I still find it difficult to cross the line to actively wanting physical harm to come to anyone, but Trump, Cummings, Johnson, Farage push me close. Real close.
I'm with you on this.
But I refuse to stoop so low as to wish them genuine serious physical harm. Sinking to their level means they have beaten you down to their level, and I'd like to think my human compassion will rise above it.
Besides, I want to see Trump see out his life in jail, for a long time, watching his life and "legacy" being shown to be the disaster it is.
Nah, Trump can go * himself. And when he’s finished, he can * himself a little more.
If that makes me a bad person I am more than happy to live with that. The man is a nasty turd and deserves everything that could come his way.
Preach!
His bullshit spreading, Covid denying, self-serving rhetoric has cost lives. Even someone as academically challenged at Trump knew that.
It comes with the Job, It doesn't matter if you're Trump, Obama, Bush or Jimmy Carter, if a President is left with two options, both will likely directly and indirectly ruin peoples lives and sometimes result in deaths. That's the responsibility of being the Leader of 331m people. Their sworn Duty is to do their best for their Country.
More than any President in (my) living Memory, Trump has used lies and propaganda to further his agenda, never more so than dealing with Covid in an election year. He knowingly lied to his people telling them it was a Hoax, he spread pseudoscience that it could be cured by injecting bleach into people and knock it out "just like that" or by using UV rays. He's promised a Vaccine will be ready "very soon" without caveat, he tried to stop local Government protecting their people with local lock downs and mocked people for wearing a mask.
He used his position and influence to encourage people to ignore a deadly virus because he thought it would help him get re-elected and people died because of it.
Now, it seems finally Karma / Mother Nature / the Law of Sod whatever has come back to bite him on his arse and even if a hugely disproportional level of healthcare, something he worked to deny millions of the people he swore to protect, can't save him than Good. It's about time people stopped believing what suits them, and started to believe the truth and the world will be a better place for it.
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Free MemberI see STW is awash with compassion!
This place is effin horrible sometimes….
I have compassion for the nearly 1000 people that died of coronavirus in the US today, and the 200000 that came before that, most of which avoidable and many of which directly caused by the actions of this president. And i have compassion for those that have lost livelihoods, health, and home. Erasing this piece of shit from the world would be a net increase in human good and a net increase in compassion, and I have all the compassion for him as I did for my dad's cancer.
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Free MemberHe’s spent most of the year downplaying it and saying it’s a hoax, then ignoring advice and holding rallies without masks.
It's fine, he was just lying to himself about it so he didn't panic
Has anyone been watching the channel 4 series about trump?
It goes without saying he's been a champion bellend since day one. When he bought the Commodore hotel in Manhattan in 70s, arguably the single event that propelled him to where he is now. On the back of a 70mill tax rebate but had to go to city hall to petition for it, you find yourself shouting at the screen "don't give him it!" "We'll thank you in 40 years"
And when he erected trump tower which meant bulldozing the historical building on Fifth avenue - prick. Although tbf I think trump tower is rather good looking. But predictably cheaped out on all the flats and called the mayor of NY a moron in the process
There's also a major figure more repellent than trump himself if that's possible - his lawyer Roy Cohn.
But there's a difference from being hated and reviled by a narrow group of people in East coast real estate and then hated and reviled by millions of people. And hated long after he s gone. Bad move Donald but your ego had to run for president.
There's no nuance or complexity - he's always been a dreadful person and is the epitome of greed is good, selfish capitalism
Trump IS America! (...sorry)
My squeamishness about actively wanting harm to come to someone like Trump has got **** all to do with them as a person.
It is a line I don't want to cross in my own mind. It feels too easy.
I genuinely wouldn't give a toss if Trump died of covid, I just wouldn't wish it, nor celebrate it. I guess it's similar to riding through a dog's egg on my bike. Having got home and washed it off, it isn't really a cause for celebration....
Could Pence be substituted in for the second debate against Biden?
Good point. Tactical flounce by The Donald?
Perhaps there is some mileage in a VP-off, Pence vs Harris?
Could Pence be substituted in for the second debate against Biden?
Good point. Tactical flounce by The Donald?
Perhaps there is some mileage in a VP-off, Pence vs Harris?
I wouldn't think so. You're either on the ticket or not. You can't have a stand-in. There is a VP debate, next Thurs.
I genuinely wouldn’t give a toss if Trump died of covid, I just wouldn’t wish it, nor celebrate it.
I’m happy to admit I’m a bad person. I hope it kills the selfish prick. Don’t even feel remotely bad for saying so. I have more compassion for plants than I do for him. He’s a despicable idiot and I would enjoy him meeting his end from something he has been utterly blasé about others suffering and dying from. People he should have been helping to protect. Utter ****.
Hmmmm... This got me thinking as much about my own reaction to the news as much as the actual news he has it.
I'm finding it very, very difficult to find sympathy for him given the amount of lives his actions/ inactions have cost. This troubles me.
So, I'm going to say that I hope this news triggers people over there to take it more seriously and it might then actually save some lives.
So I'm going to be selfish and because it helps me in my mind, wish him well.
I’m finding it very, very difficult to find sympathy for him given the amount of lives his actions/ inactions have cost. This troubles me.
It's a big leap from feeling unsympathetic to wishing death on someone you dislike.
It’s a big leap from feeling unsympathetic to wishing death on someone you dislike.
It should be. Because if it isn't, you are already a long way down a very bleak road.
Even for a **** like Trump
Yes but when does it become acceptable to do so? Wishing death upon Hitler/Osama/lots of random brown people in the middle east via drone strike is perfectly fine apparently. Wishing it on a possible sex offender and corrupt president apparently gets you a frown and joking about it happening to a blonde buffoon gets you banned.
Clearly defined guidelines please.
Clearly defined guidelines please.
Are you incapable of working it out for yourself?
It’s a big leap from feeling unsympathetic to wishing death on someone you dislike.
It should be. Because if it isn’t, you are already a long way down a very bleak road.
Even for a **** like Trump
Nah, it’s easy to have empathy for 99% of the human race and still wish people like Trump dead. Not even near the junction of any bleak roads tbh.
If the offences someone may be guilty of carry the death penalty, I'm comfortable with that. Otherwise, I'm happier that they have a slow decline in prison.
I’m not a fan of the death penalty at all. Too many innocent or mentally ill people lose their lives because of it. If Trump goes to jail it will be of the white collar, country club variety. Barely discernible from a holiday village. Even then it won’t be for long.
Clearly defined guidelines please.
Can I get guidelines about Lance Armstong's place on the spectrum of Hitler to Hello Kitty please?
Anyway, not sure how to link but Matt in the Torygraph tomorrow has absolutely nailed the impact of the news on the US election 🤣🤣
Can I get guidelines about Lance Armstong’s place on the spectrum of Hitler to Hello Kitty please?
+1
Any decent photoshopppers or visio people here? Can have a straight line spectrum type chart or a decision tree? Maybe Mark can then sticky it so we're all clear.
I plead guilty to having a smirk when I heard the news....
BUT,
Try as I might I can’t wish anyone ill if they test positive for Covid , not even him.
It’s Melania I really feel sorry for in all this,
I mean, imagine having to isolate with him for even a day, never mind a week or more 🙈
If the offences someone may be guilty of carry the death penalty, I’m comfortable with that. Otherwise, I’m happier that they have a slow decline in prison.
franksinatra - melania, yes; mcananey, definitely not.
It should be. Because if it isn’t, you are already a long way down a very bleak road.
Exactly this.
It isn't about Trump or Hitler or Pol Pot or whoever.
It is a line I don't want to cross for my own perception of me and my self respect.
Can I get guidelines about Lance Armstong’s place on the spectrum of Hitler to Hello Kitty
I would suggest about midway. Armstrong is a repellent person but not responsible for mass death
Anyway, not sure how to link but Matt in the Torygraph tomorrow has absolutely nailed the impact of the news on the US election 🤣🤣
https://twitter.com/MattCartoonist/status/1312064577388118016?s=20
Hello Kitty spawned millions of cheap plastic tat toys, doing untold environmental damage in the process. Kitty's hands paws are not clean.
My rationale is this:
Trump lives - COVID is the flu - no or even less action taken - 100,000 more deaths.
Trump dies - COVID is real - even republicans start to think about action - 100,000 fewer deaths.
That and he’s just a hateful individual who has done more to wreck humanity than anyone in generations.
Good point dannyh
I think we can agree on the other end - Hitler / pol pot is the "evil" end but who for the other end?
Valerie Singleton?
Jeez is that Stockwell station picture real?!
It's starting to look like the Supreme Court nominee announcement event on the White House lawn last weekend is linked to a number of the positive COVID cases being announced.
https://twitter.com/timjhogan/status/1312070457097678849
https://twitter.com/sbg1/status/1312070451535978510
David Attenborough would be my punt for the good end of the spectrum... or possibly Stimpy J Cat
Those adult nappies don’t change themselves, you know
Eeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww! 🤢🤮
First Lady positive suggests that they actually spend time in the same room together
Same helicopter with the actual carrier.
David Attenborough would be my punt for the good end of the spectrum
As he is our patron at work, I can confirm he glows with warmth, innocence and love. I swear he could walk on water...
So a fight between Sir David and Valerie Singleton to decide the winner...
Can I chuck Floella Benjamin and Timmy Mallett into the mix?
Can I chuck Floella Benjamin and Timmy Mallett into the mixer?
FTFY.
Terry Waite.
That tweet/video of the ACB event is an absolute case study in stupidity isn't it? Incredible stuff.
Wonder what they will make of stuff like this in the generations to come?
Wonder what they will make of stuff like this in the generations to come?
We don't need to wait to know that answer.
So a fight between Sir David and Valerie Singleton to decide the winner…
They'd probably sit down for a cuppa in David's garden, with his new pal Kate Windsor.
Apparently Don hasn't tweeted for 12 hours...
Now THAT is unusual. Perhaps he's just constipated though?
Congrats to the Ayr Advertiser for their headline.
"Turnberry hotelier tests positive for coronavirus"
BBC reporting that he is off to hospital
Should I be feeling compassion yet?
