[Closed] appetite suppressants.

speed?

Willpower

Fags?

Didn't dexaprine kill that marathon runner a while ago?! It has to be willpower really, you have to want to not be a fatty 🙂

Take a picture of yourself naked, stick it in your wallet. Every time you want a biscuit, open your wallet and take a look. It'll make you feel sick, then you won't want the biscuit 🙂

'Everybody is always commenting on how bad cigarettes are for your health, but they never mention how good they are for weight loss,'
said a friend who gave up smoking and got fat. 😆

will power just doesnt work unfortunately.

Unless you're intending on taking appetite suppressants for the rest of your life it's going to have to work at some point. Even if you get back down to a weight you're happy with, come off of the suppressants and go back to eating the same way you'll end up in the same position as you are now.

willpower just doesnt work unfortunately

Willpower is the only thing that does work. Anything else you are just looking for an excuse to continue.

it allowed me to go most of the day on 2 meals.

MTFU and take control yourself.

willpower just doesnt work unfortunately

It does, you just don't have any. Man up and stop looking for the easy way out

Man up and stop looking for the easy way out

THIS

Proteins leave you feeling fuller for longer. Water fills you up too but what goes in must come out so more frequent trips to the loo.

Eat three meals a day and a few healthy snacks (nuts, seeds and fruit) in between if hungary. Skipping meals doesn't work

2 meals a day is not healthy.

Little an often does work - with the added bonus of not making you post meal lethargic and keeping you always full.

Eating clean little and often lets you break that habit of stuffingyour face with biscuits as eating clean little and often you have to be eating quite often as the fibre that often bulks out a clean diet is bulky and not calorie dense 😀

that said i once lost a stone eating marsbars and drinking coke for a month.....- because thats not healthy either, but it was better than the other option - trust me on that :d

Appetite supressants? I never even knew such a thing existed (unless you class chocolate as one?).

I'd have thought the last thing you want to be doing is shoving stuff inside your body to trick it into thinking you're not actually hungry???

willpower just doesnt work unfortunately

Easy answer - dont buy the biscuit's and crap in the first place. No temptation then also saves you money.

3 Tips at no cost:

Dont buy any processed foods

Eat little and often - right foods

Exercise

Remember, you cant eat yourself it

Donuts.....half a dozen and I lose all interest in eating for a couple of hours.

Skipping meals doesn't work

2 meals a day is not healthy.

Remember, you cant eat yourself it

a number of reasons but namely your slowing your metabolism.

If we are playing anecdotes

eating clean and often combined with exercise ive dropped 16lbs this month.

the key to it is not stuffing your self at every opportunity but to graze on quality foods.

And on contrary to pawsybear ive always maintained the key to good performance begins in the kitchen.

this changes if you just want to be sedantary "thin" though - although remember the number on the scale being low doesnt mean your healthy/fit.

eating clean and often combined with exercise ive dropped 16lbs this month.

What has worked for me. Excersize before/during lunch. Drink lots of water before meal times. I get "jittery" too and its best to have some snacks, nits (not covered in stuff), fruit (apples) or vegetables (carrots) to nibble on.

Aside from the normal eat less / move more advice I would add try and eat the minimum (ideally zero) pre-prepared foods/"meals"

Good luck.

More sleep aids weight loss.

its not how heavy i was its how sedentary i was before....- and thats being honest with my self - not kidding my self that 6 miles bimbling round some lanes is a ride.

i spent a 18months doing a stoner building a land rover and not eating healthy - often skipping meals because i wasnt "hungry" or exercising - i gained 2st

so i started eating healthy, often and moving more ..... the weight dropped off because of that + the regain in muscle mass has upped my metabolism so im losing the weight even quicker now.....

So no one with any information on what im after then?

im just needing to get back into the healthy eating which means cutting out the crap which i find very difficult. Once im on the healthy route its fine but its getting on it i cant do.

Been there before all that.

2 meals a day is not healthy.

All my adult life has been spent eating one meal a day unless I have a long and very active day ahead and then it's just a snack in the afternoon - possibly fruit. I've weighed between 9 and 15 stone, with the difference being food type and portion size. (Edit : And activity, obviously)

Changing the way you think about food is key to weight loss. Enjoy shrinking your stomach or at least accept it'll hurt for a while and marvel at the small amounts of food it takes to make you feel you've eaten enough.

"im just needing to get back into the healthy eating which means cutting out the crap which i find very difficult. Once im on the healthy route its fine but its getting on it i cant do."

Seriously - who does the shopping ? - write a list and stick to it - as above - if you dont buy the shite you cant eat it.

Use Myfitnesspal - the act of having to log something and the effect on your total makes you think about if you really need to eat it - but it also highlights if your eating to much or to little.

Dont get hung up if you find your self needing a sweet treat now and again - i still enjoy a bar of chocolate now and again.

make your lunch for work the night before and take a stock of apples/pears/bananas or any other easy to eat hand fruit - dont take any cash with you - thus you cant use the vending machines.

On the whole as a population we consume far too much - ive said it before and been ridiculed but we could achieve a lot just by buying smaller crockery.

The only chemical supplements (legal) that I've seen any positive evidence for are 5HTP and HCA, do your own googling, read up and make your choice.
Personally I'd go for a double dose of MTFU - cut the crap and hit the gym

ive said it before and been ridiculed but we could achieve a lot just by buying smaller crockery.

Just take a look at the contents of a Greggs pie or pastie or meat slice, Shirley that's an appetite suppressant right there.

we could achieve a lot just by buying smaller crockery.

Eat more protein and less carbs. If you have sh!t willpower put biscuits out of reach.

I have a snack box of the following a day for my desk at work.

Carrot sticks
Cut up pepper
Broccoli (Raw, yes, its fine)
Radish
Blueberries (or sometomes raspberries or strawberries)

Nibble at that through the day. Plus make sure you're drinking enough water. Sometimes that hunger is thirst as mad as it sounds.

A standard day for me is;

Breakfast is a protein shake of;
Spinach
Blueberries
Protein Powder (Whey)
Nuts
Coconut Water

If its a gym day or a day I am riding hard after work (I cycle commute everyday) I will put a portion of porddige oats in

Snack (As above) with an apple and banana too.

Lunch

Salad ranging from chicken to feta to ham

Tea

A decent meal with fresh veg!

I have one cup of tea a day and then have green tea. At the weekend I will have a couple of cups of decent coffee.

Just be sensible. An appetite suppressant because you're eating too many biscuits aint gonna help.

have some snacks, nits (not covered in stuff), fruit (apples) or vegetables (carrots) to nibble on.

Greggs... that's an appetite suppressant right there.

🙂

For me just a whiff of the place from a distance is enough...

Small rant- not got much time at the moment;

1. Will power is everything- dieting/a diet is a lifestyle, not a short term win. You'll find that as soon as you stop the suppressants/fasting/starving/torture you'll pile on the pounds. You put your body into starvation mode and as soon as food becomes available it stores it in case you starve again.

2. Drink more water- you'll be surprised how much it fills you up. It's also great for your skin and health in general.

3. Lay off anything processed and refined- any processed white carbs and anything that's gone through a factory .

4. Portion control- you know that big plate that the Mrs has? Flip it upside down. Your portion should only be as big as the little circle that rests on the table. This in turn will make you eat more often.

5. Move more- weight loss is aided hugely by exercise. It increases heart rate and metabolism.

6. Sleep more- again very important. Your body recovers during sleep, among other things.

7. Little and often- yes, you can eat 1 meal a day and lose weight, but all you're doing is starving yourself (see point 1). It also aids metabolism keeping yourself constantly stocked.

8. Eat more green stuff (and fruit/veg)- You know that huge pile of mash and 2 salad leaves? Swap it over. Eat lots of green stuff. It’s guilt free, fills you up and contains important vitamins and minerals.

9. Use apps- I’ve had clients/friends/family get great results using apps. It helps you monitor your consumption and exercise. You’ll probably frighten yourself with home many calories/fats/carbs certain foods contains (biscuits, smoothies, ice cream, sorbet).

10. WILL POWER- you need this. I can’t emphasise this enough. You can out eat any suppressants. The ‘speed’ stuff contains disgusting amounts of caffeine. This will impact your sleep, digestive system and you’ll just be dossing up and up when it starts to wear off. It’s a drug. Drugs are bad, m’kay?
I’ve got a million and one other bits of advice and hundreds of hints & tips that could help you, but it will be useless if you don’t have the will power and are relying on drugs.

Also, ‘Remember, you cant eat yourself fit’- you really really can. Those ripped guys on the cover of Mens Health look like that primarily because of diet. It’s 70% diet and 30% exercise. It’s impossible to out exercise a bad diet.

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Some visuals of the advice given on here.....

and a light bit of reading.

https://recipeland.com/news/adults-eat-almost-everything-th-605

I'll offer up Sushi.

No, not throw up Sushi 🙄

Have you tried it? It has all the nutrients you need, and the portions too (I'm thinking ITSU here), so it kinda takes out all the "thinking" about food and what to put together..

And don't be tempted to shuv it in the microwave to warm it up either.. 😆

It's ok to be hungry. You probably won't die.

It takes a while for your brain to get the message that it's sated - something like 30 mins IIRC - so if you eat till you're full you're eating too much. Eat less, and wait half an hour before seeing if you still need to eat the rest of what you'd normally have eaten.

Find something else to do with your hands that isn't sticking things in your mouth. Detail left as an exercise for the reader.

No such thing as a safe effective appetite suppressant, there is a reason why you have to get them off mates, or from rather dodgy Docs in the private sector.

You need to alter your relationship with food, and stop looking for quick fixes, as they don't last.

If I locked you in a room with 1200 kCal a day and an exercise bike, you'd lose weight.

Unless you ate the bike.

lol

thing is i ate at lunch (1pm) since then ive had a bottle of diet coke, half a liter of coffee a few biscuits a bottle of water and its only an hour and a bit since i ate.

im keeping busy but consistently hungry.

PUT DOWN THE BISCUITS. FFS.

Have a banana, apple, carrot, pear, salad bowl or *insert other fruit/veg*.

Why are buying biscuits and then complaining about your weight? What is so wrong with a healthy substitute?

Starting to think this is a troll.

Diet Coke? I wonder why you never see thin people drink diet coke?

Try the apple mind game. If you're hungry, eat an apple. Don't fancy the apple? Then you're not hungry.

Just MTFU and stop eating biscuits, FFS.

My neighbor is a ex military trainer.
For new recruits he allows them to eat as much as they wanted of the following foods.

Chicken
Cheese
Bread
Apples.

On day one - you can eat as much chicken as you want - nothing else.
On day two - you can eat as much cheese as you want - nothing else.
On day three - etc...

And repeat.

but consistently hungry

Try the apple mind game. If you're hungry, eat an apple.

im keeping busy but consistently [s]hungry[/s] weak

Apples ?

Yuk.

I'm not a huge fan of fruit in general. For some reason I get indigestion so haev really steered clear of it for the last 3-4 years. It's a very rare occason I eat it.
Although I had a few grapes on Sunday.

im keeping busy but consistently hungry.

So what? See my previous post; it's hunger, not a heart attack. Nothing will happen to you if you ignore it.

But if you keep feeding it biscuits whenever it shouts, it'll keep expecting biscuits and round and round you go, getting bigger and greedier all the while with your appetite like a child who's worked out that throwing a tantrum gets it its own way.

This thread is making me hungry.

This is a troll

Half a Litre of coffee and a bottle of diet coke. GTFO.

You know what you really want? Oero Pizza! Should keep you full for another hour.
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Don't take any appetite suppressants , I used epidril (I think that was its name long time ago ) when tying to get cut early 90s , shakes heart palpitations , couldn't sleep , lost fat like you wouldn't belive but felling like I was going to have a heart attack not good .
Go onto nutrition facts.org web and u tube look at some actual science ,the best way is to find a way of eating that you can sustain for the rest of your life , do not gamble with your life taking appetite supresants or fat burners people do die taking this sh*t

What sort of biscuits are we talking about here? Bad ones, or really bad ones?

[i] jambalaya - Member
have some snacks, nits (not covered in stuff)[/i]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, coated nits, nom, nom!

[i] Cougar - Moderator
so if you eat till you're full you're eating too much[/i]
Not really, the "full" response is the physiological mechanism to stop feeding and thus will always be the most effective control as that's how people evolved to function.

Perhaps those being Vegan, Vegetarian, fruitarian, etc. Might consider/declare their choices while recommending certain behaviours.

Ohh, you're in luck! If you order a Pizza from Dominos you can even get the Oero Pizza delivered. How about that! May as well get garlic bread too. Mmmmm..

[i] cokie - Member
PUT DOWN THE BISCUITS. FFS.[/i]

And Breath.

[i] Starting to think this is a troll.[/i]

Yeap, me too.

Do they do it with a stuffed crust?

Perhaps those being Vegan, Vegetarian, fruitarian, etc. Might consider/declare their choices while recommending certain behaviours.

Other than the fact you're a monumental troll, why's that then?

"so if you eat till you're full you're eating too much
Not really, the "full" response is the physiological mechanism to stop feeding and thus will always be the most effective control as that's how people evolved to function"

full is not a response. its a state of mind.

if i ate till i got a full response every meal - i could eat and eat and eat... id probably be the kind of guy that would manage man vs food challenge...

how ever i recognise that regardless of evolution - thats not a healthy way to exist- how ever looking around it seems that not everyone accepts that.

What is this full response that people speak of? Does it change if you stretch your stomach by eating ridiculous amounts of food? Is there a difference between full and stuffed to bursting?

yeah troll, you got me..... sorry im not as saintly as some of you lot.

To the other folks at least they are offering some discussion / help. thanks for that.

yes half a liter of coffee. my flask holds 500ml of filter coffee, i drink about 9 of these a day.

We've given you plenty of great advice and sound suggestions. Your response to this is that you just ate more biscuits and you've ignored all of the advice. How about engaging with the information that's been given to you.

jambalaya - Member
have some snacks, nits (not covered in stuff)

like dandruff?

yes half a liter of coffee. my flask holds 500ml of filter coffee, i drink about 9 of these a day.

Blimey! That's getting on 15 cups of coffee a day!

is that not good?

You drink 4.5l of coffee a day? Does it contain sugar? I hope not because on coffee alone thats just mental.

I would see a doctor then a funeral director and try and get an early discount.

That's a hell of a lot of Coffee. I'm surprised your not ill/dead/skinny if you drink that much.

Do you have milk and sugar in your coffee?

sensible levels of caffeine: about three mugs of filter coffee per day - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15982904

(that's if you don't drink any coke or eat any chocolate)

[i] Cougar - Moderator

Other than the fact you're a monumental troll, why's that then? [/i]

So, it's like that. Forgive me if I don't stoop to join you on that one. Stay classy.

[i] trail_rat - Member

full is not a response. its a state of mind. [/i]

There is an endocrine mechanism in place that produces a sensation/physical response that most people commonly describe as feeling "full".
Of course, that isn't literally full to the point of bursting, but that's the point where the body currently has enough to be dealing with. At that point a hormonal response elicits the feeling/state of mind commonly described as " feeling full".

Of course this system can be compromised/corrupted by poor diet.
Example? there have been posts earlier in the thread (not by me), suggesting that protein seems to make them feel full/satiated, for a longer duration between meals. This isn't just anecdotal, protein takes longer to break down in the intestine, than fat or refined carbs. So, what you see is that food choices influence when our satiety/hunger mechanism/signal kicks in and for how long that feeling will last.

Eat food that is quickly and easily digestible and you're likely to feel hungry again sooner than you would if your body was digesting something that took a greater duration of time to completely digest.

Therefore, whether you eat protein (especially that sourced from animals), fat, refined carbs, or any combination thereof. Those food choices will influence your perception of when satiety is reached, etc.

So, select the correct foods and your body should respond accordingly.

Or you can just call me names.

[i]how ever looking around it seems that not everyone accepts that. [/i]
No problem with genuine disagreement.

No sugar. But milk.

I have an espresso in the morning followed by 3 flasks of filter coffee. The rest is instant.

I do think I need to cut down a little tho as I can get headaches at weekends

What you are experiencing sounds like simple gluttony. You just put to much in your mouth.

I find it handy to have lots of healthy food about. I'll starve rather than eat that crap!

So, it's like that. Forgive me if I don't stoop to join you on that one.

On reflection, that was uncalled for. Apologies, I'm having a bad day.

Well according to [url= https://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories/calories_in_drinks/calories_in_coffee_semi_skimmed_milk ]this[/url] there are 15 calories per hundred ml of milky coffee. That's 675 calories just on coffee.

my flask holds 500ml of filter coffee, i drink about 9 of these a day.

Switch to decaf. Erm, and do it gradually! You might find that getting some sleep helps with controlling your weight.

Not reading all this, but:

No sugar. Sugar messes with your appetite really badly, and according to the bloke on telly the other day, interferes with the body's fat regulation system. I can well believe that.

Caffeine

Flax oil (try it)

Almost 8 pints of coffee 😆 Get on man

So an hour after lunch you had 500ml of coffee, a bottle of coke, sorry, diet coke (300ml?) AND a bottle of water?

So you are now saying, you're drinking circa 6.5l of fluids a day AND you're still hungry?

Dude, see a doctor, you need a band

Molgrips, I really don't think the OP needs more caffeine 🙂

Not reading all this, but:

No sugar. Sugar messes with your appetite really badly, and according to the bloke on telly the other day, interferes with the body's fat regulation system. I can well believe that.

[b]Caffeine[/b]

Flax oil (try it)

Sometimes, reading the thread helps...