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bloody nhs
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Posted 2 years ago #
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Any idea which services should be cut? NICE choose to do what you do on this issue and just sidestep it, which gives people like you something to whine about
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I remember reading a quote on this subject from TJ along the lines of "People who can't have kids are infertile for a reason and shouldn't be helped, dont mess with god" it was like Glen Hoddles "cripples are like it because they've done something in a previous life" total and utter shite
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*/Pedant mode/*
People on the NHS are not Dr. They are medical profeissionals. You need a PhD to be a Dr.
*/Pedant mode/*
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BlingBling - Member
I remember reading a quote on this subject from TJ along the lines of "People who can't have kids are infertile for a reason and shouldn't be helped, dont mess with god" it was like Glen Hoddles "cripples are like it because they've done something in a previous life" total and utter shite
Well you remember wrong then. Not my style at all - even in jest. Not me with that quote.
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Oh yes it was.
*cant find it grrrrr
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Sorry bling bling - I don't believe in God, I don't believe in that sot of thing. No way was it me.
I think I remember the post and it was on a thread I contributed to but no way on earth would I say anything like that - simply because I don't believe that.
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really, slag off the NHS all you want. you'll all be kicking yourselves if it wasn't there.
i'm in germany, the land of socialism and yet i should have my own private health insurance by law. so basically another tax in an already heavily taxed land.
back as a self employed carpenter in the UK my NI contributions were around £20/month. a nominal fee i'll admit but it would cover me if anything were to happen at work or in my free time. in all my time in the UK (24 years) i only visited the hospital around 3 times. the biggest thing being for a broken arm after stacking it on my Roces. my teeth would be looked after and i visited a doctor around once a year if that.
in germany, i should be paying 13.5% (minimum) of what i earn into an insurance fund. as it is i earn sweet FA so have not signed up anywhere. when i was employed (as opposed to self-employed) i was paying around 230€/month. and not once did i need to visit a doctor (for the privilage of such you pay another 10€).
as it is i'm now suffering from some strange red-eyedness (no i'm not stoned) and have been for around a month or so and half a tooth fell out last week whilst eating a slice of bread.
i'm actually scared how much all this is going to cost.
so don't slag off the NHS.
yes people take the piss with it. it should be there to make people fit again, not supply them with a few drugs that will allow them to live an extra month or year, or to change their sex, supply them with kids nature didn't plan for the them to have (sorry MF).
anyone in the UK can use the NHS free of charge when visiting. that is not something you are entitled to in other "advanced" or socially aware countries.
enjoy it, don't abuse or bemoan it.
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I'd rather the NHS money be spent on IVF than spent trying to get fat people to lose weight (here's an idea...stop eating) or hypnotherapy/acupuncture/gum/patches for smokers to quit smoking (dont buy them and you cant smoke them.
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People on the NHS are not Dr. They are medical profeissionals. You need a PhD to be a Dr.
Ah yes and a PHD in Medicine doesn't count.
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bling bling, i'd agree with that but essentailly those people unable to conceive are still breathing and are able to adopt. those idiots who eat themselves silly and end up blaming their genes should be left to it as they know the risks involved in stuffing your face full of shit.
same goes for smokers even though my old man coughs his guts up each morning having smoked for the last 50 yrs of his 66yrs on this earth.
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Ah yes and a PHD in Medicine doesn't count.
Well apparently you don't need one to be a medical professional in the UK
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Alpin so you would agree that if a mtber get to an hosptital after a bad crash he should be left on the side. After he did know the risks quite well before it jumped on the bike.
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no, obviously.
prolonged health abuse is different though.
as an aside Juan, how does it work in France? must each of you have private insurance or is it provided by the state?
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The thing about helping fatties to stop gorging and smokers to stop puffing is that these two things save the country money.
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I'm thankful to the smokers out there - they provide the funds for my medical treatment (way in excess of their cost to the NHS), then drop dead at 60 so don't leach off the pensions fund.
The people we really need to sort out are teatotal, non-smokers who walk and cycle everywhere, don't own a car and stay fit.
Those feckers pay next to sod all in taxes throughout their life, use the NHS for their self inflicted exercise related injuries, remain a burden on the NHS by requiring loads of age related care and live to be 100 y/o needing 30 plus years of pension.
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I'm thankful to the smokers out there - they provide the funds for my medical treatment (way in excess of their cost to the NHS), then drop dead at 60 so don't leach off the pensions fund.
The people we really need to sort out are teatotal, non-smokers who walk and cycle everywhere, don't own a car and stay fit.
Those feckers pay next to sod all in taxes throughout their life, use the NHS for their self inflicted exercise related injuries, remain a burden on the NHS by requiring loads of age related care and live to be 100 y/o needing 30 plus years of pension.
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TJ, not if you start refusing them NHS support for issues linked to being fat or smoking
They'll soon stop.
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No - they will just die.
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