Privateer Bikes finally launch Gen 2 range and pre-sales

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After three years of development, 500,000m of descent, an Ard Rock triumph, plenty of rumours, and a few spy photos, Privateer finally introduces the Gen 2 range.

Here’s the typically thorough and useful PR info straight from Privateer…

What matters to the privateer: Geometry, Kinematics, Durability & Serviceability

• A-L-P Suspension
• Forward thinking geometry
• Size-specific chainstays
• Adjustable rear centre
• MX (mixed wheel) or 29in wheels on all sizes.
• Available as framesets or complete bikes.

After 3 years of development, 500,000m of descent, an Ard Rock win, plenty of rumours, and a few spy photos, we’re pleased to finally introduce the Gen 2 range of Privateer Bikes.

Designed from the ground up to charge hard and go big, the Gen 2 range boasts our newly developed A-L-P Suspension platform, features rear center and mixed wheel flip chips, our forward-thinking balanced geometry, plus we’ve boosted durability with oversized bearings.

Developed with input from Privateer riders Joe Connell, Katy Curd and Fergus Ryan, Gen 2 is all about confidence and predictability because if you’re feeling confident, you’ll ride harder and go bigger!

A-L-P Suspension

Aligned Linear Progression Suspension

• Sensitive and supple at the start of the stroke.
• Coil like feel even with an air shock.
• Great pedal support across all gears.
• Stable under braking.
• Plenty of bottom-out resistance for riding hard in all situations.
• Linear response for predictability and confidence.

As the development of Gen 2 kicked off, so did the discussion around adopting a new suspension platform. At the time, we saw a lot of interest in high-pivot, mid-pivot and 6-bar suspension designs. We evaluated each based on what we felt riders wanted from Gen 2 and came to the conclusion that an evolution of the Horst link platform offers the characteristics that we were after. While alternate platforms all have their benefits, Horst link offers highly customisable anti-rise and anti-squat values, enabling us to develop our highest performing kinematics and a consistent and predictable ride. Predictability is key! If you know exactly what to expect from your bike, you’ll feel confident, and if you feel confident, you’ll ride harder and faster.

Gen 2 bikes each feature the A-L-P Suspension (Aligned Linear Progression) platform, a system that has been designed to be super predictable and easy to ride hard.

When designing the suspension of Gen 2, we looked at 3 key areas, how they affect the ride of the bike and how we could design them to offer the predictability that we are after.

• Leverage Ratio: A-L-P Suspension offers a low force at the back wheel (a high leverage ratio) at the start of travel. This means it delivers excellent grip at the beginning of the stroke, and less force is transmitted to the rider, minimising fatigue while you’re charging hard on trails. The high leverage ratio at the start also easily overcomes stiction in the shock seals for a coil-like feel even with an air shock. We’ve aimed for a leverage rate as linearly progressive as possible to offer predictability. The progression at the end of the stroke provides plenty of bottom out resistance, so when you’re charging hard on unfamiliar trails, the bike will be able to take whatever you throw at it.

• Anti Rise: We wanted Gen 2 bikes to offer a balance of chassis stability and braking traction so you know you can brake late with confidence. We also wanted A-L-P Suspension to behave consistently no matter where it is in the travel, so again, it builds confidence to ride hard, and you can focus on enjoying the terrain.

• Anti Squat: The A-L-P Suspension platform provides a great balance of pedaling support and traction in all gears so you can always get the power down efficiently. As you get into harder gears, the anti-squat increases, so when you’re out of the saddle sprinting, you get the additional pedal support that you need. And again, that consistent anti-squat throughout the travel gives you that predictability that we’re all after to ride as fast as we can!

• Custom-Tuned Fox Suspension: Working closely with Fox, all Gen 2 bikes and framesets use a custom-tuned shock to get the best performance from our A-L-P Suspension platform.

Balanced Geometry

• Size-Specific chain stays
• Adjustable rear centre
• Flip-chip to enable MX (29/27.5) configuration
• Steep seat tube angle
• Full insertion seat tube

With our approach to confidence and predictability, we wanted to offer a balanced geometry that would suit riders of all styles, abilities and sizes. Luckily, much of the hard work had already been done through our considered approach to geometry on our Gen 1 bikes. Still, a few small but important tweaks were made to make the most of our new platform. Gen 2 bikes feature longer rear centres and wheelbase lengths and longer head tube lengths on larger sizes. All of these small changes make Gen 2 bikes more balanced and confidence-inspiring.

• Mixed Wheel Flip-Chip: Having the option to switch between a 29-inch rear wheel and a smaller 27.5-inch rear wheel on your Gen 2 bike is great way to dial in your bike to suit your riding preferences and terrain. Our flip-chip system allows riders to switch between wheel sizes without affecting the geometry or upsetting the balance of your bike.

(P1 complete bikes ship as a mixed wheel. P2-P4 ship in full 29in. All sizes will accommodate 29in and 27.5in rear wheels. We will be offering incredible pricing on additional rear wheel options, complete with tyre and tubeless set up, when purchasing your Gen 2 so you can run your bike how you like from day one.)

• Adjustable rear centre: The only thing better than size-specific chainstay lengths is adjustable size-specific chainstay lengths. Gen 2’s flip chip increases the rear centre by +10mm from the standard length. Rear center adjustability allows you to customise your bike for your next race, uplift day, or a tight, twisty day at the trail center. Our flip-chip requires no additional hardware to adjust from ‘normal’ to ‘long’ settings, thanks to a cleverly designed reversible brake adapter mount.

• Size-specific chainstays: Size-specific chainstays grow in length as reach increases on larger frames. This ensures the rider is perfectly balanced on the bike. We were one of the early adopters of size-specific chainstays, and we’ve carried this forward-thinking approach to geometry to our Gen 2 bikes.

• Steep seat tube angle: Gen 2 bikes continue with our approach to seat tube angles that promote climbing efficiency. The Gen 2 161 sports an 80-degree effective (77-degree actual) seat tube angle, and the Gen 2 141 gets a 78.5-degree effective (76.5-degree actual) seat tube angle. Plus, the updated full insertion seat tube design gives you plenty of room to slam your dropper post completely for going big.

Durability and serviceability

• 42mm, full complement, Enduro Max main bearings
• Secondary seals on all bearings
• Forged one-piece rocker
• Easy access cable and hose routing
• Single sided hardware
• Extensive custom designed frame protection
• Replaceable ISCG mounts
• Room for a large bottle and tool on every size

We design bikes for privateer riders and racers, the type of rider who rides hard all day everyday, and demands long-lasting durability and ease of maintenance. To keep your Gen 2 bike running for longer with minimal maintenance, we’ve upgraded our bearing hardware, introduced secondary seals, and ensured all pivot hardware is single-sided for simple, trail-side bolt checks. Ride more, wrench less!

• Enduro Max full compliment bearings: Gen 2 Privateer bikes feature full complement 42mm Enduro Max main bearings. Full complement bearings increase the number of balls by utilising space usually taken by ball retainers. Increasing the number of balls allows for more load capacity than standard bearings and resists the high forces Gen 2 bikes were designed to withstand. High-quality seals and high-pressure grease keep them protected from the elements and run smoother for longer.

• Sealed single-sided pivot hardware: Our single-sided hardware makes maintenance easy and requires a single tool to be used on just one side of the pivot hardware. This makes trailside checks a breeze, and because each bolt boasts additional ‘O’ ring seals, you can be confident your bearings will be safe from the elements.

• Forged one-piece rocker: Our A-L-P Suspension platform uses an updated forged one-piece rocker. We forge our linkage as it creates a much stronger structure. Our bearing seats are machined with precision to ensure perfect bearing alignment to increase bearing life and enhance suspension performance.

• Replaceable ICSG tabs: Bash guards and chain guides can take a beating on the trail, so to avoid any unwanted damage occurring to your Gen 2 frame, we’ve built replaceable ISCG tabs with a keyed fitment to prevent movement even when ridden under the harshest of conditions.

• External cable routing: Easy access hose and cable routing make maintaining and servicing your bike nice and simple, and our secure cable/hose clamps ensure there is no unwanted rattle on the trail.

• Room for a large bottle and tool on all sizes: Once you’re out on the trail, we want you to stay out there enjoying yourself for as long as possible. With each size of Gen 2 Privateer from size P1-P4 having clearance for a 600ml bottle and a dedicated tool mount, you can stay hydrated and be prepared for the unexpected.

• Extensive custom frame protection: The custom-designed chainstay and seat stay protectors prevent chain slap and rubbing, while a downtube protector guards against rock strikes, keeping your Gen 2 quiet and minimising damage. (the frame protection shown in these launch assets are pre-production samples. Production models will be black)

Gen 2 Privateer 141

The Privateer 141 is our well-rounded, all-mountain and trail bike. Designed to be agile and offer pure riding fun. Capable of hanging with big travel bikes and attacking enduro tracks while remaining lively on your home trails. If you split your time between all day sessions and local enduro races, the Privateer 141 offers the best of both worlds.

Boasting 141mm or rear wheel travel matched to a 150mm fork, the Privateer 141 offers the same level of durability and adjustability as the 161 but with a trail/all-mountain focused geometry.

Gen 2 141 Frameset Highlights

• 29in or MX
• 141 rear wheel travel
• Enduro Max Full Compliment bearings
• Flip Chip rear centre adjustment
• Size Specific chain stays
• Custom-tuned Fox Float X Performance Elite
• 6061 T6
• Price: £1,889 / €2,089 / $2,389
*Headset, axle, ISCG, seat clamp included.

Gen 2 141 Complete Bike Highlights

• 29in (F 29/R 27.5 size P1)
• Fox 36 Performance Elite, 150mm
• Custom-tuned Fox Float X Performance Elite
• SRAM GX 1 x 12
• Hayes Dominion A4, 4 piston brakes
• HUNT Enduro Wide V2 wheelset
• Maxxis Assegai EXO+ front, DHR II DD rear
• Price: £4,289 / €4,789 / $5,389

Gen 2 Privateer 161

The Gen 2 Privateer 161 follows in the footsteps of the original, built to be ripped and raced out of the box and provide seasons of trouble-free hammering. The Gen 2 161 boasts 161mm of travel out of the box, but with the option to over stroke the frame to 174mm and run a dual crown fork, the 161 is more versatile than ever.

As you would expect, the 161 is suited to riders spending most of their riding time racing enduros, hitting sketchy off-piste lines or lapping the bike park.

Gen 2 161 Frameset Highlights

• 29in or MX
• 161mm rear wheel travel
• Enduro Max full complement bearings
• Flip chip rear centre adjustment
• Size specific chain stays
• Custom-tuned Fox Float X2 Performance Elite
• 6061 T6
• Price: £1,979 / €2,179 / $2,479
*Headset, axle, ISCG, seat clamp included.

Gen 2 161 Complete Bike Highlights

• 29in (F 29/R 27.5 size P1)
• Fox 38 Performance Elite, 170mm
• Custom-tuned Fox Float X2 Performance Elite
• XT/SLX 1 x 12
• Hayes Dominion A4, 4 piston brakes
• HUNT Enduro Wide V2 wheelset
• Maxxis Assegai DD front, DHR II DH rear
• Price: £4,379 / €4,879 / $5,479

Preorder and receive a free rear wheel!

Make the most of the mixed-wheel compatibility of our Gen 2 bikes with a free rear wheel! Customers taking the opportunity to preorder a Gen 2 141 or Gen 2 161 before 30th April 2024 will receive a rear wheel and tyre free of charge, meaning you can enjoy the benefits of full 29in or mixed-wheel options right out of the box! (Customers ordering a P1 size bike will receive an optional 29-inch rear wheel and tyre. Customers ordering P2-P4 will receive an optional 27.5-inch wheel and tyre).

Availability

Being sensitive to the current difficulties in the bike industry, we have decided to limit quantities of Gen 2 bikes for the 2024 season. Pre-sales for Gen 2 bikes and framesets begin today 16th February. Frames will be in stock from May week 1, and bikes in stock from May week 5.

We’re also excited to announce that Gen 2 bikes will be shipping directly from our UK, U.S and newly opened E.U offices to serve customers globally with sales and aftermarket support.

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  • Privateer Bikes finally launch Gen 2 range and pre-sales
  • chrismac
    Full Member

    Comes with a free crane to help you lift it onto the car or over a gate. 40lb for a bike is simply not acceptable imho.

    mashr
    Full Member

    Sadly feels like a swing and a miss. Geometry looks absolutely bang on for me, but the heft and being hugely progressive are not.

    Still feel that no UDH might be a mistake too, but that could be fixable with a change of seat stay down the road.

    Also pretty sure it’s more ugly than my outgoing Whyte G160, and that’s saying something

    DaveyBoyWonder
    Free Member

    40lb for a full sus? Is that right? I thought we’d left 40lb non-e full sussers back in 1998?

    rockthreegozy
    Free Member

    Yeah 40.1lb for the one Pinkbike have. That’s an XL with Fox 38s, DH casing rear tyre and Doubledown front.

    38.3lbs with lighter wheels and Exo+ casings if they work for you

    Pauly
    Full Member

    So many marketing cliché’s in that press release. Jeez…

    DaveyBoyWonder
    Free Member

    Yeah 40.1lb for the one Pinkbike have

    Just skim read the review. Thats one heavy and ugly looking thing…

    StuE
    Free Member

    Much prefer the Airdrop edit

    Edit MX Frame & Rockshox SDLX Coil Ultimate

     

    andybrad
    Full Member

    im curious as to how this single sided hardware works? as you cant get a tool to things like the shock bolts unless you go from the other side?

    alpin
    Free Member

    Sod that…. 40lb…. That’s crazy.

    My old Strive has bulked out to 13,5kg and is robust enough.

    lcj
    Full Member

    I was waiting for Privateer to release this before deciding between the Bird Aeris and this. The top tube alone makes the decision for me (Gen 1 Santa Cruz Nomad?), then the weight, then the aesthetics of the linkage, then the top tube again. Plus you can only change travel with a different shock, rather than a linkage swap.

    Off to call Bird!

    v7fmp
    Full Member

    as other say… what a missed opportunity. Geo does look pretty good. But lack of UDH and a few other bits… its a no from me.

    doomanic
    Full Member

    IMG_6509

    BillOddie
    Full Member

    I can cope with 38-40lbs (the banshee is 38lb, what’s 2lbs between friends).

    What I absolutely cannot deal with is the bends in Top tube and down tube behind the head tube.

    I just see:

    stingmered
    Full Member

    Why don’t you test ride the thing before griping about weight? I’m sure most people riding it could do with losing 5 or 6 lbs themselves…

    DaveyBoyWonder
    Free Member

    Why don’t you test ride the thing before griping about weight?

    Because its gopping as well.

    seriousrikk
    Full Member

    I always thought the old 141 just looked… purposeful. Not sure why they had to hit this one with the ugly stick.

    Unless there is some other benefit to a kink in the top tube.

    chakaping
    Free Member

    I was waiting for Privateer to release this before deciding between the Bird Aeris and this.

    The Aeris 9? It’s still a bit of a lump and best suited to winch-and-plummet riding, but I’m sure mine’s comfortably under 40lbs (with a coil shock and Zeb).

    lcj
    Full Member

    Yes, Aeris 9. Not expecting it to be feather weight (my Aether 9 build is burly with coil shock and Z1 coils) but at least it won’t offend my eyes and I can just swap the link for bigger days out/foreign trips rather than having to buy a whole other shock.

    Plus if I get it in raw the Finance Committee at home might not tell the difference between old and new!

    tazzymtb
    Full Member

    I’m sure someone somewhere will like it, but that is a gopping obese monstrosity of a thing and needs to taken out to a field by a vet with a shotgun and put out of its misery

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    Yeah, just watched the YouTube video wondering if this might challenge my lust for the Edit MX. I was too distracted by the top tube to actually pay attention to what was being said.

    chakaping
    Free Member

    Yes, Aeris 9. Not expecting it to be feather weight (my Aether 9 build is burly with coil shock and Z1 coils) but at least it won’t offend my eyes and I can just swap the link for bigger days out/foreign trips rather than having to buy a whole other shock.

    I had a couple of weeks in the Alps on mine last year and I never felt the need to fit the 180mm linkage TBH, it rides great with 160mm rear/180mm front and takes the hits really well. It was in its element out there, more so than most of my UK riding.

    dirkpitt74
    Full Member

    Oh, erm, well that’s, erm – well frickin’ ugly!!!!!

    The previous one was decent looking.

    What’s with the bent top tube crap – are they trying to look like a bad imitation of Mondraker – or was it designed to look like it’s hit a brick wall???

    gowerboy
    Full Member

    Aren’t all full suspension bikes ugly? 😉

    rootes1
    Full Member

    proper stack numbers! Slowly brands are getting it.

    lcj
    Full Member

    chakapingFree Member
    Yes, Aeris 9. Not expecting it to be feather weight (my Aether 9 build is burly with coil shock and Z1 coils) but at least it won’t offend my eyes and I can just swap the link for bigger days out/foreign trips rather than having to buy a whole other shock.
    I had a couple of weeks in the Alps on mine last year and I never felt the need to fit the 180mm linkage TBH, it rides great with 160mm rear/180mm front and takes the hits really well. It was in its element out there, more so than most of my UK riding.

    That’s good to hear, thanks. I’m heading to Whistler in the summer so the flexibility might be nice. Part of me wants to keep the Aether 9 and take that as it’s perfect for most of my riding. But new things..

    stevedoc
    Free Member

    Ive seen far worse looking bikes and im sure the will sell loads … Just not this way, after my limited experience of the gen1  which was heavier than a mk1 Landy even with gucci carbon wheels and stuff . It never felt like a good bike. A little cheaply put together and the weight .. did I mention the weight ……  Ive never ever wanted a Lakes hike a bike fun day to end  I bet that frame was stripped quicker than a facebook bag head on chuck day .

    rootes1
    Full Member

    @Icj

    Looked at the RAAW Madonna ? v2.2 on offer and v3 first batch still available

     

     

    HoratioHufnagel
    Free Member

    Aren’t a lot of enduro bikes quite heavy these days? Polygon in this vid is over 42lb

    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/enduro-world-cup-bike-weigh-in-courtesy-of-edbull-media-house.html

    Rubber_Buccaneer
    Full Member

    tazzymtb
    Full Member
    I’m sure someone somewhere will like it, but that is a gopping obese monstrosity of a thing and needs to taken out to a field by a vet with a shotgun and put out of its misery

    Not enough top tubes for you?

    superfli
    Free Member

    Its the +3000ft rides (which is only 13 miles or so where I ride), that you appreciate a lighter build. People say you wont notice the difference, but its the cumulative effort involved in dragging a heavy bike around that will change your mind. The weight of a bike has always been fairly high up on my list of bike attributes.

    godzilla
    Free Member

    I love my Gen1 141 and have been patiently waiting for the Gen2 161, but it’s way too heavy no raw option and absolutely gopping looking, I’m really disappointed and a bit peed of the Raw Madonna 2.2 sale frame isn’t in my size now.
    I’ve seen a few prototype Gen2 bikes in raw and they didn’t looks as ugly as the production bikes, not sure if it’s the paint  or the press bike in an odd size, I appreciate that part of the weight comes from proper gravity tires but +40 is ridiculous.

    mashr
    Full Member

    rootes1
    Full Member
    proper stack numbers! Slowly brands are getting

    One of the things they got right, but then again at the other end you’ve got a whopping amount of progression in the suspension. Reckon I’d need to find a way to put a tru-tune in shock to ever get anywhere near full travel

    chakaping
    Free Member

    Its the +3000ft rides (which is only 13 miles or so where I ride), that you appreciate a lighter build. People say you wont notice the difference, but its the cumulative effort involved in dragging a heavy bike around that will change your mind. The weight of a bike has always been fairly high up on my list of bike attributes.

    Yeah, as much as condescending journos and bike designers tell us “weight doesn’t matter”, it bloody well does when you’re carrying it up a mountain or just pedalling it all day.

    I’m sure this is fine for enduro smashing, but it’s not gonna be a great all-rounder for a lot of us.

    Speeder
    Full Member

    My old steel frame Keewee DH bike is sub 40lbs with full fat DH tyres. Ok it’s 26″ but . . . .

    Is this really progress?

    tazzymtb
    Full Member

    Not enough top tubes for you?

    🤣

    Look, ive got and owned some odd and ugly bikes, ellesworth, mavericks, trek 69ers, jones space frames etc….

    But those new privateer bikes make donald trump touching himself with his tiny hands look attractive

    sharkattack
    Full Member

    Is this really progress?

    Yes. Because those old Keewee DH bikes were crap even when they were new and this is a versatile bike that can do a bit of anything.

    julians
    Free Member

    40lb!?

    Crikey,only a couple of pounds lighter than my ebike, and that has proper gravity tyres on it too.

    Is the frame filled with lead?

    rockhopper70
    Full Member

    Crucially,  no mention of how many d’s of traction it has. That’s the number we want to learn.

    noeffsgiven
    Free Member

    Total cluster **** of bad ideas. WTF were they thinking.

    halifaxpete
    Full Member

    Sure it’ll ride well and has more adjustability than the gen1, Not as nice looking though for sure, The weights never bothered me I regularly do 3000ft+ rides round the calder valley on my 141, it doesn’t feel heavy on the move IMO

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