[Closed] Anyone for another religion thread?

Shouldnt the title of this thread have been " Lets see how far up our own arses we can get while spouting utter bollocks "..
Seems more appropriate to me .. 😯

"Athiests spout bollocks" might've got me flamed even more 🙂

Shouldnt the title of this thread have been " Lets see how far up our own arses we can get while spouting utter bollocks "..
Seems more appropriate to me ..

In complete contrast to your valuable and insightful contribution to the discussion.

Oh ..its a discussion is it !?
Well hush my mouth

In complete contrast to your valuable and insightful contribution to the discussion.

To be fair to him, he is making a judgement based on something he has some insight into, which is way ahead of most posters on this thread.

There is good in religion

that's not religion, its people.

But when it's bad things, that's religion right?

Okaaayy 🙄

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There is good in religion

that's not religion, its people.

But when it's bad things, that's religion right?

Okaaayy

I clearly never said or insinuated that - there have been plenty of people that were bad without religion's help

belief is the abandonment of reason

Cougar uses "organised religion" rather than just "religion", and important distinction I'll adopt from here in. My comments on this thread refer to "organised religion" and more to the point religion imposed on others by whatever means; social pressure, community pressure, fear off hordes with pitchforks, fear of being accused of witchcraft, fear of not getting work.

I've walked to Compostelle a couple of times. The first time I was astonished by the number of young Spanish people on ther last 100km, until someone explained to me that a Compostella greatly improves one's chance of employment in Spain, especially as a civil servant.

Idividuals walking to compostelle for spiritual reasons I see as positive, doing it as a prerequisit for getting a job as negative, it's an example of the church's hold on society.

Only a minority of Christians do. We've got the Pope telling us that evolution and the big bang are real

Well sort of. For evolution what he said was it wasnt incompatible with the notion of creation.
The RC (and several other churches) tend to be a bit vague on the details. Whilst they dont tend to argue against the overwhelming evidence nowadays it is somewhat inaccurate saying they accept evolution as opposed to theistic evolution where god gets to intervene in vague ways.
For example the RC position on Adam and Eve is as master class in dodging the awkward questions.

On a related note, has anyone had any interactions with members of the Plymouth Brethren? I saw the apologist John Lennox once, then read a few books by his mentor, David Gooding.
It took me a while to realise just how conservative they are. I've since learnt they are both members of the open brethren, but John Lennox keeps it very quiet and prefers to push his academic credentials.

@Mrwoppits, I'm not offended at all.. the ancient scriptures to a non-believer are gibberish, the hidden meaning can only be unlocked with faith

You simply cannot apply the laws of man to faith, that's how simple it really is. If you have no faith, non comprenday for you :o)
I have some printed copies of pre-translated text and I sometimes sit under my favourite tree in the middle of the night, close my eyes and read a language I have not learnt. All my senses at one guided by faith unlocking the door to the special place

Faith - the purposeful suspension of critical thinking

You simply can't apply the laws of faith to truth/facts.

read a language I have not learnt.

I'm interested to know to which language you refer, and if or not a native speaker of said language would be able to verify your translation, give or take?

I'm an atheist, but not in the egocentric evangelical sense

I have some printed copies of pre-translated text and I sometimes sit under my favourite tree in the middle of the night, close my eyes and read a language I have not learnt. All my senses at one guided by faith unlocking the door to the special place

Faith allows you to understand Biblical Hebrew and Aramaic? I don't believe you.

You simply cannot apply the laws of man to faith, that's how simple it really is. I

And therein lies the proof that religion is a man made construct. Only man has the ego to assume that any kind of all powerful being would be arsed to write a book / books for us in a language we can understand, even worse, create us in its own image. It takes a species as self centric as ours to form religions in the first place.

any kind of all powerful being would be arsed to write a book / books for us

I don't think anyone ever asserted this, even in the 5th Century, Ten Commandments aside. The texts were written by men, 'guided' by god.

I see having faith as a mental condition / personality disorder. Nothing wrong with that (I have my own personality disorder) but people need to see it as it is and understand it from that angle.

OK, so what kind of all powerful being would be arsed to dictate to somebody? Which actually seems more implausible to me. It would be akin to you or I speaking to a dust mite.

Edit - and why has said being not written any sequels? Surely it realises some updates are needed to its teachings. I'd be up for transcribing

I have some printed copies of pre-translated text and I sometimes sit under my favourite tree in the middle of the night, close my eyes and read a language I have not learnt. All my senses at one guided by faith unlocking the door to the special place

Hahahah.

All my senses at one guided by faith unlocking the door to the special place

Also, this is what most people do to their wives/girlfriends/mistresses. I was about to make a "your mom" joke but decided better of it.

This thread is starting to read like a fantasy novel for twelve-year olds.

Appropriate then?

Still no sticky. Boo, hiss. And this is a corker

^^ there have been no mention of boobs yet Edukator. Or, for that matter, which deity would win in a fight. 😉

Your moms boobs are god.

There.

I win thread.

Your mums got a fanny only a god could fill lol

Romans, Greeks and the Norse gods Odin, Thor, Zeus etc. they had their place at the time and the death of those civilisations ended them.

Clearly you haven't grasped American Gods. In fact, I reckon one or two of those gods in your pic appeared much later in that weird 70s book The Joy Of Love.

Godly power is a simple matter of belief...

But being a bit more serious and a genuine question to the believers - is eternal life* a part of your belief and if so, would you buy into it if that wasn't on the table?

Not as flippant as it reads; I have a genuine interest in the psychology and persistence of belief in the gods/God of any religion.

*By that I mean reincarnation, heaven, hell, the new system. Anything you like!

Only man has the ego to assume that any kind of all powerful being would be arsed to write a book / books for us

OK, so what kind of all powerful being would be arsed to dictate

Sorry to be so blunt. But you really don't have a ****ing clue what you are arguing against do you ?

Still no sticky. Boo, hiss.

Back under your bridge THM, that's the second time you've tried to get a rise. Take part in the discussion or bugger off.

but people need to see it as it is and understand it from that angle

Why? Who says?

OK, so what kind of all powerful being would be arsed to dictate to somebody? Which actually seems more implausible to me. It would be akin to you or I speaking to a dust mite.

Even I know the answer to that one. It's because God created us as a special project, and he loves us. That's why. Humans talk to inferior animals all the time.

Back under your bridge THM, that's the second time you've tried to get a rise. Take part in the discussion or bugger off

Stay classy and keep up the standards 😯

It was never direct communication anyway:-

[i]We see through a glass, darkly...[/i]

Your moms classy.

Sorry to be so blunt. But you really don't have a **** clue what you are arguing against do you ?

No need to apologise. Are some religious texts not deemed to be the word of God? I'm not actually arguing either. More ribbing the guy who can translate texts through the power of faith. Like the world's shitiest x-man

I think God has lost interest in his "special project" and let it go to ruin. He never was very interventionist and for the last 1981 years has given up on the place.

the world's shitiest x-man

Okay, I just choked on that one. Enough already - he's an obvious troll with that shit, no...?

I think God has lost interest in his "special project" and let it go to ruin. He never was very interventionist and for the last 1981 years has given up on the place.

You misotheist, you. A man after my own heart, that takes a special kind of crazy.

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God has lost interest in his "special project" and let it go to ruin

All through this thread I keep hearing this track running along nicely...

[i]God didn't build himself that throne
God doesn't live in Israel or Rome
God belong to the yankee dollar
God doesn't plant the bombs for Hezbollah
God doesn't even go to church
And God won't send us down to Allah to burn
No, God will remind us what we already know
That the human race is about to reap what it's sown[/i]

That the human race is about to reap what it's sown

Humans are ****s. The universe is a ****. And god made us in his image.

Therefore - God = a ****.

More ribbing the guy who can translate texts through the power of faith.

I don't think he was claiming to understand the text, was he? Just reading it.

Just like I can sing Nessun Dorma without any clue as to what it means but still enjoy it. It would sound crap translated.

Nessun Dorma is beautiful because it sounds good mathematically and because the person who sang it best, put shivers down peoples spine no matter what he was singing.

There's also such a thing as beautiful cadence and sound even in spoken speech. Have you never heard anyone comment on the beautiful sound of a language they don't understand?

Faith allows you to understand Biblical Hebrew and Aramaic? I don't believe you.

I am pretty sure Poes law is at work here

Just like I can sing Nessun Dorma without any clue as to what it means but still enjoy it. It would sound crap translated.

[i]"I have no idea to this day what those two Italian ladies were singing about..."[/i]

🙂

I don't think he was claiming to understand the text, was he?