you and I appear to be somewhat in the minority.
People signing this petition will very much be in the minority as well. Happy to be one of them. Small actions can add up. Eventually. Hopefully.
^ These simple facts should clear up most of the objections and misunderstandings.
That's been working well for us of late.
Presumably you’re also against killing animals and turning them into burgers?
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Extremes
I know that deliberately misunderstanding what was said and trying to sound intellectual by linking to 'clever' but mostly misused terms is very popular on this forum but I'm going to explain this one.
You commented that people in Britain have absolutely no business trying to change things which are culturally normal in other countries. Using body parts from endangered species is culturally normal and accepted in many parts of the world.
Also, farming livestock for meat is in no way comparable to illegally killing migrating songbirds for fun.
it's not like we need another reason to boycott them, the fact that their kit is shite compared to SRAM/Hope is enough 😂Shimano is a major manufacturer of fishing gear.
far greater crimes in the frozen food isle in supermarkets,
yes meat free chicken nuggets etc
You commented that people in Britain have absolutely no business trying to change things which are culturally normal in other countries.
No I didn't. Or at least, if I did inadvertently then I later qualified that that wasn't actually what I meant.
You cannot hold different cultures to our own cultural standards. You just can't. The US would be appalled at 18-year olds over here drinking beer. However, as I said before, if their customs and practices are objectively wrong then we absolutely should be trying to exact change.
Also, farming livestock for meat is in no way comparable to [s]il[/s]legally killing migrating songbirds for fun.
FTFY
They're both legal. Morally, totally at odds with each other unless you are a vegan in which case it may amount to the same thing.
See that thing about perspective Cougar is trying to convey? Take a step back and see it through someone elses eyes.
On the plus side at least we now know who killed Cock Robin.
If you walk into a Decathlon in France there will be a huge section with hunting gear including every variety of shotgun cartridge, plus ammunition for hunting rifles. You can also buy live fish for live baiting pike etc.
It all seems popular with the locals, if this petition gets traction in France (which I doubt) they will probably just amend the description and keep selling the shotgun cartridges.
Surley raising concerns on their social media would be more effective than a petition which would get brushed under the carpet
^ The petition and concern has been spreading through social media. Decathlon UK have been responding positively.
https://twitter.com/DecathlonUK/status/1283694318700699649
On a related note to hopefully lighten the mood of doom, negativity, naysaying etc... we had some good news last autumn regarding curlews 🙂
For three weeks during August 2019 it was subsequently legal to shoot them there, until the government reversed its decision in the face of pressure from WWT and our conservation partners
I’d strongly encourage anyone who cares even slightly about wildlife conservation to join a group and keep abreast of the issues. It seems like a losing battle a lot of the time but keeping up the pressure (on all fronts) is always better than doing nothing at all.
Some good news there Malvern Rider.
I wonder if anything will ever be done about hunters blasting migratory birds out of the sky over Malta.
When I first got into the mountain biking world I naively thought that everyone else was into wildlife stuff. Weird I know 😀
👍 a (tiny) step forward
Is WWT a French organisation? If not, what business is it of theirs, campaigning to stop curlews being hunted in France… etc.
Malta absolutely will be the most difficult country to increase protection for migratory birds in tewit… uphill battle there, to put it mildly.
I'm a meat eater. I have no interest in eating songbirds and can't see any other reason for wanting to kill them. Unless you are braindead.
I’m a meat eater. I have no interest in eating songbirds and can’t see any other reason for wanting to kill them. Unless you are braindead.
Cheers slowoldman, saved me writing that.
Wait until you hear about how many baby animals are killed by the companies you pay to fill your car with petrol.
^ What does that even mean, both in tone, content and in context? Am genuinely mystified. And ‘baby animals’?
Wait until you hear about how many baby animals are killed by the companies you pay to fill your car with petrol.
My car is diesel and I fill it myself, so ha, take that!!!
Good response there from Decathlon, I sit corrected.
I’m a meat eater. I have no interest in eating songbirds
Why not?
Assuming they're a sustainable resource, what's the difference between eating duck or chicken and eating thrush? What if it turns out they're really tasty?
Sing a song sixpence, a pocketful of rye.
Wait until you hear about how many baby animals are killed by the companies you pay to fill your car with petrol.
I used to indirectly work for Aramco.
So to make myself feel better I'm going to call you racist for refering to the people of Yemen* as Animals.
*other proxy wars and conspiracy theories of state sponsored terrorism are available.
Just to ask a different question, were or are Decathlon licensed to sell shotgun cartridges in the UK?
Assuming they’re a sustainable resource, what’s the difference between eating duck or chicken and eating thrush? What if it turns out they’re really tasty?
Because there's bugger all meat on them probably. Same reason we tend not to eat sparrows or rats, they tend to be last resort catches. Even a pigeon isn't worth much and that's a delicacy.
*How long before ‘make an appeal’ is also defined as a ‘application of intolerant force‘? We seem to be eroding everyday language (and understanding) to black vs white tabloid levels.
Judging by America, not very long.
Assuming they’re a sustainable resource, what’s the difference between eating duck or chicken and eating thrush? What if it turns out they’re really tasty?
Pay attention at the back! It’s been clearly pointed out that songbird numbers, and migratory bird populations generally, have crashed dramatically over the last few decades, mainly through habitat loss, but also through actions like those in Malta, where it’s deemed to be part of their macho, masculine culture to go out with shotgun and slaughter tiny birds in vast numbers. The birds are eaten, but the amount of effort required makes it only worth while if large numbers are cooked.
This is clearly unsustainable, some species are close to extinction. How many here have ever heard a cuckoo? I haven’t heard one for several decades, swift, swallow and house and sand Martin numbers are significantly reduced from what I remember.
They may be tasty, but only with lots of extra flavouring, because there’s bugger-all flesh on a bird that weighs grams - and they’re likely to taste like chicken.
It’s worth breeding chickens and ducks, there’s loads of meat on them, not so much on a finch.
So to make myself feel better I’m going to call you racist for refering to the people of Yemen* as Animals.
Seems reasonable!
How many here have ever heard a cuckoo? I haven’t heard one for several decades
Me, I've heard a few this year and last.
How many here have ever heard a cuckoo? I haven’t heard one for several decades
Get yourself down Goyt Valley of an evening you'll hear-em. Open your car's window you don't even have to get out!
Assuming they’re a sustainable resource
This is clearly unsustainable
You missed a fundamental component of my question there.
I still hear cuckoos from time to time in Worcs and Herefs.
I’m also keen to illustrate that my hearing a cuckoo is in no way indicative of the cuckoo population.
Once part of the soundtrack of an English summer, the call of the Cuckoo is now a fading memory for many. We have lost over three-quarters of the UK Cuckoo population since the 1980s yet know little of the reasons why. Yet more intriguingly, changes in Cuckoo numbers vary dramatically across the UK; in England, the Breeding Bird Survey organised by the British Trust for Ornithology has documented a 70% decline since 1995, whilst the Scottish population has increased by 30%
Common cuckoo population is an effective indicator for the richness of other bird-species (bioindicator of hotspots)