- What is Tommy Robinson (soon to be former EDL leader) up to?
I don’t think he’s up to anything. The view’s he just expressed on Newsnight are pretty consistent with other times I’ve heard him be interviewed. He’s always struck me as quite reasonable (that’s not to say I agree with him, but he’s never struck me as a racist nutter). Unfortunately I suspect a large proportion of EDL have maybe put less thought into their views.Posted 4 years ago
deadlydarcy – Member
Meeting with Quilliam? Leaving the EDL?
he’s on a journey with others from different backgrounds
Should we care what he does?
probably a lot more than we should care what Owen Jones does
he managed to crystallize the views of many and mobilise them on to the streets, his problem was that he attracted people who he says have views he can’t/ won’t be associated with (racists and Nazi’s)Posted 4 years ago2unfit2rideSubscriber
AFAIK he has non white friends & IIRC he set it up to express his views to incorporate Briton as it stood at the time & include all creeds/races as he couldn’t take his non white mates to otherPosted 4 years ago
racistevents, & to defend it from what he saw as a threatening future.
Now I know that statement just made me look like a bigot, but I’m not, I hate all politics & I really don’t care to much for our standpoint in Europe, I would just like a better standard of living & for all the money I have to give to the government to be spent on things other than scroungers, I never signed up to be a humanitarian & I don’t wish to become one.
How do you think he’s managed to attract racists and Nazis ?
extremist people/groups tag on to groups who can provide them an excuse for a fight, a bit like the anti Nazi groups who counter protest the EDL demo, who have groups turning up to their demonstrations to fight the Nazi’s tagged on original demo.
what is your theory?Posted 4 years ago
what is your theory?
Well I haven’t had time to develop a theory yet as you’ve only just mentioned that the EDL attracts racists and Nazis. I hadn’t really thought about it but I guess the EDL must fit in nicely with their views. Otherwise I don’t think racists and Nazis would be attracted to them.Posted 4 years ago
Well I haven’t had time to develop a theory yet as you’ve only just mentioned that the EDL attracts racists and Nazis. I hadn’t really thought about it but I guess the EDL must fit in nicely with their views. Otherwise I don’t think racists and Nazis would be attracted to them.
what’s your theory for the violent groups attracted by “anti” demonstrations?Posted 4 years ago
IanMunro – Member
He’s always struck me as quite reasonable
Searchlight magazine identified the “Tommy Robinson” involved with the EDL as Lennon, and reported that he had served a twelve-month prison sentence for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had intervened to stop a domestic incident between Lennon and his partner Jenna Vowles. He has been convicted for drug offences, and in 2005 for assault.
On 24 August 2010, Robinson was involved in a fight between supporters of Luton Town and Newport County in Luton, on the evening the two clubs played at Kenilworth Road. Lennon reportedly led the group of Luton fans, and played an integral part in starting the 100-man brawl, during which he chanted “EDL till I die”. Eleven months later, in July 2011, he was convicted of having used “threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour” on the night of the incident. He was given a 12-month community rehabilitation order and a three-year ban from attending football matches. He was also sentenced to 150 hours’ unpaid work, and ordered to pay £650 in costs.
On 29 September 2011 he was convicted of common assault after headbutting a fellow EDL member at a rally in Blackburn in April that year.
On 8 November 2011, Robinson held a protest against the ban on wearing a poppy for the England team on the rooftop of the FIFA building in Zurich. He was fined £3000 and jailed for three days.
On 28 November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by false representation in relation to a mortgage application.
On 7 January 2013 Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court to using someone else’s passport—”possession of a false identity document with improper intention”—to travel to the United States in September 2012, and was sentenced to 10 months imprisonment. He was sentenced under the name of Stephen Lennon, but the judge added that he suspected it was not his true name, in the sense that it was not the name on his own passport (not the borrowed one), Paul Harris. Robinson was released on electronic tag on 22 February 2013.Posted 4 years ago
The EDL attracts racists just like the MDL attracts extremists and so on…
About 4 years ago I went to the Preston demonstration with a few lads I used to knock about with. The only trouble that kicked off that day was when a scuffle broke out towards the area they were giving a speech due to Tommy and a fair few others handing a group of about 20 lads over to the police due to them throwing nazi salutes.
Apart from that I didn’t see any violence and racism just a lot of people agreeing with the points Tommy and the others were making, which weren’t racist although I’m prepared for most of you to tell me they are.Posted 4 years ago
The EDL promotes the understanding of Islam and the implications for non-Muslims forced to live alongside it. Islam is not just a religious system, but a political and social ideology that seeks to dominate all non-believers and impose a harsh legal system that rejects democratic accountability and human rights.
So which bit of that isn’t racist?Posted 4 years agogrumMember
I would just like a better standard of living & for all the money I have to give to the government to be spent on things other than scroungers, I never signed up to be a humanitarian & I don’t wish to become one.
Yet again – the proportion of the total benefits bill that goes to ‘scroungers’ is very small (most goes to pensioners and those in work), and unless you earn over about £45,000 a year chances are you are a net beneficiary not a contributor.
And I imagine your standard of living is pretty good – what with living in the 7th richest country in the world and all.
I thought STW was supposed to be full of ‘lefties’ – surprising amount of support for racist football hooligans on here.Posted 4 years ago
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