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  • bikesandboots
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    Chrome disabled my Adblock Plus, just took a couple of clicks to re-enable it. I guess it’ll be dropped eventually and I’ll have to go to the less capable Adblock Lite. Or move away from Chrome.

    andytherocketeer
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    You’ll have to move away from Chrome/Chromium etc. (eg to Brave or Firefox) if you want to use such tools in future.

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    Brainflex
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    Ublock origins working well for me.

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    mattyfez
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    I’m on Firefox with Ublock Origin.. seems ok to me?

    Cougar2
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    Chrome disabled my Adblock Plus

    To be fair, that’s the best thing to do with it. It uses more resources than Chrome and that’s over half my system.

    redthunder
    Free Member

    Spose you all could stopping watching it ?

    BruceWee
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    Spose you all could stopping watching it ?

    If Brave ever stops working then that’s my plan.

    I somehow doubt Google are going to win this particular game of whack-a-mole though.

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    martymac
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    “Albania” vpn

    yep totally works for me.

    kiwijohn
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    Adblock pro on Safari and youtube have been skirmishing for a year or so now.

    Currently it’s working fine while logged out, which means I have to remember what channels I watch, but it’s worth it.

    Other times private browsing was another option.

    spooky_b329
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    Some of the people I watch are also on curiosity stream? Anyone tried it out… Wondering if it’s a way to cut out the long YouTube Ads and at the same time lose all the clickbait shorts/dashcam/auditor time wasting crap

    Cougar2
    Free Member

    Some of the people I watch are also on curiosity stream? Anyone tried it out… Wondering if it’s a way to cut out the long YouTube Ads and at the same time lose all the clickbait shorts/dashcam/auditor time wasting crap

    It’s a good point.

    Today, I look for a video and it’s on Instagram/Tiktok/Vimeo/Twitter/Facebook et al, I think “eh, can I find it on YouTube?” Doubly so if it’s something I want to share with folk who eschew those platforms.

    But platforms can die regardless of their ubiquity. Who foresaw the death of LiveJournal? Or Myspace, Geocities, ICQ UINs, AOL IM, Y!, MSN chatrooms, Google+, Friends Reunited… Hell, look at the mass exodus from Twitter post-Muskrat, the only reason it’s still going is that the alternatives aren’t quite as good, yet.

    There is a legal scam currently with leasehold new build houses. They offer out ground rent for like £1/year for ten years then ram it up to £100s or £1,000s. I had a buyer pull out for exactly this reason despite being in a 100+ year old property. If YouTube thinks it can pull the same stunt, drag everyone in and then start being assholes around payment/advertising, the writing’s on the wall. All it takes is a startup with their head screwed on, ByteDance must be champing at the bit and yay all our media hosted in China what could possibly go wrong.

    irc
    Free Member

    Watching YouTube on Firefox with adblock plus. Started getting ads. Added Ghostery now working on.

    I subscribe to Netflix. A couple of newspapers. Donate to a cycling website. BBC licence fee etc. Im not subscribing to everything.

    On my Smart TV I don’t use YouTube because I couldn’t block ads. A  1 minute ad at the start of a 15m or longer video, fine, but I was getting ads in the middle of linger music tracks. Not acceptable.

    I very rarely watch anything on IGV for the same reason.

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    Cougar2
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    I don’t object to adverts per se. I strongly object to them when they appear mid-sentence during a video I’m watching.

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    sirromj
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    I don’t object to adverts per se

    I do. They provide no value to me whatsoever, other than negative experience. At best they’re merely tiresome. They’re nearly always too loud. Always distracting in the way they demand attention…

    mattyfez
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    I don’t object to adverts per se. I strongly object to them when they appear mid-sentence during a video I’m watching.

    Yes it can get silly if, for example using the Yotube app on a smart TV – I just don’t bother watching youtube any more unless I’m on the PC with a secure browser which i can watch on my monitor or stream it to my telly.

    alric
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    I feel like mostly i want to watch a specific video right now, and im prepared for that, so rubbish ads just disconcert me and my interest or train of thought just gets lost. Like im wantin a particular song, or trying to find a segment that shows how to get the bolts out of a machine

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    tjagain
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    do. They provide no value to me whatsoever, other than negative experience. At best they’re merely tiresome. They’re nearly always too loud. Always distracting in the way they demand attention…

    How are you going to pay for these services without?

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    mattyfez
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    I just pirate everything where I can these days … It’s less stress and hassle! Not to mention free!

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    alric
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    a lot of companies cant come up with the things they promise, the 3 sim cards i have dont work at my house, nor the data at work, so im paying(since i forgot to cancel) for spotify but cant listen to anything,and half thepodcasts want extrato listen to some of their stuff.

    IF i could afford all the premium plans, which i cant, maybe i could access all i want, when i need it, but for me the things like fixing cars videos make things possible beneficially or financially viable, but if i have to watch ads all day i will lose focus and not get things done so will never be able to progress to a better lifestyle

    so piracy makes sense

    currently im waiting for a connection, for a code to activate my new sim. its taken 2+ hours so far

    BruceWee
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    How are you going to pay for these services without?

    Personally, I’m not.

    Giving them money is just going to encourage them to continue to enshitificate and to further tune their algorithm to turn more incels into violent misogynists.  By watching their videos with Brave I’m using their services but providing them with no revenue so hopefully it will hasten their demise.

    I get to be part of the resistance while drinking beer and watching Earthed 3 and Line of Sight (which I also have on DVD, I just can’t be bothered getting out of my chair).

    Vive la Revolucion!

    tonyf1
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    I do. They provide no value to me whatsoever, other than negative experience. At best they’re merely tiresome. They’re nearly always too loud. Always distracting in the way they demand attention…

    Sounds like a role in customer services.

    The justification for why I’m entitlement to get something for nothing and level of effort to make it so is comedy gold. Merry Christmas.

    footflaps
    Full Member

    Most of the YT videos I watch (with an ad blocker) seem to be sponsored and they plug something mid video which you can just skip over using the chapters which they have added.

    poly
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    Giving them money is just going to encourage them to continue to enshitificate and to further tune their algorithm to turn more incels into violent misogynists.  By watching their videos with Brave I’m using their services but providing them with no revenue so hopefully it will hasten their demise.

    I think if your objective is to bring down YouTube (Google/Alphabet) you would be better not using YouTube at all rather than finding ways to use it that bypass their revenue streams.  The business valuation is based on the number of users / traffic rather than literally the ad revenue.    Yes you cost them money everytime you use their service, but it adds to their story why they are THE platform for you video content…

    nickc
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    I don’t object to adverts per se.

    I wish YouTube would just place them better, I wouldn’t mind 10 or even 15secs if they just sorted out a decent point to put them in, and if you’re not going to do that, then I’m not going to put up with random shit you throw in like they don’t GAS, and I’ll use an adblocker.

    multi21
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    Hopefully some of you are subscribing to the creators* Patreon because if the ads aren’t shown and clicked on a certain amount, they don’t get paid.

    Most of them seem to give you an ad/sponsor free version of the videos plus a chat room, early access to vids etc for $3 a month or so.

    *I’m not talking about your Mr Beasts who are earning the big bunse,  but Universe Today and things like that where they put out a load of good quality videos and articles and employ a small handful of people.

    sirromj
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    The justification for why I’m entitlement to get something for nothing and level of effort to make it so is comedy gold. Merry Christmas.

    I get what you mean, however, I’ve uploaded over 200 videos and some have as much as 3000+ views and 75+ likes!

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    Cougar2
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    I wish YouTube would just place them better, I wouldn’t mind 10 or even 15secs if they just sorted out a decent point to put them in, and if you’re not going to do that, then I’m not going to put up with random shit you throw in like they don’t GAS, and I’ll use an adblocker.

    Exactly my sentiments, yes.

    I’m of the mind that if a company is going to make it more awkward for me to consume media that in many cases I’ve actually paid money for then I have little moral compunction over seeking alternative routes. Like, the unskippable cutscene at the start of DVDs, “you wouldn’t steal a car…” well probably not, but if I’d torrented the movie instead then I wouldn’t have to listen to your condescending bollocks every single time I load a disc.

    Serving a 10 second ad before a YT video, I could care more. Doing it when a presenter is mid-sentence can get in the sea and I’m turning the screw on my security settings.

    GlennQuagmire
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    Ditto the “happy with some adverts but not an overload” sentiments.

    I watch quite a few aviation channels, am a paid up member and also offer my time for free to help moderate the chat during live streams.  So I’m happy that I’m supporting the channels I follow financially plus making it safe and accessible.

    But not happy to get bombarded with adverts during shows which may last a few hours.

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    Cougar2
    Free Member

    Incidentally,

    A little fact I learned the other day from the Lateral podcast (spoilers ahead if you listen to it and are behind). The music on the “you wouldn’t steal…” DVD intro was used without permission, the composer had to sue them for royalties.

    BruceWee
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    I think if your objective is to bring down YouTube (Google/Alphabet) you would be better not using YouTube at all rather than finding ways to use it that bypass their revenue streams.  The business valuation is based on the number of users / traffic rather than literally the ad revenue.    Yes you cost them money everytime you use their service, but it adds to their story why they are THE platform for you video content…

    You’re right.  I’ll stop using YT and switch to one of it’s competitors.

    Oh wait, they ran at a loss for years in order to acquire market dominance and kill off any competition so now they are (almost) the only show in town.

    Perhaps if they hadn’t run at a loss and instead focused on building a sustainable business model that wasn’t completely and utterly morally bankrupt they wouldn’t find themselves fighting a losing battle against adblockers today.

    footflaps
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    Perhaps if they hadn’t run at a loss and instead focused on building a sustainable business model that wasn’t completely and utterly morally bankrupt they wouldn’t find themselves fighting a losing battle against adblockers today.

    No need to feel bad for them, they appear to be doing just fine:

    https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/youtube-q3-2024-advertising-revenue-growth-1236193926/

    poly
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    You’re right.  I’ll stop using YT and switch to one of it’s competitors.

    Oh wait, they ran at a loss for years in order to acquire market dominance and kill off any competition so now they are (almost) the only show in town.

    Perhaps if they hadn’t run at a loss and instead focused on building a sustainable business model that wasn’t completely and utterly morally bankrupt they wouldn’t find themselves fighting a losing battle against adblockers today.

    the world functioned perfectly well before YouTube, my parents manage to continue to survive in it with almost no reason to use it.  If you are watching YouTube it’s because it provides you content you want.   I doubt they see it as a losing battle – I’d be amazed if they couldn’t make the technical barriers to blocking much harder, actually they are quietly content for people like you to continue making them the defacto monopoly rather than encourage competition.

    poly
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    Serving a 10 second ad before a YT video, I could care more. Doing it when a presenter is mid-sentence can get in the sea and I’m turning the screw on my security settings.

    what happens when you have an adblocker working? Does  the video play uninterrupted or do still get disrupted but without the ad playing?  what if you are casting?

    I am surprised they haven’t given creators the ability to mark parts of their video which can be broken for ads.  An ad when the viewer is annoyed must be less effective?

    reluctantjumper
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    Hopefully some of you are subscribing to the creators* Patreon because if the ads aren’t shown and clicked on a certain amount, they don’t get paid.

    Currently a Patreon supporter of Smith and Sniff, HubNut, Autoshenanigans and Plainly Difficult.  I also buy merch from Smith and Sniff, HubNut, Up N’ Down, AutoAlex, TDC and Colin Furze (I’m a sucker for a branded mug…).  Out of that lot I think I contribute my share.  Actually I know it does as I was talking to two Youtubers at a car show, Rustival, and bought them both a drink from the catering van.  Talking to them later and the subject of YT income came up (was a group of us chatting) and one said that I’d contributed the same to them by buying them a £4 coffee as ten people watching all of their videos from the last year.  Admittedly they only get roughly 15k views per video, you need to regularly get 100k+ twice a week to start earning enough to go full-time, but it still shows that direct support is valuable.

    I am surprised they haven’t given creators the ability to mark parts of their video which can be broken for ads.  An ad when the viewer is annoyed must be less effective?

    They do and it worked pretty well up until a few years ago when YouTube decided to up the frequency of the ads.  If the creator doesn’t put enough breaks in or they’re too far apart then YouTube just overrides them and inserts them where they see fit.  The creators are annoyed about it as much as we are, they know that they have to balance the need for income against a good user experience but YouTube holds all the cards and doesn’t seemingly care if they take the piss and annoy users.

    Cougar2
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    what happens when you have an adblocker working? Does the video play uninterrupted or do still get disrupted but without the ad playing? what if you are casting?

    I’ve never seen a YouTube ad on the desktop aside from embedded sponsored content. Videos just play.

    I haven’t casted in years. YT on the TV uses the native app, I was shocked how intrusive the adverts were.

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    BruceWee
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    the world functioned perfectly well before YouTube, my parents manage to continue to survive in it with almost no reason to use it.  If you are watching YouTube it’s because it provides you content you want. 

    Yep, I used to consume the DH World Cup by buying a copy of Dirt and read the multi-page reports.  They would go into a lot of detail about all the background and gossip as well as in depth analysis.  At the end of the year I would by the Earthed DVD to see what it actually looked like.

    Those days are gone and they aren’t coming back.  Partly it’s the internet in general.  Partly it’s because of YT.

    I doubt they see it as a losing battle – I’d be amazed if they couldn’t make the technical barriers to blocking much harder, actually they are quietly content for people like you to continue making them the defacto monopoly rather than encourage competition.

    Personally, I don’t think they are smart enough to create the 4D chess ‘illusion of rebellion’ you’re describing to keep awkward **** like me hooked.  I think if they could have actually banned adblockers they would have done it by now.  However, I do think they are smart enough to corner the market by making a loss for years before enshitifying their product for all it’s worth.

    But who knows, perhaps they have trapped me in the matrix.  If so I guess I’ll just have to continue to watch Mud Cows without adverts and imagine I’m resisting a very evil conglomerate.  Everyone’s happy.

    Except people who have to deal with the ads, of course.

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