Tarot readers / psychics – load of old cobblers?

igrf

Very funny re me 😀
Only 1 out of 4 though

it basically knew the day we were returning every time.

Its a good counter then

Even today, my current dog(s), know the moment I leave the office.

You work from home and it is sat outside your door?

I don’t/didn’t think this trait was even in dispute, that animals have another sense is a given.

Well they do seem so bright when you compare them to us 😕

Humans being psychic is silly but animals is just making me chuckle – I would like to see the grant application for that research

GrahamS – unfortunately, amongst some other stuff, the stand out prediction was that my best mate would die suddenly in the near future.

Mmm… that’s less fun than my predictions. Sorry. 🙁

Questions: why did she tell you rather than your best mate? How specific was she? Was it “something bad will happen to someone you know” or much more specific?

I did not say any of this is ‘supernatural’…

Being able to predict the future is by any definition “supernatural”.

There is a shit load of research on the subject of ESP, go google, look for yourself.

You mean like this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20145664

To my mind it is a person of limited experience that is more likely to simply debunk the existence of ‘other senses’, better to my mind to accept it and attempt to understand why

What you mean like my sense of balance? There’s another sense for you. To my mind it is the mark of an idiot that accepts everything without question.

But I’d love someone to explain to me for instance why certain character traits are exhibited by folk born at periodic times of the year and forms the basis of Astrology another bullshit source of magic dusters. Yet an extraordinary number of Arians turn up as facist dictators and Librans their polar opposites equally in leading roles in society and Gemini’s in Advertising and Sagitarians in Graphic design and the arts, why is that?

Hmmm tricky one that, not sure if it has been mentioned but I think that that might just be an example of confirmation bias.

Don’t you find any of it a tad fascinating?

Nope, tiresome nonsense if I’m honest.

I’d like to believe that some folk do have a “gift”.

However first words from the one i saw, “i’ve done a reading for your sister”
“i don’t have a sister”
“are you sure?”
“are you questioning my mother?”

awkard moment.

Junkyard, in a similar vein, you missed yesterdays adventure with a chiropractor in Edinburgh..

gonefishin – Member
In any case none of the supports any of your previous claims that you can predict the future.

I don’t recall saying I could predict the future, other than you might be in for a long and argumentative thread.

I dont think many of us get to 30 without loosing a mate tbh – also you tend to remember what they say that was accurate not inaccurate
Sorry for your loss

FWIW my mum used to drag me to these as a child and it is hilarious to give them all the wrong cues to information and them watch as they start “reading ” you wrong

For example I used to pretend to be gay or other falsehood – off to join the army or similiar and no one ever corrected me. try it yourself go to one nod and encourage when they are wrong and look confused and disbelieving when they are right and see what happens and where the predictions go

I’d like to believe that some folk do have a “gift”.

Why?

You know igrf you had me going for a while

But then you came out with this:

But I’d love someone to explain to me for instance why certain character traits are exhibited by folk born at periodic times of the year and forms the basis of Astrology another bullshit source of magic dusters. Yet an extraordinary number of Arians turn up as facist dictators and Librans their polar opposites equally in leading roles in society and Gemini’s in Advertising and Sagitarians in Graphic design and the arts, why is that? Gravitational alignment effecting cell strucure? Does it work opposite for folk born in the Southern hemisphere, I wonder if anyone has even checked.

Now I know you are taking the p and are just having a laugh

all sorts of what I believe to be bollox when ‘palm reading’ young ladies, which has been to correct to be co-incidence far too often to the point I really don’t want to do it.

There you go.

My mum goes to card readings, and she’s a catholic LOL. Double dose

I’d like to believe that some folk do have a “gift”.

There’s no need to be coy; I’m a fantastic lover

I bet she tells your mum that you’ll meet a tall dark handsome stranger a lot emsz?

gonefishin – Member
Nope, tiresome nonsense if I’m honest.

Then one questions why you are even wasting keystrokes on the subject.

I on the other hand do find it fascinating and have done this past fifty years, ever since my Gran went really pale reading the tea leaves one day whilst I was a kid and my Grandad died the next day, unexpectedly.

We all have our personal experiences that form our beliefs, that is all one can ever take from a discussion like this and the sure knowledge that if you do seriously attempt to promote what I’ve been alluding to here, folk assume you’re a nutter, in my case not that far from the truth. 😉

the question is, do things that mediums tell you become true or do you start living your life aiming for what the medium told you?

Well, the Kaiser Chiefs were spot on about that riot.
Explain THAT & stay fashionable.

richmtb – Member
You know igrf you had me going for a while

But then you came out with this:

But I’d love someone to explain to me for instance why certain character traits are exhibited by folk born at periodic times of the year and forms the basis of Astrology another bullshit source of magic dusters. Yet an extraordinary number of Arians turn up as facist dictators and Librans their polar opposites equally in leading roles in society and Gemini’s in Advertising and Sagitarians in Graphic design and the arts, why is that? Gravitational alignment effecting cell strucure? Does it work opposite for folk born in the Southern hemisphere, I wonder if anyone has even checked.
Now I know you are taking the p and are just having a laugh

Ha if you knew me for real, it’s worse than that, there are certain folk back in the day I wouldn’t employ unless they are certain Astrological star signs, I’m that convinced of the veracity of it.

I know it’s true, what I don’t know is why.

Crikey,

Something like that I suspect. LOL

an extraordinary number of Arians turn up as facist dictators …

Hmmm… a bit googling.. list of nasty dictator types..

Adolf Hitler, 20 April 1889: Aries (possibly)*
Benito Mussolini, 29 July 1883: Leo
António de Oliveira Salazar 28 April 1889: Taurus
Francisco Franco, 4 December 1892: Sagittarius
Ion Antonescu, June 15, 1882: Gemini
Ante Pavelic, 14 July 1889: Cancer
Slobodan Milosevic: 20 August 1941: Leo

*(based on 2011 Tropical Zodiac, can’t be arsed to check the exact dates for each sign on the birth year – I think my point is made!)

I’m perfectly happy to believe that some people have more Derren Brown in them than others, and that animals can sense things that people can’t, and that people are often more easily manipulated than they might like to think. Take those things, add in some confirmation bias and selective memory, and away you go- no need for any supernatural explanations.

That BBC article someone else linked to earlier has some good quotes from the ‘psychics’ who turned out not to be psychic at all though, nicely demonstrating the a$$-backwards view some people have of proof.

Well GrahamS look on the bright side – if igrf was hiring a fascist dictator then Mussolini, Franco, Mioseciv & co would never have made the short list.

Ha if you knew me for real, it’s worse than that, there are certain folk back in the day I wouldn’t employ unless they are certain Astrological star signs, I’m that convinced of the veracity of it.

I know it’s true, what I don’t know is why.

There are 7 billion people in the world so over 500 million for each sign of the Zodiac. Out of those 500 million people you could select for absolutely any trait you wanted and get hundreds of thousands -if not millions – of people that would confirm the trait you chosen for them.

But then I’m a Taurus so I would say that!

an extraordinary number of Arians turn up as facist dictators …

Should that not be Aryans!

rich – I predict you’ll be getting your coat!

the question is, do things that mediums tell you become true or do you start living your life aiming for what the medium told you?

Schrödinger’s cat?

Your future can be anything at all until a medium opens the box and tells you what it is. That would be a pretty damn good reason to avoid all this if you ask me 😀

I think my point is made!)

[ puts up[ hand earnestly going pleass Sir pick me]Is it that we need Kaesae to lead the research as the data is confused?

What about my people in Syria and Assad ?
😯

His Birthday is the 11 th Spetember – just syaing like but I so wan to make 5 or perhaps even 7 with that

GrahamS – Member
an extraordinary number of Arians turn up as facist dictators …
Hmmm… a bit googling.. list of nasty dictator types..
– I think my point is made!)

Yes, mine rather badly put, it should have been warlord types rather than facist. Was thinking more along the lines of Napolean, Hitler, even the bloody prophet Mohammed and at the other end of the scale the Librans, Thatcher, Putin and I honestly can’t remember them all.

You think that Putin the opposite of a Fascist dictator? Now you’ve really lost the plot.

According to Wiki Napoleon was a Leo.

Napoleon Hitler and Muhammed are now all the same due to their birthdate

Well I for one can barely tell them apart by looking at their actions or their written books.

Of course Thatcher and Putin are at the opposite end to this trio as , after all, they are alive
Anyway can we get back on to the important issue Physic dogs – which star sign is best

Yes, mine rather badly put, it should have been warlord types rather than facist. Was thinking more along the lines of Napolean, Hitler, even the bloody prophet Mohammed…

“This way lads, left a bit…”

Napolean was born in 15 August 1769 which makes him Leo or maybe Cancer.

I don’t think the birth date of Muhammad is known. Sunni Muslims observe His birthday on the 12th day of the Islamic month of Rabi’ al-awwal, while Shi’a Muslims mark it on the 17th.

Physic dogs – which star sign is best

everyone knows dog years are different to human ones. i fear you are barking up the wrong tree.

The only reason I’m scathing about this stuff is that I am actually a genuine Medium.

It says so on my pants.

Ha if you knew me for real, it’s worse than that, there are certain folk back in the day I wouldn’t employ unless they are certain Astrological star signs, I’m that convinced of the veracity of it.

You’ve got to be trolling. Please?

everyone knows dog years are different to human ones. i fear you are barking up the wrong tree

Who are you who is so wise in the ways of science

What about Chineses ones ? Surely a dog born in the year of the dog must haver a head start?

Is the dogs name Cerberus?

😀

All Geminis that I know are two-faced bastards.