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Member@joat- agreed. Why can’t they (journalists in the room) get up and walk out and all the outlets ( apart from Fox obvs) just switch him off? The whole system of checks and balances no longer applies in the current US political arena, so just plain ignore him.
The Donald’s childish petty vindictive incoherent outbursts make easy click bait headlines
I’d rather the journalists beat him to death with their microphones, pens and notebooks.
Nice (!) montage of Agent Orange’s most reality-denying outpourings:
https://boingboing.net/2020/04/14/watching-trump-deny-reality-is.html
402 pages dedicated to him when “He’s a dick” pretty much sums it up nicely. I’ve never wished harm on anyone, but genuinely wish Trump would drop dead or get assassinated. He’s just a vile piece of shit.
I keep wishing for him to check-out Elvis style
I think it’d be better if all the journalists walked out and left him blabbering on to himself. It might just make him realise he’s just a big spoilt brat, might…
All true.
It would be funny if he wasn't going to end up being our enforced 'bestie' come 1st Jan 2021.
Just as Corona wave 2 is at its peak.
Remember that Lying Blohard is still pushing ahead with Brexi even with a pandemic on the go.
Those shady backers have been guaranteed the payday of a generation remember......
So Trump suspends the US portion of the funding of the WHO.
Surely now is the time for other world leaders to step in and cover the US’s share and call Trump a dick? Not sugarcoat it with diplomatic pleasantries but crude to the point terms that really express their feelings.
And then someone please assassinate him. Preferably painfully.
His Team realise he is looking useless at the moment, so they turn to attacking the WHO, he can now say it is all their fault as they weren't quick enough raising the alarm.
His Supporters will believe every word.
I see reporters immediately tried to remind him of his January tweets praising the Chinese response 😄
our enforced ‘bestie’ come 1st Jan 2021.
Just as Corona wave 2 is at its peak.
Any official predictions on that? It's presumably a risk
Those shady backers have been guaranteed the payday of a generation
</blockquoute>Wonder which direction the shady backers would have gone with Brexit if they'd known the entire world economy was about to tank?
it's now the donald trump commemorative stimulus cheque. which sounds crass but shows someone somewhere is thinking on their feet.
At this point all I'm hoping is this will all go down in history as the US's failed experiment at electing a lunatic narcissist as a one term President followed by him & most of his family and friends being imprisoned for embezzlement/fraud and a number of measures being put in place to ensure it can never happen again.
Sadly I think it's more likely he'll pull a Putin and manage to stay in power beyond two terms, or there really will be a civil war in the US.
Also is there any truth to the US fed gov seizing medical supplies states and individual hospitals have purchased (and them having to buy them back from federally appointed private distribution firms), and that some states are now using state police to escort supplies to prevent the seizures? If so it's just utter madness...
@fuzzy sems like it started a week or so ago
The Kraft family (owners of Patriots) also orderd a load from China and had it escorted using state troopers to the hosptials to avoid it going near federal control.
Someone on Reddit posted that Trump is just a 'useful idiot' to push through regressive self-serving GOP policies and act as a smokescreen to further the aims of a corrupt state machine.
I can sort of see that. He's perfect for the role. It's disgusting, either way. How did we get here 🙁
Wonder which direction the shady backers would have gone with Brexit if they’d known the entire world economy was about to tank?
Not the short term hedge fund / speculators / national-level insider traders.
These are the middle to long term backers who don't just want to make a quick hundred million whichever way things go like the short term spivs. They've already cashed in. What I am on about are the longer term shady backers who want to make tens of billions dismantling the NHS, Education etc. And, of course, it is a one way bet. Outsourcing public services that can't be allowed to fail totally and where the public end up picking up the pieces once the dividends, bonuses and 'salaries' are safely offshore.
Someone on Reddit posted that...
I know there are some fairly extreme views on Reddit but it is remarkable to see how many people on there completely buy into the narrative that China and the WHO somehow misled and tricked the US.
I've had several conversations where I have pointed out that the actual chronological timeline doesn't fit with story.
Plus the small fact that Trump claimed in mid-March that he had "always known this is a real—this is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic"
Apparently Trumps name will appear on the benefit cheques being sent out in US.
You actually couldn't make this stuff up!
Apparently he'd asked to sign them but that had to be the Treasurer. So instead he wanted his name printed on them - which is delaying the sending out of the cheques. 🙄
As usual it's all about Donny.
it's crass and genius at the same time (though probably not his idea, though it plays well to his ego).
Quite hilarious to watch Republicans suddenly be enthusiastic about benefits, state help and essentially "Democratic Socialism" (though they'd never call it that)
I know there are some fairly extreme views on Reddit
Oh yeah, I wasn't suggesting using Reddit comments as any form of sensible information-gathering, but that comment did shift my perspective a bit.
He's a Useful Idiot. He distracts from the issues on policy and keeps the opposition occupied by drawing their ire and anger.
Even for Trump, cutting WHO funding during an actual pandemic is next level shitehawk behavior.
He rightly needs to be called out, and the likes of China, Germany and the UK should be steeping up to fill the budget gap and calling him out while doing it.
Don't even get me start on having Trump's name on benefit cheques. Its the kind of display of self-centered pettiness you normally only see in badly behaved children.
It seems utterly inconceivable that any one could consider re-electing this fool, but I guarantee that the election in November will be close run, such is the tribalism of US politics, at least 40% of the population would rather vote for the worst president in history than a Democrat.
Its the kind of display of self-centered pettiness you normally only see in badly behaved children
He is a petty, badly behaved child.
I'd say insisting his name's on cheques is probably more electioneering than pettiness
Quite possibly.
Your statement in no way invalidates mine.
I’d say insisting his name’s on cheques is probably more electioneering than pettiness
I’m surprised he’s gone down that road, literally putting his name on what is a socialist idea.
At this point all I’m hoping is this will all go down in history as the US’s failed experiment at electing a lunatic narcissist as a one term President
You'd have thought, given their long history of electing idiots, morons, assholes, paranoid wannabe dictators, they'd have learned by now...but no; they just keep on at it. Look up Herbert Hoover, John Tyler, Warren Harding (makes Trump look like a pion of moral virtue) Andrew Jackson (violent drunk with a fondness for battering people with his stick)
He rightly needs to be called out, and the likes of China, Germany and the UK should be steeping up to fill the budget gap and calling him out while doing it.
China definitely, since it's their mess the WHO is trying to clean up
I might be wrong, but I thought the UK was one of the biggest contributors to the WHO and have already stepped up.
I bet Trump never catches this virus and will be first in line for the vaccine.
He'll never spend a day in jail and will live out a long and pampered life.
Stuff like this makes me realise there is no such thing as karma.
He's now spouting out that the US will be open again earlier than anyone else.
He'll kill lots more people doing that, all he's thinking about is his re-election where he can say he closed his country for the shortest time and beat the virus better than anyone else.
Mind you the US is the only country having protests, in Michigan, about people being told to stay at home so maybe the general public over there don't give a shit.
Rest easy, Don's $1,200 cheques will be buying those at the top a much needed new yacht or 3rd/4th home. Rather than frivolous and luxurious stuff like food and meds for those at the bottom.
^^ I saw those protests on the news. All deliberately breaking social distancing to have their pictures taken with their aAR 15 assault rifles...
Seeing that kind of stupidity really makes me think Trump is going to get re-elected.😟
I might be wrong, but I thought the UK was one of the biggest contributors to the WHO and have already stepped up.
I’ve only seen a statement we’ll continue funding rather than stepping up, by which I mean contribute to making up the shortfall.
He’s now spouting out that the US will be open again earlier than anyone else.
He’ll kill lots more people doing that, all he’s thinking about is his re-election where he can say he closed his country for the shortest time and beat the virus better than anyone else.
Mind you the US is the only country having protests, in Michigan, about people being told to stay at home so maybe the general public over there don’t give a shit.
The worry is his fan base will believe & it might just give him the leverage to do it - a second wave of infection will kill off the US economy with quite catastrophic results. Far worse than what we are currently seeing.....but hey it’s an election year - so whatever the F the orange turd can do to keep the GOP in power is just fing dandy. Ironicall & tragically, most of those who vote for him will be the ones who will suffer the greatest should the US open up too soon..
It's a no lose for him though. He'll chuck in some vague social distancing rule and berate any state that doesn't reopen. Then if it all goes base over apex then it's the state's, company's, individual's fault that they didn't follow his rule/wear facemasks, take his pill.
If there's no second wave then he'll be the genius saviour of the western world.
He's willing to bet thousands+ of lives on the outcome.
Yeah if it works he's a genius if it doesn't the it's someone else's fault and a conspiracy and fake news and you're a disgusting person. I really hope he doesn't they re-elected and faces some justice without the ability to hide behind the presidential banner.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52304993
Check out the woman in the video who is worried about her hair roots!! Trump isn't the only bonkers one over there.
"finalize guidelines" that's the crunch term in his speach.
Mind you the US is the only country having protests,
Spoke to my uncle who lives near the beach in North Carolina. Apparently people are starting court actions over not being able to visit there second homes!!
“finalize guidelines” that’s the crunch term in his speach.
Will be interesting to see if all the red-state governors obey the king, while the blue ones ignore him. A real-time side-by-side experiment in epidemic management.
I thought that us gun laws had influenced by a large part in having militia to counter an out of control government? That doesn't really work when the president of the out of control government's supporters are most likely to be the one in a militia group!
Trump is playing right in to China's and Putin's hands in destroying US authority, whilst there's plenty not to like about Trump and US politics the thought of China and Russia gaining even more influence is scary.
Whilst I think Trump is an awful president and human being, I think all of this does ignore the fact that the WHO suffers from the same problem as many organisations of its kind, namely corruption.
Look at how its leaders have got to their positions and you’ll see what I mean.
JP
This is the response to someone who questioned Trump cutting WHO funding on Facebook. (I know it's Facebook but gives a good indication of how his supporters think.)
This is the start, china need to pay for this world economic melt down!!! Trump is only man with balls to do it, the rest are in chinese pocket!!!ebook.
WHO and the UN are a waste of money and effort. What have either really accomplished? World still have wars, hunger and disease. Another is the EU.
WHO protected China until 1,000,000 residents could fly out of the country
The way WHO dealt with the China issue was detrimental to world health. They are really just a bunch of delegates who meet to discuss stats and data and publish the results. They DO nothing.
might be wrong, but I thought the UK was one of the biggest contributors to the WHO and have already stepped up.
We pitched in another £200M. Tedros thanked the UK at one of last week's WHO briefings. Not all direct to WHO, but all for the COVID effort in developing nations.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52258449
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251168994066944003?s=19<
He's awake and off, someone will die this weekend as he (and fox) are cranking his base up
Edit
And there it is
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251169987110330372?s=19
The 2nd amendment,
He’s an absolute ****ing tool and when this is all over and thousands are dead because of him he should be held accountable. I really hope he dies soon, I genuinely wish death upon him. It’s the only thing capable of stopping his staggering dickhead behaviour.
I do wonder what the death toll will have to get to before his base start to turn lon him. Given how much his less well off voters aren't keen on universal healthcare, I suspect it might be seven or eight digits. Even then most of the true believers will be of the opinion that it would have been worse under Obama/if they shut the economy/couldn't have a haircut when they wanted.
I just wish for something difficult that he can't defend/wriggle out of/pay off/leverage people on and be held to account. If that means death, so be it.
I was reading about Ivanka Trump, it seems the whole family are a bunch of arseholes.
No dont jail him, and keep him alive. Just bankrupt him the follow his descent into madness and loneliness on daily briefings. Let it be a warning to all self.serving politicians.
Take his wig away. That’ll **** him up!
And there's the fox connection
https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1251171455901020160?s=19
The blokes teflon, it wouldn't surprise me if he caught Corona virus and beat it, then gets re-elected
The issue underlying all attempts to hold trump accountable or influence him is the two party system where partisanship is more important than having integrity.
Just like when they tried to impeach him.
Frightening times ahead for anyone in USA.
Just bankrupt him the follow his descent into madness and loneliness on daily briefings.
He's had 6 bankrupt businesses already - "I do play with the bankruptcy laws—they're very good for me."
Theres a good article Here about how hes used bankruptcy and debt to evade going under
A lot of the high death rates are in poor, urban, Democrat areas sadly.
It's not affecting his redneck heartland as bad yet.
If you’ve not seen it then watch the Trump documentary on Netflix. You can watch his descent from fairly normal, if thoroughly unpleasant businessman into completely unhinged megalomaniac.
It’s not a comfortable watch
I mean, what he’s basically advocating at the moment is for armed militia to rise up and overthrow state governments
That is absolutely off the scale mentalness
Isn’t specifically telling people to use their 2nd amendment rights (arm oneself in order to form a militia to overthrow a tyrannous government) in some way treasonous?
binners
SubscriberI mean, what he’s basically advocating at the moment is for armed militia to rise up and overthrow state governments
In protest against a lockdown which he himself supports and in fact has tried to claim he has sole authority over whether or not it stays in force.
Isn’t specifically telling people to use their 2nd amendment rights (arm oneself in order to form a militia to overthrow a tyrannous government) in some way treasonous?
No, he’s the King, he can do whatever he wants, and they’re not overthrowing his government, just using armed insurrection to take over state governments and replace them with something more in line with their way of thinking.
Here’s a bunch of recent articles about Dear Leader across the pond, worth having a bit of a read:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politics/fact-check-trump-april-16/
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/16/21223600/hyper-partisanship-republicans-coronavirus-trump-hopkins
https://apnews.com/ea4c17f541c7c63fac52941a6f43b885
https://www.salon.com/2020/04/16/bless-you-fox-news-stars-shower-blessings-upon-protesters-for-violating-coronavirus-restrictions/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/16/trumps-chinatown-tweet-pelosis-visit-draws-criticism-online/5149296002/
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-tweets-liberate-michigan-minnesota-virginia-986035/
I’d love to know what Melania says/thinks behind the scenes, i’m giving her credit for having half a brain and that she’s probably really pissed off she hasn't shagged him into a heart attack over the years.
It's hard to be shocked by Trump anymore but when I saw this earlier I genuinely was.
Incredible.
From Nate White via Quora, stolen from UKC...
Someone on Quora asked" “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:
"A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?’
If being a tw*t was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
Now that's what I call a character assassination.👍
Crikey, I enjoyed reading that. I wish I could write as well.
crikey - what a fantastic post; have forwarded to my son and american wife who live in the US and have invited them to share with some of the natives.
Well, that's interesting. I tried to find Nate White's answer on Quora and guess what, the question has been deleted.
Glad I got to read it here.
That description of trump is epic
When you consider it, even makes our own PM not seen such a ....
I mean I could probably have a pint with jo hnson, even if I can't stand anything he stands for.
I mean I could probably have a pint with jo hnson,
He’d like you to think you’d have a pint with him. But he wouldn’t actually turn up. So you’d have to drink your pint with an empty chair.
I mean I could probably have a pint with jo hnson, even if I can’t stand anything he stands for.
Yep he’s more personable, but I think you’d wake up the next day and realise you’d bought all the rounds thou 🙂
It’s hard to be shocked by Trump anymore but when I saw this earlier I genuinely was.
Incredible.
Yep....
Not sure if he’s like Nero or Caligula.
Yep he’s more personable, but I think you’d wake up the next day and realise you’d bought all the rounds thou
Although <span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">he would have course claimed he settled the bill...</span>
I am slightly heartened by the way the press are no longer just taking his lies, and are actually challenging them a little, to his face.
He still denies the lie, but it's simple to prove by showing a quick clip. It does make him look ridiculous.
The good news is that by the first Monday in November he is out. Hopefully the election will be cancelled, or he will be thrashed by Biden and normal folk will have come to their senses.
The good news is that by the first Monday in November he is out.
That's a brave assumption
The good news is that by the first Monday in November he is out.
If there's one thing experience has taught us, never under estimate stupid.
He’s going to walk his re-election.
We look in horror at these gun-toting, redneck shit-kickers, who are quoting the second amendment as their divine right to die of Coronavirus, but unfortunately they’re the ones who get to vote.
And they all bloody love Trump! He shares their crass, witless ignorance. He’s one of their own
Very well put Bonners, it is bloody frightening.
All over the former British empire and the Middle East people are agreeing with
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdog...And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
He’s going to walk his re-election.
I’d be surprised if he doesn’t. Frightening.
That’s a brave assumption
No, it's the law in the US. The current presidency ends.
He needs to be voted back in or a replacement voted in. Let's hope the morons protesting are still too ill to go and make their mark
BBC News - Coronavirus: Could Donald Trump delay the presidential election?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52326166
Ah, I've rechecked and it's the January after that date in November.
Damn...