberg right?
right?
X is Musk/tesla
@swanny853 theres also a business account version of whatsapp that is paid for. Quite amusing that Meta paid half what Musk paid for Twitter, has tripled the user base to two billion by cutting subscriptions for and is making money...
Well I haven't used twitter/X for around 8 years, no longer have an account as far as I'm aware. But there's absolutely nothing that Musk has done to it since his purchase that makes me want to sign up again. A 1$ a year 'verification' charge isn't going to encourage me.
Strange that he bought X for 44billion, when it was free to use but now he wants to charge based on the premise that a pay to use system gets rid of bots. From what I've read his monthly charge hasn't go rid of the problem, so it's a dumb idea that a lower charge will.
It's got to the point where I'd rather have the bots than all the real life neo-nazis he keeps encouraging.