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If you're going to nuke a 7000 post thread, maybe you could at least pop a post saying why?
Going from 0-nuke, without even posting a warning, is behaviour Donald would be proud of.
It was the best thread ever, no really, it was phenomenal.
Bigly
Like this is going to last...
2016 claims another, someone's gotta tell saxonrider
It got out of hand real quick tonight
Zulu-Eleven was having a Trump style meltdown today.
Not pretty.
Sad.
I'm going to have to buy a book or something to read now that's gone.
Anyone recommend a good magazine? I like bikes and stuff.
It got out of hand real quick tonight
I noticed it did get a bit sean spicy in there, but a mod could just have posted 'Oi....calm down everyone or I will lock this', rather than just locking.
He wasn't the one threatening others...
Shame to lose the thread though.
Perhaps it will be reopened after a cooling period?
Fake post.
Alt post.
It's been transferred over to the Theresa May thread, don't worry...
Yeah, its not like the thread had anywhere to go..
It could have been an epic.
But nastiness in intrinsic in here, so what choices were available? "Oi, stop it or.." or "Banned" or close it.
Not a lot else.
Shame.
It must be because someone complained. No other reason
Or just let people rant and burn themselves out...it's not like we're adults or anything.
Bypassing mainstream media (yeah...stw).
You can't call a moron a moron....cause,reasons.
But nastiness in intrinsic in here
Nah i don't consider it is, however there are 2 or 3 posters who i will not acknowledge with a response in any thread as they act/post like dicks to garner a response so it's easier to ignore than to respond and fuel their ego.
mental note to self: Don't bother to try to logically discourse with idiots..... 😉
PS i agree with you Soma, the vast majority of peeps on STW are pretty decent, articulate, and despite not necessarily agreeing the whole time, get along just fine!
I'd reply to maxtorque's post, but I agree with him. 😀
Thought it was getting, well, got very nasty. Posts could've just been deleted and the ban hammer used
Thought it was getting, well, got very nasty. Posts could've just been deleted and the ban hammer used
Nasty? I would give it 6/10 mumsnets for how bad it got.
Hang on, has anyone one checked it wasn't the Russians?
As long as mumsnet is consenting, we'll be alright.
AIBU in wanting to ban muslims from my street/country?
I tend to be a voyeur on the political threads rather than a poster but I out of any of the other forums or FB groups I visit STW is the most moderated, most PC and probably the nicest behaved.
Without a few juicy threads to play on the those that 'spoiled' the Trump thread will just find another, better to give them a sandbox to play in IMO
Basically the Trump thread became bitter and divisive, just like the orange shitgibbon himself.
So the dark forces that lurk in the background in STW swooped n and terminated the thread with extreme prejudice. All for the wider good of the site.
Ironically somewhere in a CIA black ops site there's a team of extremely deniable assassins plotting to fix the Trump problem in a similar way.
Unwritten rule #7 of this forum. There are some members that won't ever enter into reasoned debate and will always take the Michael. Zulu-eleven is one of them.
When did Kimbers become the liberal version of Chekwk? 8)
[quote=Jamie ]I would give it 6/10 mumsnets for how bad it got.
SIOB WRT YABU
OTOH IKWYM
chewkw is one of the good (bad) posters, he's amusing and i'd quite happily have a pint and a face to face discussion/argument with him in the pub as i imagine we'd both leave on good terms, as for the others i feel it would be a very short discussion before i would feel utter contempt for their views.
Threatening someone is not the smartest move if you want a thread to remain open
May be fairer to moderate for the many rather than the few..Basically the Trump thread became bitter and divisive
I turned away in disdain a few times, but turned away in disgust when ninfan was accused of being a rape apologist. He might be many things, but not that.
[quote=teamhurtmore ]Threatening someone is not the smartest move if you want a thread to remain open
Agreed but a collective punishment rather than a ban for those involved would seem a more appropriate response
Its not like another political thread wont fill the vacuum and we will all repeat the dance.
Threatening someone is not the smartest move if you want a thread to remain open
Again, not excusing the handbags that were thrown underarm in the thread, but a warning/temp ban just to nudge people back on track would have sufficed.
p.s You want some?
Excellent. Has/will the brexit one go the same way?
Chewkw is the only poster I don't read. It's not a voluntary boycott, I involuntarily skip over his stuff like I do with those info-pubs in newspaper articles or pop-up windows I close the instant they appear without even knowing what they are. I find it irritating when people quote him and I realise what I'm reading.
May be fairer to moderate for the many rather than the few..
Indeed. I would have thought the sensible move would have been to invite the "combatants" to take it outside rather than close the whole thread.
I turned away in disdain a few times, but turned away in disgust when ninfan was accused of being a rape apologist. He might be many things, but not that.
Well if you read what he wrote then he either has a disturbing view on consent with regards to sexual assault or is willing to give that impression in order to keep up his troll.
*In before the CougarBan™ 😉
km79 - Member
Well if you read what he wrote then he either has a disturbing view on consent with regards to sexual assault or is willing to give that impression in order to keep up his troll.
I read what he said [i]very carefully[/i] and he may have a disturbing view- but that was it.
[quote=Junkyard ]
Threatening someone is not the smartest move if you want a thread to remain open
Agreed but a collective punishment rather than a ban for those involved would seem a more appropriate response
[quote=Jamie ]
Threatening someone is not the smartest move if you want a thread to remain open
Again, not excusing the handbags that were thrown underarm in the thread, but a warning/temp ban just to nudge people back on track would have sufficed.
And yet the culprit is still posting
this is giving me deja vu!
And yet the culprit is still posting
And the "victim*" is not
Makes you think ™
* perhaps they thought he was the victim of extreme goading /trolling
Seemed pretty clear he was after a [emotional] response from someone - I declined
Truthfully i think he is capable of some well reasoned points, has excellent sources and an impressive knowledge base but too often he just posted anything to provoke "lefties" which came to mean anyone not pleased with Trump.
codybrennan - MemberI turned away in disdain a few times, but turned away in disgust when ninfan was accused of being a rape apologist.
He literally said that if a woman lets you do something, they've consented. I don't know if that was a troll, or if he actually thinks it's right, but either way- urgh.
Indeed Scottie,
Sticks and stones don't hurt STW bones but little words will alway hurt us 😉
A chat forum on which it's impossible to discuss the two most visible leaders of the Anglo-Saxon world. The noisy aggressive pro-TM and DT minority has won. criticism of TM and DT is no longer possible here.
It wasn't really going anywhere to be fair, but it was an entertaining and interesting thread.
You do realise it's all lies made up by the media don't you.
And the only reason my thread was closed is cos it's the biggest thing ever .....
Signed
Donald
[quote=Edukator ]A chat forum on which it's impossible to discuss the two most visible leaders of the Anglo-Saxon world. The noisy aggressive pro-TM and DT minority has won. criticism of TM and DT is no longer possible here.
Well, if the best the anti-DT faction can come up with is threats of violence against other posters, why should they be given a platform?
It's not impossible to discuss Theresa May either. It's just that many of the threads were re-hashing the EU referendum thread.
How can Nifan be accused of being anything? His STW persona is to pick at others posts whilst never making a personal opinion/statement of what he/she believes.
Nifan must be pleased to have this happen. Likes to get a rise out of people.
And yet the culprit is still posting
Obviously the mod in question thought sticking a knife in the football, was better than sending the player off.
Likes to get a rise out of people.
He gets a rise out of me.....just not the sort he is expecting.
criticism of TM and DT is no longer possible here
considering they are letting the usual suspects discuss their decision its pretty unfair critique of STW/moderation.
I like the openness of the debate they allow on here and lets face it we do need moderation [ well some of us anyway ...guilty face goes here]
and the olympic torch has been passed to our next heroif the best the anti-DT faction can come up with is threats of violence against other posters, why should they be given a platform?
And yet the culprit is still postingAnd the "victim" is not
Makes you think ™
As I understand the system, folks only get banned or possibly deleted, If they receive a complaint. It could be that someone complained about the 'victim' but not the culprit
[quote=Northwind ]He literally said that if a woman lets you do something, they've consented.
Literally, or literally literally?
Could they not just have built a wall around it and charged them?
Well, if the best the anti-DT faction can come up with is threats of violence against other posters...
I thought the best the anti-DT faction have come up with is pointing out the many ways in which The Donald is an utter dick.
Reports that the Trump thread have been closed are fake news
Northwind - Member
codybrennan - Member
I turned away in disdain a few times, but turned away in disgust when ninfan was accused of being a rape apologist.He literally said that if a woman lets you do something, they've consented. I don't know if that was a troll, or if he actually thinks it's right, but either way- urgh.
Oh. I may have missed that bit; I didn't see it right up until the thread got deleted. Hmm. OK then...ignore me
Sigh.
Openness and moderation are difficult acts to balance..I like the openness of the debate they allow on here and lets face it we do need moderation
The Hillary thread was worse.
He literally said that if a woman lets you do something, they've consented.
Was that a semantic argument? Because 'let' surely is consent, isn't it?
Are you a moderator, Scotroutes?
I wondered why [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/theresa-may-2 ]this TM thread[/url] and others got closed. When Cougar closes a thread because of duplication he says as much.
Did they have enough control to "let", and therefore give consent to, you?
Letting you because you're famous is all a bit Rolf Harris if you ask me, and that didn't end well.
FFS I go out for 3 hours and something interesting happen.
( sad face) .
Are you a moderator, Scotroutes?
He's been a mod for aaaaaaages.
Thought everyone knew?
If I have a knife to your throat and you "let" me rob you..not sure it would be much of a defence for me.Was that a semantic argument? Because 'let' surely is consent, isn't it?
Because 'let' surely is consent, isn't it?
No, to let something happen doesn't necessarily confirm consent. A person that lets a rape or assault happen may well do so because they fear the potentially greater consequences of putting up a struggle. Or they may be hoping that the quickest way to end the ordeal is to comply.
No, to let something happen doesn't necessarily confirm consent. A person that lets a rape or assault happen may well do so because they fear the potentially greater consequences of putting up a struggle. Or they may be hoping that the quickest way to end the ordeal is to comply.
Well this seems to be the jist of the argument against, but surely what you talk about then is being forced and that isn't 'let'
Why would someone be a mod by stealth? Why not put it in profile?
A lady escaped a serial killer because she was compliant and calm during the rape and repeatedly told him she wouldn't tell anybody about what happened. It's thought she is the only one of his many rape victims who lived.





