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Covering up the fact that they killed 15 in friendly fire incedent last month?

So 50 odd cruse missiles put an airbase out of action for 2 days and now 30 odd Isis fighters killed by a bomb with a blast radius of a one mile.
And Obama dropped something simular when he was looking for bin laden in the cave systems so small hands can no longer say Obama was soft on terrorism can he.
Is trumps foreign policy going to be bully boy tactics and dick waving cus we all know how well that works on the world stage. Way out of his depth it seems I can see them bombing North Korea before the years out


 
Posted : 14/04/2017 10:59 am
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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and the donald is not made of the finest moral fibre know to humanity.

He was also going to have external conflict as he was always going to fail internally so he needs the distraction of it all

North korea is a much more worrying scenario tbh and all that remains to be seen is just how far the mad men with the bad haircuts will go in their power duel


 
Posted : 14/04/2017 11:05 am
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Well those weapons need to be replaced. "Bringing jobs back to America".


 
Posted : 14/04/2017 11:23 am
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Even China are saying the Korean Peninsula is about fall off the cliff maybe they have lost control of the silly boy Kim.
China has put 150 thou troops on the norths border either that's to bluster and bluff the south and USA or they feel that they might get millions of refugees poring over the border if it kicks off.
I don't think the world has had so many terror groups on all parts of the globe.
China is having problems they even are banning beards and head gear in some parts
Russia well that's just a mess
Europe is getting all those jihad holiday makers return with the skills they picked up
And the US looks like it's locking up and pulling up the drawbridge but that won't help as they have far to many guns In circulation and they seem to struggle with home grown terrorist over the last 10 years

We just need a steady hand on the ships wheel


 
Posted : 14/04/2017 11:39 am
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Where did you read about China?


 
Posted : 14/04/2017 11:48 am
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30373877

May be fake news,,, it's near the end of piece surprisingly well written too. I don't think the proper jurnos get to report on the main page news items anymore


 
Posted : 14/04/2017 12:49 pm
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And the US looks like it's locking up and pulling up the drawbridge

Apart from loosing off a few missiles after dinner.


 
Posted : 14/04/2017 1:07 pm
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Ran out of Ferrero Rocher or after 8s an needed a quick diversion IMHO.


 
Posted : 14/04/2017 8:17 pm
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[url= http://newsthump.com/2017/04/14/human-race-encouraged-to-enjoy-their-final-easter-free-from-crippling-radiation-poisoning/ ]Human race encouraged to enjoy their final Easter free from crippling radiation poisoning[/url]


 
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Posted : 16/04/2017 8:58 am
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So these TrumpTweets from 2013 resurfaced for some odd reason...

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- via [url= http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/07/trump-tweet-about-world-war-iii-comes-back-to-haunt-him-6560159/ ]Metro[/url] and the internet generally.


 
Posted : 18/04/2017 2:56 pm
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He's no babe,he must be a suckling !


 
Posted : 19/04/2017 8:28 am
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Saw this excellent caption
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Posted : 19/04/2017 8:47 am
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Hold on - is that our left, or his left?


 
Posted : 20/04/2017 1:09 am
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What trump is a lefitie!


 
Posted : 20/04/2017 1:13 am
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[url= http://newsthump.com/2017/04/20/donald-trumps-biggest-critic-now-his-own-2013-twitter-account/ ]Donald Trump’s biggest critic now his own 2013 Twitter account[/url]

and a more serious story

[url= http://www.stonekettle.com/2017/04/the-hubris-of-ignorance.html ]The Hubris of Ignorance[/url]


 
Posted : 20/04/2017 7:55 pm
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Has Trump got Alzheimer's / Dementia?


 
Posted : 20/04/2017 7:56 pm
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Dementure
is this where you forget to put your teeth in,?


 
Posted : 20/04/2017 7:59 pm
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graham : that's a brilliant account of the current state of play with trump, cheers for posting.

It's going to go [i]fubar[/i] at some point, i just hope it does not involve the UK when it does.


 
Posted : 20/04/2017 9:21 pm
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So Republicans’ strategy, right now, is to replace a law that’s more popular than they are with a bill that was polling at 17 percent before it went down in flames. And their approach to doing that isn’t a new campaign where they persuade the public that the AHCA is a good idea, nor is it a new proposal that fixes the problems that made the old bill so unpopular.

Perfect sense


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 1:22 am
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Selective fake news

The survey quoted is here: http://www.gallup.com/poll/207671/affordable-care-act-gains-majority-approval-first-time.aspx?g_source=Aca&g_medium=search&g_campaign=tiles

[i]55% approve, up from 42% right after 2016 election
40% want to keep law but make significant changes
30% want to repeal; 26% want to keep law as it is[/i]

So, it's so popular that only half the quoted approval figure really approve of it


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 2:34 am
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On that logic what percentage of the 39% who support Trump still want to make significant changes to him?
Does it make Trump more popular or mean that more people believe him.

Given the 17% who support the proposed alternative it makes the 26% who don't want to change the AHCA seem decent doesn't it.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 2:55 am
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I don't understand your point ninfan.
40% want to keep law but make significant changes, 26% want to keep law as it is.
I make that 66% want to keep it which is even higher than the 55% "approval".


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:30 am
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I don't understand your point ninfan.

ninfan doesn't even understand his own points anymore, the poor soul has developed an automatic conditioned response to reply to attacks on Trump with spurious and often non-sensical outbursts of fake news.

He's went full trump.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 10:01 am
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waaah waah waah - more ad-hom leftie whinging.

Its nonsense

If you want to see "significant changes" then you don't 'approve' of the ACA - you may well approve of the concept of affordable healthcare , but not the act as it stands.

Would be interesting to see the approval figures when they asked using the Obamacare title rather than ACA.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 11:06 am
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So by your own logic 55% approve of the ACA and 45% want to see "significant changes". At least we are in agreement.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 11:09 am
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55% approve of the ACA

But 74% want significant change or repeal

Overwhelming support for the status quo

#Leftielogic


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 11:17 am
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Would be interesting to see the approval figures when they asked using the Obamacare title rather than ACA.

What do you think those would demonstrate ninfan?

Because to me a lower approval rating when it is referred to as "Obamacare" would only demonstrate that some people are more caught up in hype and rhetoric than facts.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 11:21 am
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Presumably a number of those seeking "significant changes" want changes that bring it closer to Obama's original vision before it got watered down and compromised by party politics?

i.e. Some seek changes for [i]more[/i] Obamacare, not less.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 11:24 am
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Ah I see. So you lump the "keep but with significant change" votes with "repeal"? Interesting.
#ninfact


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 11:50 am
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waaah waah waah - more ad-hom leftie whinging.

Oh the ironing.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 1:15 pm
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waaah waah waah - more ad-hom leftie whinging.

This is the pitiful cry of a failing troll.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 1:28 pm
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Ninfan - quick question: you do know that the term "leftie" is not, in and of itself, an insult? In fact some of the people you call a leftie probably don't actually consider it offensive.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 7:42 pm
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Ninfan - quick question: you do know that the term "leftie" is not, in and of itself, an insult? In fact some of the people you call a leftie probably don't actually consider it offensive.

Ninfan ... sorry to hijack your question but let me answer this ...

You do know that I cannot use other descriptions other than lefties don't you? If I were to use anything else as description they (lefties) would go huffing and puffing ... hopping mad they are, like the whole world has collapsed and make such a big deal out of it. So like treating children with tantrums I just have to stop describing them my way ... 😆


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 8:09 pm
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Why bother Chewy? I just lump them together like the virtue signalling amorphous blob they are.

The day they start forming their own opinions, I'll treat them as individuals.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 8:53 pm
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waaah waah waah - more ad-hom swivel-eyed whinging. 😆


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:43 pm
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😆


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:45 pm
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100 days, still a Bawbag.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:46 pm
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I still have no idea what virtue signalling is. Ah well, my loss I suppose.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:52 pm
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Accusing people of virtue signalling is a fun bit of pyschology- the entire idea is that when people say something nice, they don't mean it, they're only saying it to make other people [i]think[/i] they're nice. It can't be motivated by actually being nice, or saying what you genuinely think, everything is a ruse.

Obviously to think that's true, you have to be a sociopath.

But that's OK, because most people who say it now don't think it's true, in fact often they don't really understand what it meant at all. Today, it's like "do-gooder" on steroids- a brute force attempt to turn any sort of commendable thought or behavior no matter how small, into a sin.

Give 20p to a homeless person? Virtue signalling. Criticise a racist? Virtue signalling. Not being an arsehole in any way is now virtue signalling.

Why would you do that? Why would you have an insult in your vocabulary just to use on people who aren't arseholes? There's a few reasons I can see, and not one of them is anything I'd be able to admit to myself I did. I'd probably go and accuse people of virtue signalling instead, to make myself feel better.

So it's like "snowflake"- a term that's become almost devoid of real meaning when used, but which has gained a whole new use as a diagnostic for people who say it.


 
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[quote=Northwind ]So it's like "snowflake"- a term that's become almost devoid of real meaning when used, but which has gained a whole new use as a diagnostic for people who say it.

Shhh - don't give away the secret that us lefties* rely on the use of those terms as a means of telling who is an arse.

* I'm using the ninfan definition here of anybody who isn't as right wing as him - ie almost everybody


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 10:47 pm
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As a matter of interest, what happened to that whole "sorting North Korea out" thing?


 
Posted : 22/04/2017 12:25 am
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Spot on Northwind, spot on.

Unfortunately, I feel your erudite description of the mocking tactic used by ninfan et al will go straight over his head..


 
Posted : 22/04/2017 1:23 am
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The day they start forming their own opinions, I'll treat them as individuals.

Or do you mean the day they start agreeing with you?....


 
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