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  • dissonance
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    You do know she’s not the Prime Minister, right?

    There has been a tendency in recent years for it to be understood as when the prime minister gets to ask the questions.

    fenderextender
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    I couldn’t give a tinker’s cuss which of these two plonkers won. Badenoch, a woman who combines Liz Truss’s chippy-shouldered belligerence with an unwavering focus on culture war ‘style’ over substance. The Tories are an irrelevance now, and Badenoch will not be leader at the next GE – unless they’ve merged with Farage’s rabble.

    Now, what to have next beer-wise?

    binners
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    The Tories are an irrelevance now

    Indeed. Kemi doesn’t come across as someone who’s going to take kindly to being irrelevant. I expect she’ll try and direct attention towards herself (Me! Me! Me!) by saying lots of very controversial ‘culture war’ things very loudly and obnoxiously.

    The membership will love it, but I expect the more that ‘normal’ people see of that, the less they’ll like her. She might drag a few Reform voters back into the fold, but she’ll drive far more into the arms of the Lib Dems

    I don’t think for a millisecond that she’ll be the Tory leader going into the next general election

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    fenderextender
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    By the way. Why did Mrs Jenrick turn up in fancy dress? Or is she off to rehearsals for her panto stint at Pontins as Widow Twankey?

    I bet Honest Bob was shitting himself about going home after losing today.

    “Robert. You are bloody USELESS!”

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    Northwind
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    binners
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    I don’t think for a millisecond that she’ll be the Tory leader going into the next general election

    we’ll know the moment the tories have a chance of winning an election, they’ll have another leadership battle but this time everyone won’t be a lunatic or a nonentity. This one was just for fun.

    downshep
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    There’ll barely be a fag paper between Tory and Reform policies, nicely splitting the RW vote. Worst case scenario is that they come to their senses prior to the next GE and send up the Rory batsignal to restore one nation conservatism.

    TiRed
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    I don’t think for a millisecond that she’ll be the Tory leader going into the next general election

    That would be the six-leaders-in-eight-years Tory party. If she manages two years she will have bucked the trend. I can’t see her leading into the next election. More likely they’ll want to pivot to be more Reformy still.

    binners
    Full Member

    ‘One nation’ conservatism was mortally wounded by Brexit then put out of its misery with Johnson’s purges.

    Badanoch was right about her representing ‘the soul of the party’. They’re now just a crap Farage/Reform tribute act. They’ll compete with them for the racist nutter vote while hemorrhaging votes to the lib Dems as they become ever more extreme.

    The stuff Kemi is on about is completely mental to most voters. 6 day working weeks? Cutting maternity pay?

    dissonance
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    That would be the six-leaders-in-eight-years Tory party. If she manages two years she will have bucked the trend

    Tricky. Some elections next year but not enough to be really obvious. Its in 2026 where there will be a good test. I reckon she will make it though on the grounds Starmer is rather unlikely to be challenged but I doubt will want to do the election early (obviously major terms and conditions here but if it continues as is it will be insanely risky) so they will want to switch about 2 years before.

    That said I got Sunaks early election wrong but in my defence as the outcome showed it was a bloody stupid move.

    More likely they’ll want to pivot to be more Reformy still.

    Which I am not sure wont be a bad move. If they can mostly retain the current (who do seem quite sticky) and get back the reform lot then it will be rather close.

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