I get the feeling steel is out of fashion again, orange didn’t make a P7 this year, and if you look in the classifieds quite a few P7’s for sale (including mine) and no one’s that interested.
I loved my hardtail, steel for me is the best bike ive had, but room at home etc.. means it has to go.
Setting apart the iconic or not, there is minimal difference between a Soul and Breath et al in dimensions and tubing – it is just certain brands that STW seems to go do-lally over.
Well the Soul has an 853 front triangle, not just chro-moly, and thus weighs 0.4lbs less. The Life is closer being 853 up front but still heavier. And the current Soul just seems to have all the little details better thought out – tapered fork compatible, dropper post compatible, no chainstay bridge for more mud clearance, neat dropouts with replaceable mech hanger, oval top tube (stiffer laterally, more compliant vertically), etc. It may ride incredibly similarly but those details count and it’s one reason that the Soul is, in a rather small way, somewhat iconic – there is substance behind the brand value.
I get the feeling steel is out of fashion again, orange didn’t make a P7 this year, and if you look in the classifieds quite a few P7’s for sale (including mine) and no one’s that interested.
It’s a shame you’re forced to sell. But that aside, i’m quite pleased the Steel HT thing is going out of vouge; it means we can be niche again!
Belt drive 29ers with lefty forks and stupid bars are too common these days…
You would have thought that the bike industry would realise that the STW forum could sustain the continued worldwide demand for steel hard tails all on it’s own! 😉
I was quite surprised to see that there isn’t a steel hardtail in the Orange range at the moment. Just butt ugly clown bikes. Here’s mine enjoying a post ride pint…
I’m with binners, had a P7 for a few years now, bought frame second hand, built up as a 1×10 now, taken everything i’ve thrown at it, soaks up the knocks and feels really lively on fast trails. If I had the doh i’d look at a Cotic though, their sweet as
Here’s my P7 yep and i know the cables need sorting, popping into my lbs today to get the brakes bled and cables sorted, its only been a couple of years riding like that, and no those pedals are not the usual normally some stealth candys.
Stripped my old bike yesterday.
Yellow hand job ‘rolling chassis’ currently in the cellar, awaiting further fettling later today.
Slowly, slowly, buildy bikey 🙂
So I’m going for the sanderson breath, I’m just over 6ft, currently ride an 18” voodoo but I feel bolt upright when I ride it. The 18” sanderson’s top tube length is 30mm more than the voodoo, should I stick with 18” or go for the 20? Its a hard one to gauge as once I’ve picked on I’ve got to stick with it!
I am bob on 6′ and ride an 18″ Breath. Tis lovely 99% of the time, only on a couple of really long uphills have I though it is a tad short (and that is with 60mm stem on)
[/quote]How is it suck good condition, have you resprayed it?
Yes. Done by Argos Cycles in Bristol. Braze ons added for the Magura Hydraulics (or full length outers for vee brakes I suppose) and the cable hanger removed from the stem. Frame painted in the closest British Racing Green they had to the OE colour and the forks and stem in champagne gold. Decals by Gil at The Cycle Shed, done to my colour and spec.
I don’t ride it much. It’s for sunny summer rides and pootles only. 🙂 It looks better in the flesh too.
Same here: I’m 6ft1 and ride an 18″ Life and 20″ Soloist.
The Life is perfect and chuckable. I do OK on the soloist but do sometimes feel like I’m manoeuvring a gate.
Speshpaul – thanks. I’ve been meaning to try a hangerbanger again. I had one on a previous Ti frame (snapped). Not sure one would have saved me when I’ve picked sticks though – and I only do it every few years :?.
IIRC activesport.co.uk are one of those bike shops whose online stock control is rather optimistic, and much less reliable than if you phone them up and ask. And even then….