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Watching a bmx video yesterday and saw one guy try a 360 of a hugely long stairset with no helmet and no brakes. he got it badly wrong and smashed most of his front teeth out was bleeding from the ear and face. another rider says 'oh well that is part of bmx' What???

Another guy smashes he head on the ground so hard and then gets up and has another go without a helmet. One of the riders was wearing a cap that would fall of after pretty much every trick. if your hat keeps falling off, maybe don't wear it you fool!

Almost every rider had no brakes, bombing around cities and uni campuses with loads of people about, wearing no helmets.

I understand that there is a certain fashion element to it, but this stuff just seems daft!


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:14 pm
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Who are you the fun police 🙄


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:15 pm
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No pain, no gain.


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:16 pm
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They're only going to hurt themselves.

Besides, it's a human nature thing, if they were worried about hurting themselves, they probably wouldn't be doing what they are doing.


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:19 pm
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BMX, love it.

Anyone remember the 'Curb Dogs' from the Golden Gate Bridge many many moons ago 8)


 
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Just doesn't make any sense to me, riding round cities with no brakes and no helmets.

I used to ride bmx as a kid and still think the racing is awesome, but no brakes for street riding and guys doing backflips without helmets seems a bit far fashion wise.


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:33 pm
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You know your old when........


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:36 pm
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Yunki,

nice one 😀 brought back some great memories there.


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:41 pm
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shock horror...they had tattoos and piercings aswell...and scabs


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:43 pm
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ET was OK on the front in a basket, and they did amazing jumps, so it must be ok............


 
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ET was OK on the front in a basket, and they did amazing jumps, so it must be ok............

but did he have brakes, i can't remember?


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:50 pm
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Just doesn't make any sense to me, riding round cities with no brakes and no helmets.

So you don't understand but decide to criticise?

Makes no sense to me......

I've done it. It's cool. It'll teach you more about bike handling than any skills course. Try it. I've even gone urban riding on an MTB. Open your horizons. 🙂


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:51 pm
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Scum the lot of them. Just one step above roadies. No place for 'em on a forum like this.

I blame the Green Party


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 8:54 pm
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You're not going to last very long if you fall off all the time like that. Either you learn fast or give up. I thought most of the top riders like Danny Macaskil claim they have hardly any major injuries so maybe you should try to do things in small steps. I can remember thinking it would be fun jumping off a trailer being driven at 20mph as I ad seen it on the TV. Strangely enough my legs were not fast enough and it kind of hurt.


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 9:04 pm
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mags pay nmore for pics in skate/bmx if they dont have lids on.


 
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BMX rules. I'll agree that I'm not keen on the no brakes thing in public spaces but most people riding no brakes are pretty cautious around people. There is defiantly an element of fashion.

Helmets are and always should be a personal choice.

BMXs mature though like everyone else just look at Ian Morris.

From this ...

to this ...


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 9:05 pm
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or Fids another fine British example of how to mature


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 9:08 pm
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bmx will always be my 1st cycling love! 🙂


 
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I like BMX I also think road riding has a place as a training aid and looks like fun 😀 but all these idiots trying shit they've never done before without armour is just dumb.

There are enough accidents and injury with the armour never mind without it!


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 9:14 pm
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BMX rules. I'll agree that I'm not keen on the no brakes thing in public spaces but most people riding no brakes are pretty cautious around people. There is defiantly an element of fashion

ahh finally somebody gets it......

I can see the point of it for riding dirt jumps, but street? I don't get it.


 
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mags pay nmore for pics in skate/bmx if they dont have lids on.

I never knew this jedi, interesting....

Fashion thing again?


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 9:20 pm
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Last time I checked Danny Mckaskill weren't no BMXer


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 9:21 pm
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Check out "Nike-The Pool" on You Tube. I don't ride a BMX but I can't help but admire anyone who can ride like this. If these guys can look cool in helmets then what's stopping your average Joe on the street from wearing one? Not sure it's much of a fashion statement having a caved in head.


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 9:25 pm
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yea image thing


 
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[url= http://www.mauricemeyer.com/curb_dogs/84_tour_coverage.html ]The Good Old Days[/url]

8)

mongoose, skylines, mushroom grips, Bob Haro and waiting for the next edition of BMX Action Bike.

Riding your bike after school and all day Sat/Sun - did it get any better than that? 😀


 
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Great video chips, the guy has so much skill. proper bmx'ing not this brakeless rubbish


 
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It's impossible for them to see sense, because they've already had too many head injuries.


 
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mags pay nmore for pics in skate/bmx if they dont have lids on.

I doubt this is true as you can't stick sponsorship to a bare head!


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 11:20 pm
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high climber, my mate is a pro skater. tis true


 
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jedi - im not sure about that in BMX, a few friends shoot for various bmx publications and it has never been mentioned or been a consideration on shoots. Also have plenty of friends that are regularly publicized, a helmet reducing money has never come into it.

As for the OP, they accept the risks, what's wrong with something if you accept the risks? It would be like not MTBing because it can be potentially dangerous.

Part of what makes BMX great is how relaxed an attitude toward it is. You don't need to think about it, you don't have to prep for it, you just get on your bike and go. Whether it be middle of the night or the middle of winter, you don't need a good location, or have to go far, flat tarmac will do, if you want to ride, you just pick up your bike and go, no restrictions. Not having to prep with safety equipment or clothing, bike cleaning or gear fettling. It just adds to the lack of restrictions it has.


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 11:37 pm
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Yes....yes, we are grandad.


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 11:38 pm
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the bmx tide is changing towards helmet use


 
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bmx will always be my 1st cycling love!

Same here, I still really want to get back into it, just need to find the right bike. It's the ideal "extreme" bike discipline for round here as we haven't got any mountains but a few good skateparks and trails spots 🙂

I can see the point of it for riding dirt jumps, but street? I don't get it.

Most trails bikes have a rear brake. For street you don't really need brakes as you don't always go very high speed. Keeps the bike quieter and more hassle free as well. And it looks better 😛


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 11:52 pm
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Great video chips, the guy has so much skill. proper bmx'ing not this brakeless rubbish

really liked that Race BMX vid but the guy riding has only one brake and by the looks of it probably doesn't even use it in the entire video.


 
Posted : 13/07/2011 11:55 pm
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As for the OP, they accept the risks, what's wrong with something if you accept the risks?

nothing, but riding around cities with no brakes and no helmet is a bit silly. fashion nonsense.


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 12:01 am
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really liked that Race BMX vid but the guy riding has only one brake and by the looks of it probably doesn't even use it in the entire video.

and you point is?

he still has a brake if things go pearshaped


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 12:02 am
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Quality brakeless riding 🙂

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Posted : 14/07/2011 12:05 am
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Whats wrong with putting your foot behind the front wheel and forks to stop? or scraping your foot along the floor 😕


 
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Tom_ Awesome vid of Dang Dang and Joe at another of Rubens mental spots :D.I NEED to go to malaga right now.


 
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Roadies gonna hate.


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 7:30 am
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Just doesn't make any sense to me, riding round cities with no brakes and no helmets.

Eurgh, agreed. You are talking about fixie riding fakenger knobbers yeah?


 
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my u brakes are so rubbish that I might as well not have them. feet work just as well.


 
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I still remember those eighties school holidays, BMX was everything! My parents were always trying to get me to where a helmet, especially after the night in hospital with my head smashed open, the blood stain down my street was there for years!

I'm a new parent with an eight month old boy and already worrying about him doing all the things I did. Currently I'm trying to convince my nephew that helmets are cool, certainly cooler than wheelchairs and colostomy bags anyway.

It's been done to death, but I for one would like to see all the riders in magazines wearing helmets. Getting old? Probably, but to all the no helmet brigade, how would you feel if your child was doing 360's off steps with no brakes or lid on? It's all cool until it goes wrong!


 
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I only used to wear a helmet when racing BMX's, everything else, ramps, dirt & street was just a pair of jeans. Thats possibly why I'm now a bit thick and have no front teeth.

When you are young you are truly invincible :FACT:


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 8:15 am
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who cares as long as they dont shave their legs


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 8:47 am
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[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1482514.stm ]Invincible[/url]
Almost 10 years ago now 🙁


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 9:08 am
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Now for some riding WITH brakes 🙂 Rob Ridge...


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 9:25 am
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my fav rider^


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 9:27 am
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BMX 😀


 
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Rob Ridge was my hero, about 12 years ago, when I last rode a BMX. Now I have one in the post 😀

Still got his video "Metalmorphosis" somewhere...


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 10:27 am
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rob is amazing to watch. i ride with mark atkins and the tricks he still has is mind blowing 🙂


 
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I run a BMX track and have a lot of hassle off some kids when I make them wear a lid...one of the worst offenders (forgetting to wear one for a lap) tried to manual a jump and looped out...landed on the back of his head...fully accepts he'd now be dead/seriously messed up and has become an advocate for their use

I ride the track and dont use the brake...unless somebody crashes in front of me...feet on the floor dont work trust me 😆

lots of mtbers start on hardtails but are getting the BMX bug...Jedi will be pleased to learn!


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 10:44 am
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loads of us old boys are back on 20's. its rad!


 
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You know your old when...
^^ this

rocket jr is a pretty competent BMXr has been doing it for 5 years. Plenty of laughs, plenty of scrapes but no worse than dressing up in special clothes and riding round the woods on a bicycle costing £1000s


 
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Jedi, new concrete bowl just opened by me so I'm back on the 4 wheel plank.


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 11:39 am
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the new park at hemel will be open in a couple of weeks. it will be of the radness scale!


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 11:40 am
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[url= http://www.zealbmx.com/2011/05/27/new-indoor-concrete-park-yes-indoor-hemel-hempsted/ ]Hemel indoor park[/url]


 
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We just had "The Arc Skatepark" open up here in Preston. Indoor park 😀


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 12:01 pm
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I was at the skatepark last night night with my boy riding his scooter (spit!). There was a young lad doing little hops over the spine ramp thingy on his BMX and I thought, "Hmm, can I do that on my MTB?". Then I remembered that I'd just gone over the bars on the grass approaching the park, so realised "Nah!"


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 12:03 pm
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I gave BMXing a go a few years ago when 2 mates got back into it. OK for them brushing up on their old skills, not so good for me complete beginner with kids half my age flying/spinning/somersaulting over me where I lay crashed and broken on the floor 🙂

Tempted to dust off the bmx (well grind off the rust) and try again but now the kids will be 1/3rd my age 😳

Oh and I will be wearing a lid as personal preference and brakes as a neccessity - what with there being other people around to (try not to) crash into.


 
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Indoor concrete 🙂

Man! I want to ride again!!! 👿


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 2:28 pm
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I'm off for a quick ride. My BMX rides of late seem to be annual. I'm sure I'll come back missing some blood for an embarrassingly stupid fall.


 
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If MRI scans didn't cost money I'd say let em crack on but if they're pushing the limits without a lid they're as worthy of treatment as someone who gets hammered and thinks he can fly.


 
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You don't need to think about it, you don't have to prep for it, you just get on your bike and go. Whether it be middle of the night or the middle of winter, you don't need a good location, or have to go far, flat tarmac will do, if you want to ride, you just pick up your bike and go, no restrictions. Not having to prep with safety equipment or clothing, bike cleaning or gear fettling. It just adds to the lack of restrictions it has.

You mean like riding on the road? 😕


 
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I'm guessing the OP had just watched a Sean Burns video.


 
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That Sean Burns bloke has a screw loose - and he wears his sisters jeans.


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 3:31 pm
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Bonkers


 
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If MRI scans didn't cost money I'd say let em crack on but if they're pushing the limits without a lid they're as worthy of treatment as someone who gets hammered and thinks he can fly.

If you're going down that route of argument many sports injury is questionable.


 
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s'alright, they [i]can[/i] fly;

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BMX is/was my first love. Ok, I only had a burner and couldnt afford a Haro Freestyler, but I was out everyday flinging myself about on it, and loved every second. AT 18 I was spending summer evenings on the quaterpipe while my friends got pissed/stoned, and I still think I had the better life.

I volunteer every year at Guildfords Rampage BMX and Skate competition and get urges to buy a bmx every time. Perhaps this year.....

And regarding helmets, it should be voluntary in my opinion.


 
Posted : 14/07/2011 4:11 pm
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bushwacked, come back to what you know makes sense. the tuesday old boys sessions!


 
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Jedi - Still off the bike 9 months on 🙁 recovering but its a slow process. Hoping to be back on it before Xmas. Buzzing to ride, especially get to the 20 rolling again. Gonna miss that tombstone though


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 7:19 am
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when that day comes, we'll be there again


 
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FACT! 🙂


 
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ooh, while we're getting excited about new bmx parks – that's why this thread was started wasn't it? – the new plans for the new [url= http://www.transgressionpark.com/ ]Transgression Park[/url] in Edinburgh have been released...

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Popped in for a sneaky peak and a chat at the new building a few weeks ago and it looks like it's going to be very good indeed.


 
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"They're only going to hurt themselves."

But then, what about the extra work and stress to paramedics, hospital staff etc if/when things do go wrong? Not to mention putting a strain of their families and those who have to care for them after any serious accidents.

Of course people, especially kids, should go out and have fun. But people need to take responsibility for their actions, and that includes considering the potential burden and cost to the emergency and health services. Surely taking certain reasonable precautions to try to prevent serious injury is not that difficult, and then can save others the hassle of dealing with any negative consequences.

Personally, I admire the skill involved in BMX riding, but I don't admire those who think it's 'cool' to have big scars or lots of broken bones. I just think they're stupid really. Surely it's far cooler to be successful at riding or skating without having smashed yourself up?

I know two people who suffered serious head injuries as kids, skateboarding. One is certainly affected permanently. Wearing helmets would definitely have helped prevent both from suffering serious injury, but I suppose looking 'cool' was more important than not wanting to end up with brain damage.

Yes you could be hit by a bus tomorrow. But surely it's better to look after yourself today?


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:42 am
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dedaser - how many rooms/halls is the new building going to have?

North Berwick now has an indoor park too.

http://www.thespacenb.co.uk/


 
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