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  • nt80085
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    PC experts

    Got a Dell PC running Windows 10 which I use for architecture (sole trader), its a pretty good spec and happy with it, just found out Windows wont be supporting security Windows 10 upgrades from next October. Ran the Windows PC health check and my PC isn’t capable of running TPM 2.0 required for W11. Its telling me new PC time, is this really the case? Literally the first I’ve heard about this and a bit surprised they can do this.

    thols2
    Full Member

    It can be bypassed, apparently. Whether support and updates work is another questions though.

    https://www.neowin.net/guides/how-to-install-windows-11-version-23h2-on-unsupported-hardware

    Poopscoop
    Full Member

    Unless things have changed and I don’t think they have, you can do a bit of pretty easy “hacking” of win 11 to get it to run on a non TPM2 machine. Lots of guides on YT etc.

    The issue is, if ever MS move the goal posts, there would put be a lag before the hack is updated.

    z1ppy
    Full Member

    It is a commonly known issue.. Thread from yesterday  mentions it

    I work in schools, where the average age of the PC is around 10 years old… they are kinda panicing about it. Though if you work in IT, I don’t thing ‘we’ really expect MS, to just stop supporting Window 10.

    Mainstream support for Windows 7 ended on January 13, 2015. Extended support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020

    Cougar (1 and 2) post on that thread..

    I don’t have a crystal ball, but I wouldn’t be surprised if MS backpedal on this. They’ve put a massive effort into getting everyone onto a common platform, there is a lot of legacy hardware out there which cannot run W11.

    Also if you less worried about being ‘100% squeeky clean’, there are (or were) software ways to get around the TPM check but MS are cracking down on it.. but someone always happy to find the ‘hack’ in Windows, so give it time and another one will appear.

    nt80085
    Full Member

    Ah didnt see that thread, so may be able to purchase support updates for 3 years which given the cost of my PC is probably the most sensible option. Then buy new PC in 4 years.

    sobriety
    Free Member

    What spec is your PC? I didn’t think mine could but updating the bios and changing a setting enabled it, it could be as simple as that. You may also be able to get a TPM2.0 module chip that plugs into your motherbord, although being a dell they might charge eleventybillionpesos for one, if it exists.

    ampthill
    Full Member

    This is an uninformed opinion

    If earnt my living, sat at a pc, as a sole trader, i would be buying a pc that i was confident would run windows 11 before October.

    Firstly because if it stops working this will be a massive PITA potentially affect my ability to earn

    Secondly because i wouldn’t want to spend more of my life sat at that pc trying to find a work around

    Thirdly the new pc can be bought out of untaxed income

    Hopefully the old pc can find a new life with you or some one else in a non work role

    Cougar2
    Free Member

    You can bypass the TPM check. Whether you should is another matter. I don’t yet know the ramifications of doing so and I doubt most people advising it on the Internet do either.

    Sobriety’s advice is good. Note you’ll have to match an add-on card to the motherboard, there isn’t really a generic option (or wasn’t last I looked).

    Does it need Internet access? If not, airgapping it will solve the issue at a stroke.

    If earnt my living, sat at a pc, as a sole trader, i would be

    … considering what I’d do if it suddenly went bang.

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