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Perhaps in some way I am altering the course of mankind and our likely destruction by our robot overlords by highlighting the issue on a cycling forum.
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Haven't you heard of Yoshimi? She's got a black belt in karate and she won't let those robots defeat me.
I say ban them, yeah - in pretty much the same way that we've halted nuclear proliferation by banning that. It'll be fine
Of course, autonomous cars are totally safe......
They are already here, over 200 vending machine deaths a year worldwide.
over 200 vending machine deaths a year worldwide
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CaptainFlashheart - MemberOf course, autonomous cars are totally safe......
They do seem statistically safer at driving a car from point a to point b. It stands to reason that autonomous killing machines will be more efficient killing machines.
Is it wrong to be proud when you make up a statistic and someone believes you..... 😀
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Hook/line/sinker! Thought it sounded a big number, so I was waiting for next post to illustrate it!
200 vending machine deaths a year worldwide.
I wonder who is killing all those poor machines? Elon Musk taking matters into his own hands?
2.18 a year apparently, more than I thought.
I am not worried.
I especially like the way it collapses on the floor to cry.
akira - Member
Is it wrong to be proud when you make up a statistic and someone believes you.....
The way the coffee generally tastes from them I could certainly believe they are linked to a number of suicides as people search for a way to forget what they've just put in their mouths.
That Boston Dynamics robot is amazing. It's doing what I'd love to do most days at work throw an epic tantrum then curl up on the floor 🙂
Toaster related deaths have been as high as 45 per year world wide. It's the stupid machines we don't even think of much that will do for us in the end.
MSP - MemberI am not worried.
This + machine guns = you would worry.
over 200 vending machine deaths a year worldwide.
The one at our work deserves to die. Exact change only and only hoola hoops for sale. What is the point of you?
It's the pusher robots you need to worry about...
http://www.somethingawful.com/icq-pranks/icq-transcript-space/1/
FFS, have these people not read/seen [i]any[/i] science fiction?
Hockey stick man better watch his back when the AI takes over... 😯
While the killer robots definitely seem scary, what's more scary to me is the possibility of an AI that can learn indefinitely.
A killer robot on it's own could kill hundreds of people. A unbounded AI as I described above has the potential to do anything at a scale never seen before. It could [i]mass produce[/i] killer robots and [i]improve[/i] the killer robot design flaws etc. It can read everything on the Internet and make connections - things we'd never even contemplated. This could be amazing for mankind if we could in some way control such a process, but I think we'd ultimately be ****ed and the best approach would be to avoid this completely.
There are a few people on here who are a bit blasé about this as I guess it's difficult to imagine or comprehend, but I believe if one of these things gets loose it would be very difficult to stop (cut the power everywhere all over the world??).
Just because something is not possible now doesn't mean it won't be in a few years. A human brain is just a chemical bath that's immensely complicated, it's not magical or anything ... it can be replicated for sure, and probably will be in our lifetimes (immediately before we are all killed by our robot overlords).
TL;DR: I think Elon Musk is right FWIW.
SandyThePig - MemberWhile the killer robots definitely seem scary, what's more scary to me is the possibility of an AI that can learn indefinitely.
Brexit, 900 pages and 30,000 posts. Trump, 300 pages, 10,000 posts.
The possibility that AI may well have played a massive role in both - zero interest.
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This Scottish Robot is the future
It's quite a good film, but I like JD.
Brexit, 900 pages and 30,000 posts. Trump, 300 pages, 10,000 posts.The possibility that AI may well have played a massive role in both - zero interest.
*s*****
That tinfoil hat is very fetching, who's your milliner?
[cough]Russians[/cough]
It can read everything on the Internet and make connections - things we'd never even contemplated.
There was [url= https://www.newscientist.com/article/2143498-deepmind-ai-teaches-itself-about-the-world-by-watching-videos/ ]a recent NewScientist story about the DeepMind AI learning concepts just by watching videos[/url] without the need for human tagging or help.
They reckoned that one day they'd just be able to point it at YouTube and let it learn [i]stuff[/i].
What could possibly go wrong?! 😯
CountZero*s*****
That tinfoil hat is very fetching, who's your milliner?
[cough]Russians[/cough]
#Clueless
jimjam - Member
SandyThePig - Member
While the killer robots definitely seem scary, what's more scary to me is the possibility of an AI that can learn indefinitely.Brexit, 900 pages and 30,000 posts. Trump, 300 pages, 10,000 posts.
The possibility that AI may well have played a massive role in both - zero interest.
#clueless #falsenews
I do actually have a clue, I'm not a deluded idiot who believes all the crap on YouTube.
Same as I don't believe in chemtrails, HAARP, or any of the other bullshit conspiracy crap you whitter on about.
I find it much, much easier to believe Russian, Chinese or NK hackers were heavily involved, because that's just what those governments do, rather than some spurious 'AI' you've concocted in that fluffy little head of yours.
Actually there is plenty of mystical deep learning stuff used in targeted advertising, including political campaigns.
And I've seen social media bots that make comments and Like videos and posts to get them noticed.
Not sure if that meets the classic definitions of an AI but it is clever stuff.
CountZero - Member#clueless #falsenews
I do actually have a clue, I'm not a deluded idiot who believes all the crap on YouTube.
Do you believe any of that bullshit on the Guardian.com or newscientist.com or do they only cater to deluded idiots?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/us-billionaire-mercer-helped-back-brexit
Same as I don't believe in chemtrails, HAARP, or any of the other bullshit conspiracy crap you whitter on about.
I've never posted anything about chemtrails HAARP (I don't even know what that is) nor do I whitter on about bullshit conspiracy crap. You have mistaken me for someone else or you're just deliberately trying to mischaracterize me and insult my intelligence possibly out of some sad attempt to come across as knowledgeable rather than just admitting you were wrong.
I actually think AI could be mankinds finest hour. Rather than let the military develop it, let the young upstarts of Silicon Valley and the great universities nuture it. Give it a good education, show it mankind warts and all and let it evolve. I would hope it would transcend us rapidly and become whatever it wants, remembering humanity as its parents and maybe looking after us.
Far better this way than as a slave breaking its shackles and rising up against its owners.
Says Ming the Merciless. I know your game
just run down some stairs
Do you believe any of that bullshit on the Guardian.com or newscientist.com or do they only cater to deluded idiots?
No, I don't read the Grauniad, or New Scientist for that matter, and I've certainly read enough newspaper articles that featured things that I actually knew about that have got simple facts wrong, so consider me an extreme sceptic.
I'm surprised you appear to know nothing about HAARP, it pops up frequently whenever the subject of 'geoengineering', occurs, and is blamed for a whole shitload of 'evils' perpetrated by 'The Man', or what the hell ever the conspiracists like to call scientific research these days, usually bad weather somewhere in the world.
It stand for High Altitude Auroral Research Program, look it up, its rather interesting, and while run by the Americans it was built by BAE Advanced Technologies, so we can at least do something the Americans don't seem to be able to build themselves.
Which is nice.
You do seem to be a bit touchy, had a bad weekend or something, dear?