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Imagine working for this clown.

https://twitter.com/donie/status/1592859900941852674?t=hnoQjeDzx04yfePKMjyCZA


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 2:33 pm
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Test your knowledge!!

75%

I bet some of you can beat that.

Imagine working for this clown.

What a ****.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 2:37 pm
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83%

It's actually harder than i thought 😂


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 2:45 pm
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92%


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 2:57 pm
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It did occur to me while I was doing it that it could be a trick, and they were all Musk quotes.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:10 pm
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92%

The man is on a mission to kill twitter


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:22 pm
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I'd like to point out that design is very much part of engineering.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:28 pm
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I’d like to point out that design is very much part of engineering.

Not really. It needs to be in close contact with the engineers, but at the same time considering aesthetics, usability, marketing,... There's a reason architecture is separate to civil engineering.

Mind you, I'm pretty sure Musk was only talking about the arty bit, and hadn't really stopped to consider how design actually fits in to a successfull software product.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:44 pm
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Product design, software design, graphic design, UX design.

The word can cover a lot of bases.

I may not as smart, rich or extremely hardcore as Musk, but I wouldn't be surprised if I had a better grasp of digital products.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:47 pm
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Tbf my company US global affair has just said the same as that email.
Just worded legally.
Musk's still an arsehole


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:48 pm
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I can see twitter becoming even more of a data mining operation than it already is. And shortly after will be investigated and hit with massive fines by the EU and others.
Remove all the controls and things will not go well


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:48 pm
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I'm just hoping the cheaper insulin request from the many has been heard by the manufacturers and they do decide to reduce the price to a far smaller number.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:52 pm
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I’m just hoping the cheaper insulin request from the many has been heard by the manufacturers and they do decide to reduce the price to a far smaller number.

After seeing how Eli Lilly's share dropped after announcing cheaper prices? Yeah, can sure see that happening...


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:58 pm
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I assumed it was the subsequent fallout rather than the fake account announcement.

However, I did also think it was fair game for share price to plummet, clearly there are many people making a lot of money out of this.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 4:01 pm
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Lol, dunno. I assumed it was the other way round!


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 4:01 pm
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The thing that gets me is how they intend to measure "exceptional". If everyone is working 12 hours a day six days a week (illegal under EU rules and likely outside of "reasonable overtime" that most contracts I have ever had used) then time at the coalface becomes useless as a metric for measuring people. If your people do burn out, then it's possible the best ones will just cease to exist in a useful form.

Lines of code then?

Security, UX/Design, Testing and Infrastructure may not write as many lines as a developer, but will just as easily (or more so) kill a product if they do not exist.

So how to measure exceptional?


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 4:08 pm
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That one tweet cost Lilly 6% of their market cap in one day. That's about $18bn or 40% of what Elon paid for Twitter. Lilly's ad spending suspension is not an isolated case.

https://endpts.com/novo-nordisk-gsk-pause-some-twitter-ad-spending-after-musk-takeover/


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 4:10 pm
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Not really. It needs to be in close contact with the engineers, but at the same time considering aesthetics, usability, marketing,… There’s a reason architecture is separate to civil engineering.

Usability is the key word there. A perfectly implemented product is worthless if it doesn't do what people want how they want it done. As for marketing, just as important. You could spend a long time creating the perfect machine for cooking an individual pea and slicing it into segments that costs £999, but no-one would want it so you'd have completely wasted your time.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 4:14 pm
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illegal under EU rules

Not if you sign a form saying you're opting out of the Working Time Directive.....all entirely voluntarily 🙄


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 6:22 pm
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Not if you sign a form saying you’re opting out of the Working Time Directive…..all entirely voluntarily

iirc the UK was the only country with the individual opt out.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 6:57 pm
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Didn't know that


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 8:18 pm
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Weird headline, for a depressingly predictable story...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63626769


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 9:40 am
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A perfectly implemented product is worthless if it doesn’t do what people want how they want it done.

Although then again thats not always what the design team provides as opposed to whatever is currently trendy/cribbed off Apple. It is a balancing act though between the different disciplines. Giving either the absolute final say is a bad idea.

As for marketing, just as important.

TBF that is something he has traditionally been very good at.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 10:38 am
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TBF that is something he has traditionally been very good at.

That BBC story says Twitter doesn't currently have a comms dept though.

I'm assuming they're waiting to hire that guy who worked for Prince Andrew then Liz Truss.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 10:41 am
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That BBC story says Twitter doesn’t currently have a comms dept though.

Tesla hasnt had a PR department for quite some time either. He just spaffs stuff out on twitter and ignores the inconvenient stuff.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 10:54 am
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Apparently Matt Hancock now has a hand in Elon's downfall:

https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/17/twitter_refugees_matt_hancock/

Maybe this should be labelled as mischievous satire...


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 2:17 pm
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This would fall outside of the opt-out for the EU time directive.

EU Working time directive

A Member State shall have the option not to apply Article 6 [maximum weekly working time], while respecting the general principles of the protection of the safety and health of workers, and provided it takes the necessary measures to ensure that:
– no employer requires a worker to work more than 48 hours over a seven-day period, calculated as an average for the reference period referred to in point 2 of Article 16(b), unless he has first obtained the worker's agreement to perform such work;
– no worker is subjected to any detriment by his employer because he is not willing to give his agreement to perform such work;
– the employer keeps up-to-date records of all workers who carry out such work;
– the records are placed at the disposal of the competent authorities, which may, for reasons connected with the safety and/or health of workers, prohibit or restrict the possibility of exceeding the maximum weekly working hours;
– the employer provides the competent authorities at their request with information on cases in which agreement has been given by workers to perform work exceeding 48 hours over a period of seven days, calculated as an average for the reference period referred to in Article 16(b).

Are there limits to the opt out?
• The Directive does not specify limits to the number of working hours the workers can may agree to work through the opt-out…
• However, there are 2 implicit limits:
78 hours per week (168 h – 90h of rest)
• Its application must respect the principles of safety and health of workers => even when workers agree, the competent authorities (labour inspectorate) can intervene preventing them from opting–out for reasons concerned with their safety and health.
• The Directive also does not specify the reference period over which the workers may agree to work in excess of the 48 hours.
There are many studies (several by Eurofound) showing the relationship between long working hours, in particular over long periods of time, and outcomes such as more accidents, more mistakes, decreased productivity, more difficulties in work life balance, stress and fatigue, negative impact on health of workers, etc.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 2:33 pm
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Twitter offices all closed up till Monday, no reason given.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63672307


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 4:55 am
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This’ll be to stop all those who didn’t say “yes” to be locked out and even those who did to be vetted and allocated to critical roles about to be vacated by those who chose to leave.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 6:07 am
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Those critical roles quite possibly including such ones as being in charge of buildings.
I cant believe people dont seem to be lining up to work ultra hard to try and get Musk getting poorer.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:37 am
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It would be funny if it wasn't tragic watching the 'all you need is no rules and hard work - crypto is the future' circlejerk run countries and country sized businesses into the ground.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:58 am
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Lol @ Space Karen


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:19 am
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63672307Locked out of the office

Ah already been done on social media that's still open 😆


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:05 am
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As above seems to be a way of clearing the decks of the disloyal


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:10 am
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How long before he gets removed from US government projects.
Unstable rich boy


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:18 am
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Although he's claiming all the best people are staying I'm calling BS unless he's offering them sizeable golden handcuffs


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:18 am
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Well it's not so much them being disloyal, loyalty when working at the codeface of a big org like Twitter is for mugs unless there is a very good renumeration package tied to it, even then there are limits to pulling intense long hours. I imagine anyone with talent, self confidence or contacts at other companies will have taken the 3 month severance and gone, leaving him with people who's work visas are dependent on their job and people in a poor mental place about the security of their income.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:19 am
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Here's an excellent long form write up I read last night regarding Elon Musk and his proto facist followers, he really is an odious ****ing creep

https://www.businessinsider.com/pronatalism-elon-musk-simone-malcolm-collins-underpopulation-breeding-tech-2022-1 1">Elon Musk and his pals descent into pronatalism theory or eugenics by another name


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:26 am
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I think he is nostalgic for the good old days of his youth where he (and everyone else) was spending long hours simply coding for some threadbare dotcom business concept. World has moved on now though as have those dotcom companies.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:26 am
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Nah, he's floundering, he's out of his depth and he's been watching too much Game of Thrones (when not being extremely hardcore).


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:30 am
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Do Amazon run the servers?
Because at some point a new OS update on a phone or laptop will knock twitter out with a bug who is going to patch twitters app if thay have all left...
Imagine being dumped from the play/apple app store for being an unstable app.
Or getting sacked and nowhere to pass the security on to access the tools to patch the app as Elon sacked all the managers on day one.

I hope they nicked all the pens and a4 paper before he locked the office.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:32 am
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Although he’s claiming all the best people are staying I’m calling BS unless he’s offering them sizeable golden handcuffs

This policy will be the total opposite. The best ones will be the first to jack it in. You get left with the ones that can't move elsewhere easily.

Loyalty will have nothing to do with it. They were loyal to the company they helped build. This isn't that company, why should they stick it out unless they feel they cant move?


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:48 am
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Leaving aside the loud mouth at the top, is this what normally happens when a company takes over another? Large scale redundancies, enforced change of work culture, removal of the old board and senior managers, shutting of offices.

Just not in such a public way, a little slower and with a lot more involvement of HR.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:58 am
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