The Annual Running thread – beginners/ultras/whatever

Brakes:  Sounds like you might be setting yourself an impossible task but respect if you have a crack.  I started running a few years ago after being invited to a 10km fun run at Silverstone and whilst it hurt, thought that it could be a useful addition to my riding/substitute when I cannot ride.  I only ride off-road for the most part, and mostly trails when I can, but I’ve found I can fit a 5km or 10km run over lunch when in the office once or twice a week.  For 5km I average 23mins, and PB at 21’something, but going any faster is highly unlikely.  Even if i knocked off a few kg’s, which I probably should, I wont go under 21 without proper training; sprints, intervals, hill reps etc., as this is a bloody huge leap away from where I am now: put my gear on, put a podcast on and just run out the door!  I run 10km’s quite often now and having done a 13km trail run am thinking a Half XC run might be do’able.

Chapeau Mr S, chapeau!

Brakes I only started recently , when checking my Strava actually properly in May after a couple of injuries from the c25k and jumping to 10k too soon. In May jun and July I ran about 35 miles in each month Aug 65 Sept 70 and Oct 80 ( i dont learn do i too much too soon lol )I’ve just done my first event an off road trail half In 1.40 so on road I could go faster so i reckon its totally possible you sound like you have a better base fitness than me too and your 4 years younger.

I went out trying for a 1.50 pb but I’d only ran 13 miles 4 times at that point so my 5th one was the race and I got the 1.40, I ran faster than I ever thought I could now to run more and beat that 🙂

Good luck

Edit. Hats off Mr sparkle

Brakes, I’ve made the mistake of trying to extrapolate my 5k times to greater distances, a few years ago. Disnae work really!.

Mrsparkles, best of luck sir! 👏🏻

You could get faster or build up distance in that time but not both. Given you biking history, I suspect the latter may be easier than the former. I think it’ll be too much for your body to adapt in that period of time to achieve a 1:30 time. Half Marathon is about 20km so take your time for 10km, double it and add the equivalent of 3 x 1km in time (14-15 mins?). That’s what I’ve read and seems to translate to my times.

Also my pb park run is only 14 seconds per mile faster than I ran the trail half per mile

(Perhaps that means I’m as fast as I can go without proper training or that I can do parkrun faster)

It sounds like you need to put more training in to get where you want to go

like how much time / how many hours a week? I can run to work (min. 10k) a couple of times a week with planning. I normally cycle.

Extrapolating only works if you are pretty fit. If you have a 10k pb of say 40 minutes then a few k later the wheels will probably come off. You cant double it then add a bit. Unless that bit is about 30 minutes 🙂

My 5k pb was only 15:40 my 10k is 32:20 basically double it then add 40 seconds which shows I was strong and should have ran 5k faster 🙁

like how much time / how many hours a week? I can run to work (min. 10k) a couple of times a week with planning. I normally cycle.

How long is a piece of string. Its difficult to know how you will respond to the training until you start doing it. You will probably need 30+ miles per week which is low in running terms and although you will probably have good cycling fitness, running training has to be specific.

Thanks for your comments.

I’ve had a quick look at training plans and they seem to be short periods of 10-12 weeks. Perhaps I need to do a training block ahead of a half marathon in January and see where I’m at then. If I fail trying then so be it, but at least I tried.

I have a good base fitness, but I have no idea how cycling fitness will translate into running > big legs might be a hindrance.

Seems like a good strategy. I found/still find it hard work going for a run compared to getting on the bike. Running has definitely helped with sustaining a good pace riding longer climbs (definitely fitter cardio-wise) but it just seems to dull the legs a little for shorter, power climbs and sprints.  Hopefully, once your muscles, ligaments and tendons get conditioned to more running mileage, you’ll see tangible gains quite quickly.

I ran every day in October last year – absolutely loved it! The 31st October felt amazing.

Not doing it this year – I’m running further now and I think I need the recovery in between.

Any hints from the experienced runners as to how long a nasty ankle sprain might take to heal?  Rolled the right ankle at parkrun sat before last.  Its feeling a lot better now and have been taking it very easy but wondering if a steady 5km on sat would be really dumb?

Really stupid, from somebody stupid enough to have been restrained from trying to walk off a dislocated knee. Brisk walk is your lot just now, give that a couple of days after and then MAYBE a gentle walk run if there are no, and I mean no, after effects. Ankles are buggers, about as load bearing a part of your body as there is.

Sports massage last night, hot yoga tonight, the old stiff body is easing! Anyone tried HY? It’s flipping brill!

I’ve decided to get “back into” running. The last few years I’ve done cycling and nothing else. Apparently it would benefit me (and my tight hamstrings) to do a variety of exercise, or so says the osteopath I saw recently. Going back around 5 years or so I was fairly fit, did tbe occadional 10k and half etc..

I’ve just been for a “steady” 2.5 mile run, clocked 9 minute/mile pace (I was thinking it’d be 10 min/mile so fairly pleased with that), first run in months and months and actually felt ok and could have gone further at that pace. But when I stopped back at the car I could feel my legs trying to cramp up.  I did some stretches and managed to avoid any real cramp thankfully. Think my legs will need some readjusting to running!

Hoping to run a couple of times a week to complement my cycling. If nothing else I feel like I generally work consistently harder on a run than on a ride. Think I’ll leave it a week before my next run and build up slowly, but it definately felt good to be back out for a run.

For the ankle – I’d say ok to run if it feels ok and you are confident of not doing it again. I did something involving an audible crack sound and a red swollen line up the outside of my calf in a fell race (had to drop out) and was jogging easily on roads a week later. It wasn’t strong and stable for a while longer though.

Did hot yoga and really enjoyed it.  Unfortunately I couldnt warrant the outlay for attendance with any regularity so it’s sat on the “I’d like to do that again someday” list.

Aye, it’s expensive. We have a large group of guys that block book it, they give us it for 7 quid a head instead of the usual 15, only once a week though, could happily do it more.

Another relative newby to running! I only used to run if there was no other exercise on offer, but I’ve really started to get into my trail running over the last few months. An offroad buggy means I can combine running with looking after a 10 month old and often headed out around Poynton and Lyme Park early on a weekend morning during the summer. Done a few 16-18k runs (including some decent lengths in the Lakes with c.1000m of climbing) and never imagined I’d be able to run those distances, never mind enjoy it!

I’m not fast (5k PB last night of 23mins and that felt pretty hard) but I am enjoying it more than I imagined. Signed up for the Percy Pud in Sheffield in December with a bunch of mates and then goal for 2019 is to run each of the legs of the Bob Graham at some point (i.e. spread out over the year not back to back!).

Gotta love a bit of progression!  I started running back in August and did my first flat out 5k shortly after which I did in 23:54.

I did another flat out 5k yesterday and eeked out a 20:51.

Gotta say that my legs are sore today from it!  Slow off road is more enjoyable for me though so I’ll probably concentrate my efforts there.

Although a sub 20 5k would be quite satisfying!

Well I forgot my parkrun barcode ……

So this morning I got up and ran the meall a buchallie circuit in the snow from about 400m up. Ultra poor vis up top. Glad I know it well as you couldn’t see the path down the other side in the snow.

Defiantly on the edge of my comfort zone given what I was carrying

12km in 1hr 17mins. My last km was as quick as my first which for me is a big deal as historically I go too fast and taper off to crawling.

Then went for a dip in morlich in the snow….. My feet have not recovered.

I know there are a few Scots on here, if anybody is going to the illuminator in Aboyne, it has snowed. I did a 10k close by last week in a vest.

Well, my legs are less sore today. 2.5mile run on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday was agony waking down stairs etc.  , quads were in bits!     Steady ride on the bike today to loosen off I think, then another run on Monday.    Hopefully the legs will begin to get accustomed to running sometime soon!

Smug post. Just done a lovely 5k along the Cretan coast, blue skies, sea breeze and good pace too. Now sat by the pool cooling off. One of my real pleasures is a holiday run and that was every bit as good as I hoped.

Jedburgh half tomorrow, looking forward to  nice sunny autumn run with the good lady. An extra hour in bed too, bliss. 😊

My miles and mile of plodding seems to be working for me. I manged 18.50 on Pomphrey hill parkrun on Sat and then about 13k later (after a 20 minute break)  during an increasing pace run I managed my fastest ever 1/2k 1k and 1 mile.

Some of the stories n here are really motivational. Very impressive.

I have started hills on Tue morning before work  in North  Bristol if anyone fancies keeping me company?

Excellent, very good time sir, well done you.

Jedburgh half was pretty grim, first 4 miles was lovely, then ran into a black sky that was only missing Sauron’s eye. Hail and a torrent for the rest of the run, so cold I couldn’t even feel the packet of shot bloks in my pocket at mile eleven, fingers like frozen sausages!.

Mrs Nobeer was awesome though, despite having what looks like a chest infection, she managed to PB by almost a minute, a proper little battleship indeed!.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpfRlUyAB7M/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Roight, after much humming and hawing I’ve decided to have a crack at a winter Ramsay’s Round.

I’m telling you this because I know there will be a few who are interested but also because telling some random folk on the net makes it feel a bit more real as an objective!

Awesome Spin, keep is posted. Ideally, I’d love to run a leg with someone, in the real world, I’m not sure I’d be quick enough to do it! 😁

This thread continues to be awesome btw! Some great stories from all abilities. ❤ it.

Anyone know who makes ladies running winter weight 7/8 tights in xs/8…? Petite mrs_oab needs warmer legs when she’s running this winter.

My wife 🙂 Not a lot of use to you, sorry. I’m about to get a set of long lycra to scare the local sheep with though.

Anyone know who makes ladies running winter weight 7/8 tights in xs/8…? Petite mrs_oab needs warmer legs when she’s running this winter.

My wife likes these, though she finds them too warm most of the year. She reckons the Decathlon tights fit really well so if they’re not right then look at the rest of the range.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/kiprun-womens-warm-tights-id_8503923.html

Are they 7/8 length? Mrs_oab is proper short of leg…

Awesome Spin, keep is posted

Cheers. It’ll be very much conditions dependent and even in good conditions far from a dead cert but that’s what makes it interesting. Looking at mid/late January to the end of February as my window to give plenty of chances for a decent weekend. It’s only been done 4 times in under 24 hours but it suits my skill set so it’s worth a bash I think.

Jumping back a bit to Brakes post – if you follow slowpuncheur’s time extrapolation of 2 x 10km + 3 x 1km to get your half marathon time… Then mine should be 2 x 41:09 + 3 x 3:52, which is 1:34:54; whereas my ACTUAL half marathon PB is 1:34:14 – an entire 40 seconds different – not even close 😉  !!

So realistically, you probably need to be able to run a sub 40 10km to run a sub 90 half, which is normally roughly equivalent to a 19 minute 5k…

But… That said… Some people overachieve at one end of the distance scale – for instance, my friend Dom can run 5km in 19:00, but his half PB is 1:35:00 – so you never know – you could be the other way around. But it’s a big ask, as it’s 13.1 miles at 6:51 pace which isn’t hanging about (and would put you in the top 1500 fastest half marathon runners in your age group in the UK on RunBritain Rankings).

I’m going for sub 90 next year too; but I’m planning to run 5 days a week – a tempo (or a race), a hill session, an interval session, a long slow run and a recovery run…

That said , I know a fella who pulled a 3:00 marathon in Brighton on 30 miles a week – which shouldn’t be possible, so good luck and chapeau!

Update. Tonight I managed to compete Run Every Day in October. My first recovery achievement done.

Fantastic Sparkles! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

A WINTER Ramsey round? Nurse! The screens!