He's being whisked to hospital as I write this.
He's just fine
Given there is a fully equipped medical centre at the Whitehouse and the negative optics of this I doubt it's purely pre-cautionary.
I genuinely hope he's OK
I want him to lose this election
He's had antibody infusion apparently. ITV news.
Given that no one knows more about "medicine" than one D.Trump, perhaps the doctors at Walter Reed should just let him heal himself???
15 hours without a tweet, longest ever since becoming president according to the News.
Apparently he's been taken to hospital.
Let's hope his laboratory tests are soon described as "astonishingly excellent" again.
As I said earlier this is the most dangerous situation the world has faced since the Cuban Missile crisis. We are hours away from a situation which has no precedent, is not covered by the 25th Amendment and will be fully capitalised on by both China and Russia.
Trump has done it again by catching covid at literally the worst possible time for the free world. 2 months later and no one except his close family would have cared.
Trump on a ventilator for the next 2 or 3 weeks is absolutely the worst outcome for world safety you could wish for.
He’s had antibody infusion apparently. ITV news.
No hydroxychloroquine, for some bizarre reason.
I'm sure even this chaotic White House has a set protocol for the kind of issues that would demand him to be taken to Walter Reed Medical Centre. Blood oxygenation threshold, that kind of thing.
Grauniad reports ‘experimental antibody cocktail for the virus’. Maybe he’s having some of his Preacher’s Homebrew 😬
I just don't believe it. It's win win for him and the republicans.
Couple of weeks at home and:
He's not going to come out as a racist **** in the next debate. Or say anythig else that can harm his election.
If he's not dead, he's an immortal hero.
He's gonna have to be really I'll or die for me to believe he actually has it.
Either way I feel sorry for his missus, who has to stay in with **** for 2 weeks.
Couple of weeks at home and:
I'm afraid he's already had to vacate his armchair and get carted off to a place with lots of beepy things and concerned faces. I fear a comfy couple of weeks are becoming a distant dream.
Will he walk to the helicopter or not? Key question.
Will he walk to the helicopter or not? Key question.
They parked the helicopter so no-one could see the manner of his boarding.
I was thinking it might've been a scam so he could claim it wasn't serious and justify not doing anything else about the pandemic. But going to hospital suggests it's real.
Do people still honestly believe he's faking this?
Do people still honestly believe he’s faking this?
I’ll believe it ,if he pops his clogs. Til then I’m sceptical.
Probably not as many now. And if they're sticking in a treatment that hasn't passed phase 3 trials yet, that suggests they are desperately looking for ways to reduce his viral load.
Melatonin and Famotidine also pretty novel - there seems to be evidence that the latter is of use in moderate and severe cases. The approach appears to be 'chuck the kitchen sink at it'.
White House statements have gone from 'asymptomatic', through 'mild' and into 'moderate' in 12 hours. I remember when Boris got taken into hospital as a precaution and ended up a whisker away from ventilation.
I wouldn’t put it past him if it provided a chance to boost his ratings as the election looms.
He's receiving the best possible treatment, I mean really great, just the best. 
Of course he’s not faking it.
The reports are clearly downplaying it of course, but it's interesting they claim he's still working. If he hasn't tweeted for 15 hours he must be pretty ill so I can't see how he'll be 'working' - whatever that even means for him.
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Full MemberI genuinely hope he’s OK
I want him to lose this election
I don't want him to be OK. If he's OK, then it improves his election bid massively, because like Boris he'll be the hero leader who beat coronavirus and proved he was right along to say it's no big deal. It's probably the most damaging scenario, the one that kills the most people and ruins the most lives.
On balance, I don't want him to die either. I won't mind if he does, but it's not the best outcome. A long spell on a ventilator, a grab bag of complications and after effects, let's have him be a perfect case study of long covid and unavoidable proof to all his idiot followers that you have to take it seriously and just because you didn't die doesn't mean it's fine. Just as long as it leaves him incapable of returning to the whitehouse and inflicting the same thing on thousands more people.
Though, since the symptoms of that are "fatigue, breathlessness, muscle aches, joint pain, brain fog, memory loss, lack of concentration, and depression", I'm not sure how you'd diagnose him.
I see STW is awash with compassion!
It is, abundantly so, as many, many threads helping members in need will show you.
Angry Tinkerbell, on the other hand, is a repugnant malignant narcissist, who, as a five year old, was happy to throw stones at a toddler next door, and, by his own admission, not changed one iota.
I don’t want him dead, I want him to suffer the worst form of C19, which will leave him struggling to cope with the ill-health it causes for the rest of his miserable, misbegotten excuse for a life.
Speaking as someone who won’t even kill wasps, as they have value; Agent Orange has proved, beyond any reasonable doubt that any right-minded human might have had, that he has no value to society whatsoever, and is as undeserving of compassion as it’s possible to get.
If you can’t understand that, and I find it hard to understand how anyone couldn’t, then, as someone showed above, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
I wouldn’t put it past him if it provided a chance to boost his ratings as the election looms.
If anything, the WH is downplaying the seriousness of it because it makes him look bad, not good. The one issue he really, really does not want to have to answer questions about is Covid. His message for the last six months has been that it's just a cold and everyone should go back to normal. Being hospitalized is the worst thing possible for him. He was obviously wrong about the pandemic and he won't be able to campaign for a couple of weeks minimum. He's massively behind in the polls so he absolutely has to get out campaigning.
https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/1312216462333894656
It's beginning to unravel for trump - his campaign manager is now +ve as are two more GOP senators, the RNC chair and three WH correspondents.
How long before some of the big $ donors he met with on Thursday also confirm +ve.
As a sidenote, his former adviser kellyanne conway is also +ve - her rebellious daughter leaked it online first.
Just listening to interviews with some trump supporters - not even their idol getting a dose has done anything to change their views...CV19 is over-rated, mask wearing is unnecessary and so it goes on; absolutely brain dead morons.
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1312064332306542592?s=20
All to own the libs
https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/1312219906855841793?s=20
Maybe he's decided he'll lose election and face too much court/jail action so is faking his own death!
Do people still honestly believe he’s faking this?
A lot of people will. This is the result of 'asymmetric information warfare' or 'constructive ambiguity'.
I'll mention 'Hypernormalisation' by Adam Curtis again.
https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1312241085154983936
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1312010386711945219
This hits the nail on the head. He has the virus due to his own incompetence and delusional beliefs.
He has the virus due to his own incompetence and delusional beliefs.
That's self-evident - when combined with his refusal to accept and follow the science.
The bigger concern is the way so many others have readily adopted his beliefs and been encouraged to do so.
With the US death toll at nearly 209,000 how many of those could have been avoided if there had been strong, clear, rational, science and evidence led leadership?
10,000 or 50,000 or 100,000?
Do people still honestly believe he’s faking this?
The only way to know for sure is to ask Vladislav Surkov.
The number of senior level Republican government officials who have contracted the coronavirus is growing by the hour. I don't think there's a parallel in the developed world to what the United States is going through right now.
What happened in Iran with their health minister & senior politicians is pretty similar.
It that was months ago before we knew what we know now.
It beggars belief that this would be happening in the States.
It's all just a PR stunt.
He's going to come out of hospital to do an infomercial for a new miracle cure that's made him HEALTHIER THAN EVER BEFORE, PROBABLY THE HEALTHIEST MAN ALIVE, available for an incredible introductory price of only $200,000.
Would anyone even be that surprised at this point? :-/
I don’t think there’s a parallel in the developed world…
Do you mean a spreading event through those tasked with deciding how to handle the epidemic in their country? If so…
Prime Minister (shook all their hands), Chief Medical Officer, Health Ministers, Foreign Secretary + many more cabinet ministers and top civil servants.
like Boris he’ll be the hero leader who beat coronavirus
Not even my most rabid pro Tory/ Brexit contacts think this of Boris. They all accept he's an incompetent ****.
Given the change in circa overnight, I'm accepting Trump is probably genuinely ill, even if they moved him as a precaution.
A few people on FB last night claiming to have a source at the hospital in London stating Boris was taking it though!
If you have an administration which actively encourages and embraces conspiracy theorists the way this one has, it can be no surprise that everything it does is judged using the same principles.
I see he's on the remdesivir now as well. Even though half his meds are indicated in moderate or severe cases only, I guess he gets the good stuff straight away, so it's no real indicator of his actual condition.
Does he have the same tailor as David Byrne?
He certainly stopped making sense quite a while back.
Clear as mud as usual.
His doctor and administration seem to bounce between he's asymptomatic, minor symptoms to a medium case of the disease. Meanwhile, White House press are quoting sources saying he was uncomfortable overnight, has a fever, and staff are getting concerned, especially with some breathing difficulties.
And my contacts in the US are convinced the Dems did it. He was infected on purpose at the debate (as well as Biden wore hi-tech contact lenses with a teleprompter and was on a portable IV) 😜
