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the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake that you have ever seen

More missiles vicar.

So NATO is no longer obsolete?

Imagine having to work with this guy 🙁

And China is now not a currency manipulator even though he banged on about it during his campaign.

Must stop watching early news 😆

Listened to the Tillerson press conference with Lavrov, and you could see a hint of the strenuous efforts being made behind the scene to normalise relations.

Cut to Drumpf an hour later, and relations are at the 'lowest point' ever, apparently (clearly not a student of the Cuban Missile Crisis).

As above, imagine having to work with/for this guy. Changing policy on a whim, based on the last person he talked to or whatever half-fact is passing through the sphincter of Fox and Friends at that moment. No concept that the language of diplomacy is different to whatever deal-making BS he thinks he has.

He does not seem to understand that other countries have just as much hubris as he does and that they want to save face and be respected.

They need to be charmed not bullied and he has only ever had the skill set/personality to do the later.

[tinfoilhat]Then again the best way to shut down the russia rumour is a massive public falling out with them,preferably militarily [ but with no casualties] and some harsh words "diplomatically"....makes you think eh[/tinfoilhat]

"holocaust camps"

ninfan - Member

given that he was prepared to starve people by the Million. ICW.

Interesting sideline there actually, the scaled and drawn rations for forced labourers was actually quite close to that of the German soldiers, research has shown that much of the difference, resulting in starvation rations, was down to widespread corruption, often unpunished, but there are recorded examples of Germans supply officers being reprimanded and punished over it.

"For prisoners, meal times were the most important event of each day. After morning roll call the prisoners would be given their morning ‘meal’ – imitation coffee or herbal ‘tea’. For lunch prisoners may have been given watery soup. If they were lucky, they might find a piece of turnip or potato peel.

In the evening prisoners may have been given a small piece of black bread; they may also have received a tiny piece of sausage, or some marmalade or cheese. The bread was supposed to last the prisoners for the morning also, so prisoners would try to hide it on their person whilst they slept.

Hunger was one of the greatest problems. [b]The meagre rations were merely intended to keep the prisoners alive. The Nazis did not provide prisoners with sufficient nutrition to carry out heavy manual work. Many thousands died from starvation or illnesses brought on by lack of nutrition.[/b]" http://www.theholocaustexplained.org/ks3/the-camps/daily-life/meals/#.WO88TGfTXIU

" standard "marching rations" for units on the go, out of the support range of Feldküchen (Field Kitchens). Normally, this was meant for units moving from point a to point b, but was designed to be fed up to four days. All service groups (Armored, Mechanized and Infantry) received the same rations.

700 or 750 grams (25-26.5oz) of Graubrot (Gray Rye Bread--Not the stuff with caraway seed). Wrapped in Wax Paper or tinfoil backed paper

200 to 300 grams of Fleisch or 160 grams Wurst (Tinned meat or Sausage) or Käse (Tinned cheese) (many times this was issued as dried sausages and lumps of cheese wrapped in butcher paper)

125 to 175 grams (4.4-6.1oz) of Vegetables (or 50 grams preserved vegetables)

15 grams (1/2 ounce) of Jam, Honey, Hazelnut Paste or Margarine/Butter (issued into lard dish)

5 grams of Coffee (Generally in the form of some sort of "Ersatz" Instant or as a shared pack of 20 grams for 4 troops).

5 grams of Sugar. This was issued either in small bags, as part of the instant coffee ration, or, more rarely, in the form of rock candy."

Wow, who to believe; an unpleasant internet troll or theholocaustexplained.org

As I said - a little bit of encouragement and new heights of peak ninfannyness can be acheived, and I'm sure there's more to come

[quote=mikewsmith ]Using Sean Spicers initials in a discussion where he is talking about Hitler is just another layer of fail on the whole thing.

It wasn't initially deliberate...

Wow, who to believe;

Take it up with the MI6 officer (TXH Pancheff) who actually did the war crimes investigation for the war office and wrote this book on the issue:

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Take it up with the MI6 officer (TXH Pancheff) who actually did the war crimes investigation for the war office and wrote this book on the issue:

Can't see your link - what's it to - "Holocaust centers"? Or Channel Islands ?

Before this descends into another farce, it's worth noting that Ninfan is referring to "forced labour" (commonly Russian/Slav prisoners) on the Channel Islands whereas Kilo is referring to those incarcerated in the concentration/extermination camps. Two very different scenarios.

Edit: Here's a [url= https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Forced_workers ]link to details about the forced labour[/url] on the Channel Islands. Not easy reading

Could you stick up the page which talks about conditions for forced labour in Eastern Europe? You seem to have inadvertently used something about the Channel Islands to make some kind of point. 🙂

guys you think he will admit his error and accept the obvious point that the germans did not look after the prisoners in the death camps all that well and this extended to not feeding them very well hence the large numbers who starved to death. Its not really a point worth debating and it certainly not worth debating with the confused troll who would post any old shit as long as it gets a reaction

as long as we respond he will keep saying anything as long as its not rational, relevant or kind obvs

I suppose being an obsessive Troll is a notch or two (in this context) up on being an actual Nazi...

I mean, I'm assuming the former is the case...

Don't know why you guys engage with Nifan. All he wants to do is wind you up. I feel sorry for him tbh. Clearly he's upset in the real world to want to choose to come online and behave the way he does.

Anyway. This just happened in Afghanistan...

Massive Ordnance Air Blast.

This just happened in Afghanistan...

Published on 19 Feb 2017

Independant are reporting it...

[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gbu-43b-mother-of-all-bombs-massive-ordnance-air-blast-afghanistan-isis-a7682996.html ]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gbu-43b-mother-of-all-bombs-massive-ordnance-air-blast-afghanistan-isis-a7682996.html[/url]

2 different videos

Here's a video of a big MOAB bomb going off to illustrate the same sort of bomb that's just been dropped in a different location so you can see what one of these bombs looks like when it's going off.

Happy?

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39583571 ]China 'not a currency manipulator'[/url]

china not a currency manipulator

Quid pro quo Clarice:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korean-ships-head-home-after-china-orders-coal-returned-n745006

@Junky:

admit his error and accept the obvious point that the germans did not look after the prisoners in the death camps all that well

Suggest you go back and read what I actually wrote rather than what you appear to have extrapolated it into in your own head (ps, you can put your tenner into Mike Halls collection)

I'd suggest you go back and read what you replied to which made no mention of the forced labour where you attempted to deflect the point to* ** - except that actually JY is right, there is zero chance of you admitting any sort of error.

* though in fact oob clarified that he was referring to the hunger plan rather than death camps - in either case the original point about Hitler deliberately starving people is proven

** I have to admit I'm surprised even at you employing such deflection tactics in order to defend Hitler - but hey ho, I guess that proves something about how low you are prepared to go

p.s sorry Junky - I did try hard not to directly engage with him in a way which would require a response

I understand but its pointless as we all know he is lying and saying it to get attention so any response gives him joy and encourages his MO

Still the world is made of up strange folks with their own inner demons to satisfy and using nazis and lying is not to low for him

Yep, because after all, we haven't listened to months and months of lefties comparing Trump to Hitler, have we?

It's strange though Junky, for all the times you keep saying about ignoring me, you keep posting about me - I'm wondering if this is developing into a bit of a fetish? Like back when you got all upset over being called Junky rather than Junkyard.

Big Bomb. UK press reporting it was IS tunnels in Afghan. French press saying it was Syrian bunkers ?

China is a currency manipulator. They hold their currency down hugely in value, more than 50% ?

Anyone remember Obama joking about drone striking anyone who tried it on with his daughters? Trump is approaching those levels of inappropriateness with this choc cake/ missile talk.

we haven't listened to months and months of lefties comparing Trump to Hitler, have we?

That would be what I would call - correct.

At last. Well done.

jambalaya - Member
China is a currency manipulator. They hold their currency down hugely in value, more than 50% ?

President Donald Trump publicly reneged Wednesday on a pledge he delivered with consistency throughout his presidential campaign -- his promise to label China a currency manipulator.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the president said the decision came in consideration of talks with China over its role in countering North Korean weapons testing. Trump said that any move to attach the designation could hamper China-U.S. relations. He claimed that, in recent months, China's currency manipulation has halted.

Trump regularly insisted he would confront China over currency manipulation throughout his presidential campaign, ranging back to 2015. The action to "direct the Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator" is still listed as part of "Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter" on his campaign website.

Wherever the MOAB was used I hope it didn't kill any civilians otherwise someone's got to bomb a US airfield.

"comparing Trump to Hitler"

Yeah, the big winner over the last few months has been Hitler's public image. Who knew the Historians have got it so wrong and Hitler was actually not much worse than an unpopular leader of a Liberal Democracy...

Syria last week, Afghanistan this week, NK this weekend? Seal Team 6 in SK apparently. From a blog I follow somebody cannot contact 3 members of his family who are serving US military in SK. The last major exercise between SK/US military was a decapitation strike. China massing 10K's troops on the NK border.

Tin foil hat time?

"Wherever the MOAB was used I hope it didn't kill any civilians otherwise someone's got to bomb a US airfield."

🙂

Am I alone in thinking it was fired into an empty valley? Using the MOAB maximises publicity but you'd have to assume it must be militarily useless in this situation otherwise it would have been used many time before over the last 20 odd years.

Am I alone in thinking it was fired into an empty valley? Using the MOAB maximises publicity but you'd have to assume it must be militarily useless in this situation otherwise it would have been used many time before over the last 20 odd years.

Probably coming up to its use by date....

MOAB's are not cheap and usually better results (apparently from what I've been reading on the ever truthful internet) can be obtained by carpet bombing but cave systems and canyons tend to concentrate the MOAB's blast.

It is however, a good demonstration weapon.

the MOAB is described as being for a very specific purpose (IE getting into places like natural caves) Buildings you can assess and look for weak spots caves and tunnels you can't see

unbelievably, there's an even bigger one with the suitably porno name of

Massive Ordnance Penetrator or something (overcompensating much 😆 )

Anyway, here's a picture of one being used

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MOP is a true bunker buster, they've only about 12 of them so pointless in a real war but say you wanted to take out somebody tin pot dictatorships hardened deep under ground nuclear facilities........

Wherever the MOAB was used I hope it didn't kill any civilians otherwise someone's got to bomb a US airfield.

It's fine to kill BEAUTIFUL BABIES with conventional weapons.

Won't somebody think of the ugly babies! 🙁

"It's fine to kill BEAUTIFUL BABIES with conventional weapons."

A rather chilling thought is that to gain the right publicity out of this the "Taliban" [1] now have to kill some innocent civilians and scatter their bodies around the site...

I hope they don't.

[1] Not sure they really exist in the terms our media discuss them.

A $16 million bomb and a whole 36 Isis millitants killed

Tiny hands must be pleased, no one is talking about his collision with Russia pre election now

Oh I dunno...this shit isn't even funny anymore...but...

9000!!!!!